Back Door into NASCAR?

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what about having ARCA ReMax Series cars?

http://www.arcaracing.com/content/blogcategory/0/87/

Think about it: they're almost the same thing as Nextel Cup cars, though the names driving them aren't as big. ('cept, perhaps Frank Kimmel) Also, possibly, with a paint shop, we can create versions of the Nextel Cup Cars (or our own cars) for ourselves. Also, you get some older bodystyles you don't get in Nextel Cup nowadays.

so, what do you guys think?
 
I don't like or care about NASCAR-type races, but it could be a good idea, especially for better sells in the Americas.

I'd go for it.
 
Not my personal favorite style.

I like things that steer to both sides.

But I liked the old car with number 30 in top banner. :)
 
they do steer to both sides. In fact, these guys probably do it more often than the Cup guys do.

EDIT: Checked the schedule...these guys don't get off the oval. Ah, well, since we know that stock cars CAN race off the roundy-rounds.
 
I would like that. NASCAR oval racing never interests me, but I've always liked the cars, and I know the do race on real tracks, so I am all for their inclusion.

As much as it is hated/loved, NASCAR should be included on mere priniciple. It's an American racing cornerstone, our version of JGTC/DTM (all three use modified, almost identical cars based off of common stock vehicles that the average Joe can buy). GT has always been about covering the world of racing, and American series are not very well represented apart from ALMS based events.
 
If wer remember back to GT2, we know that there WAS an attempt to Include NASCAR, with the Valvoline/Roush Taurus being availiable as a racing mod for the Taurus SHO, though that car was functionally more of a Touring Car than a NASCAR stock car. However, EA has the NASCAR License for ALL series, thus, that mod was later removed. That's why I'm suggesting that ARCA be included: Stock car racing without the NASCAR License, Like Porsche with Ruf. AND that I'm sure ARCA would LOVE the publicity.

the other thing i noticed...the ARCA series races in the Dirt.
 
I've always been one to say GT tries to accomodate everyone, I'm not a NASCAR fan at all, but I do think at some point in time GT will, and should represent them in some way. Afterall, GT is supposed to be a collection of as diverse a range of cars and motorsports as possible in a game, thats Kazunori sans vision and goal for Gran Turismo.
 
I think the dirt oval racing would be something that GT could easily do, since they already have rally in it.. *shrug*

It'd be cool if they were to include all of the different types of oval racing cars.. But i highly doubt it will happen. I like those super modified's that race the oval though... They're pretty cool looking. Haha.
 
I would like to see a few short track races. Then give us say severall stock cars from the 60's to current day. Short oval tracks and dirt tracks like the ones at the local tracks would make for some fun racing. Taking cars and turning them into short track kings would be fun.
 
Why stop at the '60s? how about some old '50s cars? the Keikhaefer 300s are pretty cool!

Kiekhaefer.jpg


I have suggested that the Illinois State Fairgrounds One-mile Oval be included.

Say, on the subject of other oval series, how about IRL or CART?
 
This would be my only portal to road racing with stock cars:
http://www.v8stockcar.com/

I'm trying to remember what series used to be the "Stock Car Championship Series," which focused heavily on road racing, even to the extent of running in the rain. It's not really popular because it's an East Coast series. So this will do for now. Other than that, this racing isn't popular in any place that isn't America or Canada. I'd put the chances of stock car racing in GT5 as a 15% chance.

What do you think the chances are that we'll see "stock" cars in GT5 (out of 100%)?
 
It depends on how agressively PD decideds to prusue it, I guess. And on how agressivley American fans want it. I really think this is a clever back door, but i think the oval ringer stigma in other countries really hurts the stock car boys' appeal. (which may be why we haven't seen Indycars in either.) However, there was that glimmer of hope. the Valvoline #6, in GT2 V1.0. i'd give it a 25% chance of survival...if PD finds out about ARCA, that is.
 
does anyone remember the "racing mod" for the ford taurus SHO on GT2????.....Mark Martin valvoline # 6.....Mark won 7 or 8 races with that scheme in '98.....i thought that was pretty cool....CYA


oh and not so sure whats so bad about cup cars....they are a form of competitive racing just like any other motorsport....but you'll never see'em in anything other then a EA sports produced game anyways...so BFD

also what about the factory hotrods from the NHRA ie: GTO,Cobalt,Stratus???

but that will never happen either becuased they are already licensed by another game produce valusoft/THQ...and they're NHRA games usually suck....no multiplayer...
 
Hi, Mac. Please, if you wish to add more to your post, use the "Edit" button in the lower right-hand corner. do not double post.

NismoGTR34, Please, expand upon your argument.
 
First of all, the Taurus Racing Mod in GT2... I liked the racing mod idea for a moment. But after a while, I thought it was pretty dumb with the Racing Mod for the Ford Taurus. I think the Taurus SHO and Taurus NASCAR Race Car could have been sold as two different cars instead of an available racing modification. It is just a sickening deal for me- take a generic economy car, give it a tubeframe body, and a V8. I was even saddened that I couldn't bump up the horsepower to anything remote to NASCAR's stock cars. It was a cute mod for a while, but after a while and after thinking about it, why modify a generic FWD Taurus SHO (even with its power) to make it look like a stock car? I probably would have liked to see sort of a touring car approach to it than a NASCAR stock car mod to it. I'd modify a Taurus SHO to kind of be like the racing mod for the Ford Mondeo in GT2. But take a Taurus to make it look like a "stock" car? I hate the idea. That's like saying you can take a Taurus or a Charger and make it into a NASCAR car and that these are completely based on their street car variants. If they were really the "race on Sunday, sell on Monday" types, then all the aforementioned cars would be insanely powerful with RWD (except the already RWD Charger). I'd rather not modify any of the aforementioned automobiles into NASCAR machines, even for the "fanboys" who want their Monte Carlo SS's to be like the ones NASCAR races. I just get sick of this Racing Modification deal with the Tauruses, yet many of you seemed to love seeing this. I'd rather race the Renault Espace F1 than a Race Modified Taurus with the likeness of a stock car. At least the two (Renault Espace and Renault Espace F1) are related and actually available for the street. ONLY have "stock" cars as separate models to purchase and not as some regular car that can be Race Modified to some tubeframe tank.

Even though I don't care much about "stock" car racing, there is still a spot for me to at least think about this. The "consider everyone" approach is that there is some use for a racing series that even we don't like. Some compromise can be worked. I just don't want a handful of ovals or an increased emphasis on ovals. I'm a road racing guy. I don't want hardcore Americana in a game feauturing a world of automobiles and a world of tracks. That's my one big fallacy. I'm not pro-patriotic about ANY aspect of the GT series. I sure want my Corvettes and Camaros, but I still want a world challenge whenever I'm ready to take on bigger and better things. This is why I like the aspect of not too many existing race series. I can still be committed to a certain nationality of series and races, just that I don't have to remain within my respective region. The best formula would be a Champ Car formula where you have your oval races, but still challenged on road courses. Stock cars weren't purely designed for road courses. Doesn't mean that they CAN'T road race, now, can they?

The best-case compromise would be a series with oval racing and some road racing challenge. That's the way I stand and having these cars is going to be pointless without a mixed oval/road course challenge.
 
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