Audi R10 TDI tune for Le Mans

[Swagger897]

So, if any of you have ever watched the documentary the truth in 24, it's about the Audi team, Team Joest, at the track for "low level knowledgable people" ( no offense) called Circuit de Le Sarthe, or commonly referred to Le Mans.

So if you haven't watched it, for those who own any iP... Product " apple", it is currently free in the featurettes of free on iTunes on the last page. Anyways, I've watched that movie so far around 4 times trying to gain as much knowledge on " how to" become a pro there and do a 24hr race ( which will be on 6-16-12 hosted by djackson201) we do all legit stuff like the penalties, absolutely no assists except ABS and Skid Recovery force only for LMP's while the GT series can't, tire wear ( which desperately needs changed, continue to read and you'll see why When I talk about tire length) its pretty much real simulation racing like the game was made for.

I have asked all of them ( the ones that will be participating in the race or at least to qualify for it) if they use gtplanet, which they don't so you guys are like my secret weapon. Here is my actual question. My R10 has like insanely low HP than that of what Audi said that their R10 actually had. My HP is 806 while Audi said that theirs is classified in the 1000-1050 HP range, ( ohhh so many numbers to pick) is 806 the max that the R10 will do or what???

Also, I just had a weird thought that when you get the $15,000 suspension or however much it is, you notice ( really you don't) that the tunes are not all maxed or bottomed out??? Is this their tune that they actually use as a generic starting point or what because not all tracks have the same tune?..

If you have a suspension set that could help me shave a little bit more off of my time ( actual time aroundLeMans is 3:23:03) mine is 3:26:7..", that would be great! An LSD tune was given to me a few days ago that he said 14:29:22 has the best launch, best turning and very responsive breaks out of the chicanes. He also said that it does make your tires spin like a mo.( which they already do at 5:5:40) this is a huge problem because I can only get 2 laps with racing soft tires ( thanks to those that are still reading) and 5 laps with racing hard ( mediums are pointless because they only last for 2 laps as well and have the same characteristics as the intermediates) I believe I have a very splendid tranny set up that I do not feel comfortable to share and have it misused, but I can tell you that I do reach 155 out of the Dunlop chicanes and around 235 at the 200 meter mark at the first chicane in the straight.

If you watch the movie, you will notice that Alan McNish says that they go about 180 through Porsche curves( chicanes if you want), and that they stay around high 4th and low 5th on those curves as well. I am only able to achieve 157 on those turns but I feel as if, that I could get a proper set up that I would be able to get a 3:23:03 lap time around Le Mans. I do everything else exactly as the movie says, "55 through Arnage, 77 through Indianapolis, 55 through the mulsanne chicane, brake right after the 200 meter mark at the first chicane, brake at the middle of the second chicane when you see the track turn right In mid- turn, and exit on the straight at or above145mph to get a crucial endurance speed."

I love this sport soo much and hope that one day I could be a part of it. I know that I am probably gonna get the perfect tune by myself exactly when gt6 is announced so that'll really tick me off but anyways.. My PSN is Swagger897 and I am only on during the weekdays. For those that love the sport as much as I do, I am sure that I will see you at the podium in a few years with "H" drinking the famous milk and spraying champagne directly beside you!

KC&CO!! Everybody. ( Keep Calm& Chive On!!) everybody.

 

[aadil717]

Try moving this to the tuning thread within your thread options and you'll get a better response!

Have you modified it fully? If not put a stage 2 or even 3 turbo in, it will boost the power, drive it around 300miles and then oil it as you're engine would of broken in, so I'd advise a quick B Spec endurance to make your R10 reach the maximum performance. (oh don't forget to engine rebuild and body ridgity restore too).

Also I believe that the standard suspension is the actual suspension set up the car used.

Also, this is only a game, not real life, so although most things are portrayed accurately they aren't 100% accurate so you may find the the real cars and drivers to be faster.

Good luck on your race!

 

[Swagger897]

thanks for the info...

unfortunately, i have done everything that you said, and i just last weekend did the Indy 500 a-spec... what a waste of 2:31:987

but thanks ill try to figure out how to swap threads

Swagger897

 

[Car Man]

seeing as your race is a full 24 i would be less inclined to use a stage 2 turbo if any modifacation, personally i would just test again and again to find a place where you are comfortable with the level of mechanical grip, also what cars are you competing against as this will dictatae your downforce and strategy. the R10 is actually quite a slow LMP, the main reason it won is that they never went wrong(trust me i was there cheering for the peugeot) and were relentless when it came to their schedule. so in short the way to get the most out of it is know your oponents cars, make your own race plan and stick to it to the milisecond

 

[Swagger897]

not quite a tune but thanks for the downforce info. It will be any amount of gt cars and LMP and im not sure if LM will compete. Hopefully i will make qualification standards since i told Dj what to go by. TEHEHE... ;P

 

[Amac500]

Wait wait wait, if you love Le Mans so much then why are yo scheduling this during the 24 Hours of Le Mans? Why miss the 80th anniversary of the world's greatest endurance race to run it on GT5. You can run it on GT5 weekend I the year, Le Mans only comes once.

Unfortunately the game isn't accurate at all with tire degradation. In reality, Mariano Franchitte said the drivers don't even need to worry about tires anymore. It takes a hell of a lot to flat spot then and the run numerous stints without changing them. In 2011 at Le Mans the Peugeot 908 could double stint on tires (a single stint is about 12 laps), while LMP2 cars could do anywhere from 2-4 stints on tires, and the Audi R18 TDI could run 4 stints easily and became the first car to run 5 stints on one pair of tires. It's terrible that GT5 is so far off because we should easily be able to run a stint or more on softs without problem.

I have seen Truth in 24 and was actually watching the clip of Allan McNish explaining a lap yesterday, I believe he means 180 kpm, not mph. But I deffinently appreciate your enthusiasm in the sport my friend.

Since GT5 is so off on tire ware running a 3:23 with tire ware may be impossible, so don't worry it's not just you. And unless you change the gear ratios you won't be winning the Indy 500 with the R10 to easily, it's top speed is lower then the rest and on an oval top speed is important.

I almost forgot, why run with ABS and recovery force? In real life, Le Mans cars have traction control and no ABS, and recovery force isn't real, lol

 

[br1x]

If you have a suspension set that could help me shave a little bit more off of my time ( actual time aroundLeMans is 3:23:03) mine is 3:26:7..", that would be great! An LSD tune was given to me a few days ago that he said 14:29:22 has the best launch, best turning and very responsive breaks out of the chicanes. He also said that it does make your tires spin like a mo.( which they already do at 5:5:40) this is a huge problem because I can only get 2 laps with racing soft tires ( thanks to those that are still reading) and 5 laps with racing hard ( mediums are pointless because they only last for 2 laps as well and have the same characteristics as the intermediates) I believe I have a very splendid tranny set up that I do not feel comfortable to share and have it misused, but I can tell you that I do reach 155 out of the Dunlop chicanes and around 235 at the 200 meter mark at the first chicane in the straight.

How funny that you want help from other people, but you are not willing to help others.

But whatever, you should not take this game like it is reality, it simply isn't. It's so far off in so many points, just take it as GT5 and nothing else.

 

[Swagger897]

Hey, I said comfortably anyways. If you add me I will be delighted to tell you. But mainly I am looking for a suspension and an LSD set up. Plus, your comment doesn't really help me and I am not going to start bringing this topic back to the top of the discussion board and ruin someone else request to let them enjoy Gran Tourismo 5. I know that the game is loosely based on reality other than the graphics and all, but this is as close as it gets to a PS3. You have to enjoy the things in life that you are given and I'm trying to get the most out of it!

 

[Swagger897]

Wait wait wait, if you love Le Mans so much then why are yo scheduling this during the 24 Hours of Le Mans? Why miss the 80th anniversary of the world's greatest endurance race to run it on GT5. You can run it on GT5 weekend I the year, Le Mans only comes once.

Unfortunately the game isn't accurate at all with tire degradation. In reality, Mariano Franchitte said the drivers don't even need to worry about tires anymore. It takes a hell of a lot to flat spot then and the run numerous stints without changing them. In 2011 at Le Mans the Peugeot 908 could double stint on tires (a single stint is about 12 laps), while LMP2 cars could do anywhere from 2-4 stints on tires, and the Audi R18 TDI could run 4 stints easily and became the first car to run 5 stints on one pair of tires. It's terrible that GT5 is so far off because we should easily be able to run a stint or more on softs without problem.

I have seen Truth in 24 and was actually watching the clip of Allan McNish explaining a lap yesterday, I believe he means 180 kpm, not mph. But I deffinently appreciate your enthusiasm in the sport my friend.

Since GT5 is so off on tire ware running a 3:23 with tire ware may be impossible, so don't worry it's not just you. And unless you change the gear ratios you won't be winning the Indy 500 with the R10 to easily, it's top speed is lower then the rest and on an oval top speed is important.

I almost forgot, why run with ABS and recovery force? In real life, Le Mans cars have traction control and no ABS, and recovery force isn't real, lol

Nope just pulled it up on the iPad, it's "200 mph entrance, down to fourth, then holding at 189 mph throughout these turns".

 

[br1x]

Hey, I said comfortably anyways. If you add me I will be delighted to tell you. But mainly I am looking for a suspension and an LSD set up. Plus, your comment doesn't really help me and I am not going to start bringing this topic back to the top of the discussion board and ruin someone else request to let them enjoy Gran Tourismo 5. I know that the game is loosely based on reality other than the graphics and all, but this is as close as it gets to a PS3. You have to enjoy the things in life that you are given and I'm trying to get the most out of it!

Yea, but I just recommend to take GT5 as GT5 and not as close to reality, that way you can get the most out of cars/tracks.
As for a setup: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=198751 and go to the link in there and try some out, I'm sure you will find something that fits for La Sarthe. Or ask Praiano (or some other tuner) what you need to change for La Sarthe on their tune, I'm sure they will help you out.

 

[Poontanir]

If you are willing to learn what suspension tuning is all about, I have recently updated my suspension calculator, available in my signature.

 

[Amac500]

Nope just pulled it up on the iPad, it's "200 mph entrance, down to fourth, then holding at 189 mph throughout these turns".

Nope, he says 200mph on enterance, that is as you break to dive in. Then he says "now we are at about 180mph" just before hitting the breaks for the second 45° left hander. I mean common sence would say it isn't flat rate of speed throughout Porsche Curves, your gonn'a be as fast as you can through the exits and short kinks, and then slow down for the entry of the next corner. Just watching a normal onboard from an R10 and you notice the throttle changes. Pay a bit more attention to detail, listen for content and meaning. See for your self:

McNish talks about it at 2:38 in this clip from Truth in 24:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIAIA9u1WbE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Here is a normal Audi R10 onboard from the actual 24 Hours of Le Mans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqOULLJ6lkk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

 

[Amac500]

How funny that you want help from other people, but you are not willing to help others.

But whatever, you should not take this game like it is reality, it simply isn't. It's so far off in so many points, just take it as GT5 and nothing else.

Like in the part where you don't get your name on a manhole cover for winning Le Mans in GT5, lol

 

[Swagger897]

Nope, he says 200mph on enterance, that is as you break to dive in. Then he says "now we are at about 180mph" just before hitting the breaks for the second 45° left hander. I mean common sence would say it isn't flat rate of speed throughout Porsche Curves, your gonn'a be as fast as you can through the exits and short kinks, and then slow down for the entry of the next corner. Just watching a normal onboard from an R10 and you notice the throttle changes. Pay a bit more attention to detail, listen for content and meaning. See for your self:

McNish talks about it at 2:38 in this clip from Truth in 24:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIAIA9u1WbE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Here is a normal Audi R10 onboard from the actual 24 Hours of Le Mans:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqOULLJ6lkk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

you see, this is an amazing point that you bring up. you show two videos, one that i have not seen and i congratulate you on that. But from the two videos i find an error in what you state:

You stated that " Then he says "now we are at abut 180mph" just before hitting the breaks for the second 45* left hander." I do understand that common senses would tell you that but common sense would tell you that in the onboard camera captures the sound of him accelerating on those turns...? Hmmm... you mean that an actual video is correct and shows actual evidence that you can not prove because you don't drive at Le Mans, But THEY DO??? weird eh?

Next time. quit being a smart alike and watch what you post..... if you mean gear changes then you are obviously deaf because he stays in 4th through the end until the enterance of ford

 

[dirtbiker535]

Check praiano I think thats how you spell it all of his tunes are exellent and if I remember right he does have a r10 tune.

 

[Amac500]

you see, this is an amazing point that you bring up. you show two videos, one that i have not seen and i congratulate you on that. But from the two videos i find an error in what you state:

You stated that " Then he says "now we are at abut 180mph" just before hitting the breaks for the second 45* left hander." I do understand that common senses would tell you that but common sense would tell you that in the onboard camera captures the sound of him accelerating on those turns...? Hmmm... you mean that an actual video is correct and shows actual evidence that you can not prove because you don't drive at Le Mans, But THEY DO??? weird eh?

Next time. quit being a smart alike and watch what you post..... if you mean gear changes then you are obviously deaf because he stays in 4th through the end until the enterance of ford

No, what are you talking about? I'm talking about speed change, it is not a flat speed, because it changes! And yes you accelerate through the corners, that's how race car drivers go fast! You slow before it to steady the car nice and smooth while going straight. Then the car is set and then launch it through the turns. I have no clue in hell what you find wrong with that statement??? I said it isn't a flat rate of speed because you don't carry your 180mph through the entire porsche curves, the throttle / brakes (depending on car, tire, traffic, weather, fuel load variables, etc) are both used to slow the car down. I mean you can trust me or you can trust Mr. Le Mans himself, Tom Kristensen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-fetYHvih98&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Before you make an argument on a subject learn about it more, it's pretty clear you are new to Le Mans.

 

[Amac500]

And if you are tuning an online GT5 24 hours of Le Mans instead if watching the 80th anniversary of Le Mans with the rest of us fans, then just run the Peugeot 908 HDi FaP, it is way better then the Audi R10 TDI if you want to win. I ran a 3:22.221 today, STOCK SET-UP, only thing I changed was to grab soft tires. My R10 that is tuned to even competition level (stage 2 turbo and power limiter at 98% to make the car even w/ other cars, before my miracle handling set-up). It hits about 221 mph before the busy stops on Mulsanne and heading toward Indianapolis. Then apy my handling set up and I had it running 3:24-3:25 range, still slower then the stock 908. The 908 handles far better, less torque makes it more nimble around the bends, the stability is much better, and its faster in a straight line. It's just a better car in every area except visibility.

 

[Swagger897]

Visibility you are right,dependability ( I know you didn't mention) is wrong. If you have ever raced that car in the rain, with ANY TYPE OF TYRE, you will not make it. The R10 is by far the most dependable PREMIUM lmp class c that I have played with so far.

My friend has also changed the 24 hour date the week after so we can pull some strategies from it. Should be " a goo one" as they say down here.

I myself hit 225 with a 226 tranny on the straight, if you hit 221 on Indy at the right turn heading left to Arnage, I would like to add you. It would be nice to see the two cars against each other. Also, would you happen to have the R10 stealth or the code... I WOULD DIE FOR THAT NOW!!!!!

My psn is Swagger 897. I am hoping to be on Friday but for just a bit.. It would be awsome to see your tune and setup... If you see this I might be able to get on. Tonight 3-29-12

Thanks

 

[Amac500]

I wish I had the stealth R10, they don't have enough premium LMPs I'm assuming you turbo charged the r10 correct? And have you used the power limiter? I won't buy any parts or my 908 because it's was my first LMP and with the exception of tires I won't upgrade it. After the I buy the Ford Mark IV I'm going to get the Matmut 908 and tune it out. But if you are aloud to run stage 3 turbos I think I can get a 3:23 out of it. Unfortunately my Internet is out (I'm on my phone) so once it's back I'll shoot you a request.

 

[Swagger897]

Yes, I did turbo charge it. It has all the gadgets I can have on it. I have bought every tyre for it. Hy max hp is 806 which some people say they have 890.. I dont use the power limiter that much because in our endurance races, lmp limit is 857 HP. I do have to increase my weight up to 960kilos from 925. Not a big difference but for each track it is huge. Tommorrow I am supposed to have a race at Monza. We will do gt500 and lmp 1s and 2s. I didn't , make it last time because of homework but I might make it tommorrow if I can qualify before the race starts ( I haven't been on all week because of homework)

Other than that we do high penalties, damage no assists except the r10s and 88 jags get the skid recovery because of the insane torque.
My friends name who does all of this is djacksonrocks201. Just mention my psn tag and he'll accept you. Say that you are really into le mans. I hope that June 24 we will be able to race against each other. Not many people stick in for the whole 24 hours of the race. My biggest fear will be when I have to take a piss and and put the controller down. I am get the g29 race wheel When it comes out. Supposively to have abs feedback!!! I wish there was a wheel that has the same handles as the R10!!

Better get off of this forum before I get caught.... Already 12 and my homework still isn't done

 

[freshseth83]

You should look into the racing series and the LMP thread there. They have lots of users who race these cars. But IRL the cars these days make less than 600hp. Their aero efficiency is what allows them to go so fast. Besides with lower power the tires last longer (in game). Try a higher TC level and a lower initial LSD setting.

 

[Amac500]

You should look into the racing series and the LMP thread there. They have lots of users who race these cars. But IRL the cars these days make less than 600hp. Their aero efficiency is what allows them to go so fast. Besides with lower power the tires last longer (in game). Try a higher TC level and a lower initial LSD setting.

Actually, TC makes tire wear rates worse. It has to do with the wheels spinning or skidding getting back on the power or something. I saw it in an interview with Allan McNish.

 

[Amac500]

And Swagger, if I were you guys, and this is just me, I would male it a LMP and a GT class. For LMP, I would just balance out horsepower a bit, but maybe not fully equal because where some cars are slower on the straight, sometimes they make up for it in the turns. For GT, I would limit horsepower to 550 and allow RM cars, cars from that were in the 1st DLC, the Citeron GT rac cars, and maybeothers or something. Seems a bit funner then 2 different restricted levels of LMP, but that's just me. If I had the time to make a league that's what I would do but thats just me. Endurance races are still fun, almost anyway ya shake em'

 

[Swagger897]

and that is exactly what we do. thank the lord for the audi for topping at 806hp, because we limit LMP down to 810hp, and GT class to 552 performance points. Just came back from spring break.... did the 24hrs A-Spec....or attempted to. I found myself racing while i was asleep. i saw the total time once at 5:46:XXX then i did a quick shiver to wake up and the time was 7:19:XXX!!! i got all the way to 20:45:XXX when i fell asleep again, but i actually went to bed. i woke up and my ps3 was off. 21 hours for nothing...AND i actually did 34 hours worth. I started it three times... the first two times were dry starts and i really wanted something that was raining to get me a good lead. so the third time i got what i asked for and more. IT RAINED FOR FIVE HOURS!!! I was hoping to be like a quick 45 min shower or something, BUT A FREAKING TYPHOON CAME THROUGH FRANCE!!..

other than that i last saw i had a 2 and 1/2 lead. so i was pretty sure i was gonna win. i see no point as to doing it now, but i am going to try the 24hr of Nurb with the gt500 stealth car. I tell you that car has NO tire spin. try as much as you want but there is nothing that spins!!!!