Assassin's Creed Revelations

[Recon]

I searched and nothing came up, but this game deserves acknowledgement. And this post is for people that played the earlier AC's




Assassins Creed Revelations is the fourth major game in the series as it attempts to wrap the story of Altair Ibn-La'Ahad and Ezio Auditore. It takes place in Constantinople as Ezio goes on a personal quest to retreive the keys that unlock a secret library under Masyaf containing the knowledge left behind by Altair. And Desmond's story picks up inside the Animus while he tries to pick up the pieces of his shattered mind. The multiplayer gets revamped for the better.

Comments and opinions here.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I'm not done Brotherhood yet, so I'll probably get it for Christmas. Also, since they've said that this will be the last game in the Renaissance, what will they do next? Will they go pre 1000 AD, or go post 1500 AD?

 

[Recon]

I'm not done Brotherhood yet, so I'll probably get it for Christmas. Also, since they've said that this will be the last game in the Renaissance, what will they do next? Will they go pre 1000 AD, or go post 1500 AD?

I don't mean to spoil it , but I could be wrong,

Edit: Deleted the Spoiler

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I don't want to get any of the story spoiled, so I'll wait.

 

[Famine]

I was thinking of starting this thread myself

I finished it yesterday, then mopped up the 100% Synch, then the guild challenges and single player trophies. Took about 30 hours all in. Killing online too

I'll stick up a few spoilers at this point, but I'll say that you do get to play as Desmond in the Animus Safe Mode (or "Black Room"), as Altair during the late 12th and early 13th Centuries but the majority of the game follows Ezio around Ottoman Constantinople (not Istanbul ) around the reign of Bayezid/Selim...

Spoiler

Desmond's story arc follows him from being placed into the Animus in a coma by his father following the events of Brotherhood. His mind is being preserved by the Animus Safe Mode and he plays five bizarre quasi-platform levels navigating the inner workings of the Animus.

Ezio's follows him searching for Altair's clues for the second Apple of Eden (Ezio having recovered another from St. Peter's in Brotherhood) twenty years after Brotherhood. His journey takes him to Masyaf - location of Altair's secret library - where he's ambushed by Templars who intend to hang him... which doesn't work out well for them. He pushes on to Konstantiyye where he meets a Turkish Assassin's Guild, Prince Suleiman and an Italian woman named Sofia Sartor who is... significant to him. She helps him to recover the five Masyaf Keys left in the city by Altair as chronicled by Niccolo and Marco Polo, students of Altair, to unlock the Masyaf library.

Altair has six missions, following his studentship under Mualim, the aftermath of his victory over his teacher and the schism in the Order caused by the Apple - including the execution of his younger son by the latter head of the Order, the death of his wife and his return in his 80s to overthrow the head and reclaim the order.

Extreme spoiler:

Spoiler

The whole story knits together when Ezio unlocks the library with the five Masyaf keys and discovers the library empty, save for the seated skeleton of Altair holding the sixth Masyaf key with his last memories and the location of the Apple. Ezio leaves the Apple where it is and speaks directly to Desmond - recalling Juno addressing Desmond in the crypt in Assassin's Creed 2. A second member of the First Civilisation - Jupiter - addresses them both and tells them of their duties and fates. Desmond awakens from his coma in the Animus with Ezio's Apple (it's what caused the coma and the killing of Lucy in Brotherhood) alongside him at a location in upstate New York and says "I know what I have to do!".

So, anyway, this is Ezio's last hurrah in AC - though I'm sure he'll show up in one-off levels or memories in future games, much as Altair did in AC2 (and indeed Revelations). And I'm sure Altair will also, though Ezio is in his forties during ACR and Altair reaches... well his 80s and his skeleton (one level is effectively Altair's tomb - but, you know, he lived 300 years before Ezio and the Apple doesn't grant immortality. We already knew he was long dead).

I don't think the game is overall quite as good as Brotherhood was, but it's not that far off. Ezio's new hookblade is... meh. It's like a climb-leap glove that also allows him to travel ziplines and occasionally hurdle standing enemies (or chuck them a distance). Eagle vision has been tweaked so you can see where guards patrol and wait, and also so that you can follow mission targets. Zipline assassinations are good fun and all the other moves are still present from Brotherhood.

Online seems a bit nicer - I liked the online mode in Brotherhood as it's effectively ungriefable and nicely worked in despite not really being anything to do with the main story - but it still has its wrong-target foibles. Offline still has its occasional wrong-jump-fool foibles too, but I doubt that's ever going to be fixable.

Absolutely worth the money. Twice. Anyone for online?

 

[Recon]

I'm surprised nobody started this thread before. I rushed through the story as fast as possible and usually only tried for the 100% sync on a mission if it didn't take extra time and after that I never went for the whole 100% because I only play AC for the story but tried the multiplayer and its pretty fun 👍

Side question: Did you get the Signature Edition and see some the Vlad the Impaler sword kills?

 

[Famine]

I didn't - it was an anniversary gift.

The various special editions look a bit... odd. There's way too many of them and there's no definitive version that contains all the bonuses. I'm not convinced that they're worth it either. I might try and pick one up earlier next year - the series is my favourite game series by some margin - and I'm tempted to go back and get the Da Vinci Disappearance DLC for Brotherhood (that generates the co-ordinates for the vault at the end of Revelations).

Given the ending of Revelations, I'm not sure what format AC3 will even take. All of the trips through the Animus have lead the Assassins to Ezio's Apple and the vault in the "present day" (which it will be soon - the date of the apocalypse from AC2 was 21/12/2012) and Desmond's interactions with the First Civilisation ancestors seem to be the focus now - I'm not sure what the story would have to gain by any more Animusing. Unless they turn the story so that what Desmond thinks is the real world is a simulation inside the first Animus and he's still at Abstergo, which would be weak...


Incidentally, did you know that Masyaf, al-Mualim and indeed the Assassin order under al-Mualim at Masyaf were all real? And that the Creed itself - Nothing is true, everything is permitted - was actually the Creed for the order?

Not much else is historically accurate, mind (though the Polos did indeed chronicle it), save for names and approximate times of life and death of many of the assassins' allies and enemies.

 

[Recon]

Well I took a look at the other editions and there isn't a lot your missing out on. For AC3 almost all of the clues are pointing towards New York, and pretty much the only time New York was Excitible was in the 17th century during the American Revolution. How Ubisoft plan on executing this I have no idea. There are a lot of loose ends that need to be tied up and they've already announced a new character. I think it would be better if this protagonist wouldn't be introduced but oh well.

And about the real Assassin Order, I've never really thought into it. At the end of the first AC after I saw the Apple of Eden I thought that the whole thing was bologna but I guess shouldn't have dismissed the whole thing

 

[Famine]

Even so, Desmond's reached the vault in upstate New York, has an Apple and knows what he has to do...

If they're going to meet their deadline of 21/12/2012, they can maybe get two games out and they have to take place in "the present day" between Desmond waking up in the portable Animus and him doing what he knows he has to do.

About the only thing I can think of that remains is finding out where the other vaults are (Altair's map in the Codex of AC2 did that when viewed with Ezio's Eagle Vision... so perhaps other ancestors 'twixt Ezio and 16 have to find them - there's seven, so it'll be a massive pair of games considering it's taken four games to find the first! Incidentally, it's a little odd that the two Vaults under Rome - where Ezio first encounters a First Civilisation member [Minerva] who talks to Desmond and where Desmond encounters Juno - aren't marked on that map) and where the other Pieces of Eden are (err... also on the map!)


Now... I don't imagine that they have to move forward in time for the various regional ancestors who may have discovered clues to their vaults or pieces, but they probably will (I recall something about Ezio being the furthest back, strongest memory besides Altair for Desmond... or something, possibly something to do with handling pieces of Eden). Since we're probably moving forwards in time and Desmond lives in North America (and, furthermore, he can only remember direct descendants), North America is most likely. From the various Animus puzzles from AC2 depicting historical figures, I'd agree that the most likely time period will be Revolutionary War era United States - previous non-Templar holders of an Apple include Nikola Tesla and George Washington and Washington DC is one of the North American locations for a piece of Eden...

 

[Recon]

Maybe they'll come out with a game that has every descendant getting their Piece of Eden and their backstory, or maybe DLC with everyone's story in it. And soon after they let out Desmond's story: AC3. Another possibility is maybe the Templars already have every piece gathered except the one in the US. Not very creative but it has to be done one way or another.

But this all of this contradicts the new, primary, protagonist thats going to be introduced. This new character oughta be pretty boring, for the sake of Desmond.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I'll be getting it soon, it's also a nice touch how they include the original game with it. (I just got into Creed)

 

[Famine]

Maybe they'll come out with a game that has every descendant getting their Piece of Eden and their backstory

The problem is that Desmond can only recall (through the McGuffin of genetic memory) direct ancestors that have touched pieces of Eden. We have about 470 years to get from Ezio - last seen in Altair's library in Masyaf - through a chain of assassin descendants to Desmond Miles from upstate New York. There's 40-odd (I recall it was 20-odd in AC1) pieces of Eden and 7 Vaults (excluding the two in Rome) and it wouldn't make that much sense for Abstergo to be focussing on Desmond and 16 when there are other assassins in possession of 6 of the vaults and the remaining pieces that Abstergo haven't already got their hands on or haven't been destroyed (or both). If we're saying that the next ancestor is from 1870s US, that brings it down to just 300 years between Ezio and them - and it suggests that Desmond's ancestors have been on the North American continent since then. That's not a lot of time to gather the pieces and find the vaults (in Australia and Norway!) in a world without rapid travel...

(it's worth noting that it has been suggested that Altair is an ancestor of Ezio [the Eagle Vision links them], but they could easily both be Desmond's ancestors and otherwise unrelated. We're just assuming that Altair's unique Eagle Vision is passed only to his own descendants)

Another possibility is maybe the Templars already have every piece gathered except the one in the US. Not very creative but it has to be done one way or another.

It's suggested that the Templars had the Masyaf apple and destroyed it in Denver (I'm very confused over the two apples Ezio has contacted... one he found in the Vatican and one he found in Altair's library in Masyaf, but I don't recall how the Vatican one ended up there nor which is the Masyaf apple that Abstergo retrieved and the Rome apple that Desmond now possesses) and have had possession of others destroyed in satellite experiments - Tunguska is blamed on one. It would seem incongruous that Desmond has all the answers with one apple and Abstergo are grasping with the other 40-odd pieces.

But this all of this contradicts the new, primary, protagonist thats going to be introduced. This new character oughta be pretty boring, for the sake of Desmond.

I suspect it means the assassin. Probably. AC1 was Altair and AC2/Bro/Rev was the Ezio trilogy.

I suppose when you have one primary character living the life of another (and spending way more time doing so) it gets a might blurry


Either way, AC1 was just a good game. AC2 was awesome. ACB was probably the best game I own and ACR nearly as much. AC3 should be mind-blowing.

Don't know what they'll do after Desmond saves the planet from a catastrophic coronal mass ejection though.

 

[Recon]

@ParkourVeyron
I liked the idea, but I already downloaded the first AC from PSN. At least now I can delete it and get a buttload of my hard drive back

@Famine
How about a scenario where all of the Pieces of Eden were already gathered and stored in the vaults (by whoever). Desmond uses the Revolutionary Assassin to learn how to get into the vaults. After that he no longer needs to relive anyone anymore, Animus useless. He later travels to the other vaults and gets in by gathering keys nearby or whatever. After he has all the pieces he returns to New York and something big happens.

There are a few massive problems with this sketch, like whoever put the pieces in the vaults, and where abstergo comes in.

Assassin's Creed was always meant to be a trilogy,(read that somewhere as well) and when its discontinued I'll play each one 100 times over.

 

[Cowboys965]

Thinking about picking this game up, probably will. I played AC Brotherhood, was my first AC game though, so was a little fuzzy on the story though, but still it was great.
Is it a sequel to AC Brotherhood?

 

[Recon]

Thinking about picking this game up, probably will. I played AC Brotherhood, was my first AC game though, so was a little fuzzy on the story though, but still it was great.
Is it a sequel to AC Brotherhood?

Yeah, and you might want to check out the other 2 as well, each game in the series is spectacular

 

[Famine]

@Famine
How about a scenario where all of the Pieces of Eden were already gathered and stored in the vaults (by whoever). Desmond uses the Revolutionary Assassin to learn how to get into the vaults. After that he no longer needs to relive anyone anymore, Animus useless. He later travels to the other vaults and gets in by gathering keys nearby or whatever. After he has all the pieces he returns to New York and something big happens.

There are a few massive problems with this sketch, like whoever put the pieces in the vaults, and where abstergo comes in.

Assassin's Creed was always meant to be a trilogy,(read that somewhere as well) and when its discontinued I'll play each one 100 times over.

The Ezio trilogy was always going to be a trilogy, but Ubisoft have remarked that they could make 30+ AC games - they've got 900 years between Altair and Desmond and 40 pieces of Eden to find. They could even tell the First Civilisation's story (though without actual assassins - the Order and the Creed start in reality with al-Mualim - it might be a bit of an odd installment) or the future (though it seems the team are history buffs - an AC without trawling through history's most famous bastards would be odd too).

I certainly think that Tesla and Washington would be ripe for an Assassin's Creed game - with perhaps Edison and George III as Templars (remember, the Knights Templar was a Crusader order and uses the George Cross as an emblem - it stands to reason that British monarchs [or just Brits - who are always villains, though Desmond and all his ancestors are descended from Altair and Maria Thorpe, an ex-Templar Brit ] should be allied with Templars). There's all sorts of Illuminati and Masonic stuff that could be trolled through (the super-secret Illuminati really being a cover for the Assassins; Masons being Templars).

 

[Recon]

Famine
The Ezio trilogy was always going to be a trilogy, but Ubisoft have remarked that they could make 30+ AC games - they've got 900 years between Altair and Desmond and 40 pieces of Eden to find. They could even tell the First Civilisation's story (though without actual assassins - the Order and the Creed start in reality with al-Mualim - it might be a bit of an odd installment) or the future (though it seems the team are history buffs - an AC without trawling through history's most famous bastards would be odd too).

Well, AC3's coming up if thats as mind-blowing and world-saving as its supposed to be then it will be be a little too late to fill in the blanks with other assassins. They could but I don't see that happening. The First Civilisation game would be pretty interesting but it would be out of place (the game is called Assassin's Creed and all ). Although I can see maybe the Revolutionary War-Assassin's Creed comes out and after that an AC4 comes out about Desmond.

And yes, the Revolutionary War would make for a great AC. This one would be more historically accurate and with all the characters like Tesla and Washignton, theres plenty of game to introduce and wrap up a new character.

 

[Cowboys965]

Might pick this up soon. Excitement! I loved AC Brotherhood!

 

[Famine]

Well, I just Platinumed it (didn't with Brotherhood - the online trophies were ridiculous). After playing it right through for a second time

 

[VEXD]

Now go and get Battlefield and join me and crispy.....

You can pretend the HUD isn't there......

Squint or something......

Excuse me....

👍

 

[plate88]

I should be getting this game on Sunday. Can't wait. I'm a huge fan of the AC series.👍

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I should be getting this game on Sunday.

Me too.

 

[ParkourVeyron]

As I predicted, I got it. Anybody up for some MP? I have yet to pop it in because I have many things to do in Brotherhood.

 

[plate88]

I got it for Christmas also. Currently finishing off story mode in Brotherhood then I will start Revelations. I only really played online in Brotherhood and barely started the story before a few nights ago. I love the mutiplayer too much in this game.

I'd be up for some online action once I finish off Brotherhood:tup:

 

[ParkourVeyron]

I got it for Christmas also. Currently finishing off story mode in Brotherhood then I will start Revelations. I only really played online in Brotherhood and barely started the story before a few nights ago. I love the mutiplayer too much in this game.

I'd be up for some online action once I finish off Brotherhood:tup:

I recently finished Brotherhood, (Rome 100% rebuilt, Copernicus Conspiracy missions finished, though I don't have Platinum yet) and now I'm hammering through the original AC that came with Revelations because Brotherhood was my first AC game. Just tell me when you're done Brotherhood and we can team up. 👍