arstechnica.com review of X360 steering wheel vs DFP

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the review article is entirely about the XBox 360 Wireless Steering Wheel but it is quite an interesting read as the reviewer quoted some comparisons between the wireless wheel vs DFP vs G25.

The Wireless Racing Wheel's appearance isn't too bad. The color scheme matches other Xbox 360 peripherals (unless you have an Elite), and the flat bottom is reminiscent of recent Audi steering wheels. Gear changes are handled by a pair of flappy paddles that are set back from the wheel but rotate with it. Their action is good, and it's a better solution than the buttons behind the wheel spokes on the DFP. It lacks the DFP's gear stick though, and fans of the Logitech G25, with its H-pattern shift, might also be disappointed. Fans of both those wheels will also lament the 270˚ range of motion. Logitech's wheels offer 900˚, which is two and half turns lock-to-lock.

I've found that 900˚ on the DFP can be more of a hindrance than a help. The motor that drives the force feedback slows down the wheel to the point where countersteering to cope with oversteer (that's when the car is loose, for you NASCAR fans) takes too long, and I end up in the barriers. ....


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At least I'm convinced that the person writing the article knows his stuffs :)
 
well don't be mistaken as my focus here is not the M$ wheel but more on what the reviewer was mentioning about the DFP and G25
 
I think if he were a decent reviewer he'd know enough to not waste time reviewing something everyone know's about or doesn't care about. lol

All the reviews I've seen don't even mention anything Logitech (except for the 360 version) or if they do it's just a name drop.
 
well don't be mistaken as my focus here is not the M$ wheel but more on what the reviewer was mentioning about the DFP and G25

Well, I wouldn't take too much notice what he says about the G25, since by his own admission, he has not used it.:dunce:
If he had, I am sure he would have found it far superior.:sly:

As for the comment that the 900 degrees is more hinderance than help:
That's just like saying using manual gear changes is more hinderance than help when compared to using auto transmission.:dunce:

The great majority of the reviewer's criticisms regarding the DFP are void if comparing to G25, like the pedals gripping the carpet (G25 does this already), or the force feedback motor (G25 has two very fast, strong and quiet simulation grade motors). :sly:

Other points he makes are just dumb:
I mean, seriously, is it that hard to plug in a controller? I can't see myself sitting so far from my TV screen (no matter what size) that the cable is too short.:crazy:

About the only thing I would credit him for is the need for mounting the DFP/ G25 on something, which can be a bit of a hinderance. However, given the number of creative solutions shown on other threads, it seems to also inspire a lot of creativity. 💡

It's not so much a comparison, as an apologetic review of the sad little wheel Microsoft came up with for the 360. Still, it would be an improvement on the controller I guess.:indiff:
 
Plus, there is still no agreement for XBox users to be able to use Logitech wheels.
It didn't happen for FM2, so it's not as if they have a choice.

Cheers,

MasterGT
 
I really dont think he knows his stuff when he said that 900 degrees rotation is a hindrance, its a marketing/misinformation ploy for people to accept the 270 degrees the xbox wheel only has. It takes him too long to countersteer in nascar?! wow! he is a super noob. Maybe he is countersteering nascar like its a drifter car. The G25 and DFP may have 900 degrees rotation but you rarely use it unless you are racing rally or drifting. On races like nascar, F1, and GT only small movements are needed. Hands are on 9 and 3 o'clock and you wouldn't even hand shuffle. Maybe he knows how to write an article but he doesnt know what he is talking about.
 
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