Back on Shift 2
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Dmarc_Atl
Lol they Never Said ist is the best SIM. The Said the Driving Feeling (Sry my english is Bad can't Descripe it right.....) is Real.
And the Helmet Cam and the Sound is the best in a Racing game and Feels like a Real Race driver ...
The physics istn Good, but they Never want to make a SIM. So what are you Talking about ?
The Developer Said it is Not a SIM. The Said it is a Action Race Game...
"THE SEQUEL TO THE
CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED
NEED FOR SPEED™
SHIFT™ RETURNS TO
THE TRACK TO DELIVER
THE MOST PHYSICAL RACING EXPERIENCE TO
DATE WITH SHIFT 2
UNLEASHED™"
Source: official Shift2 Page
EA Said something against Forza, GT Thats True. They Said something about
the Boring career Mode, the Boring Cockpit view and the pokemon like Car collecting
They mentioned the Helmet Cam and i think this Cam is Great. Said that they offer a more realistic career Mode, intense Cockpit view for example
They NEVER Said something about the physics or SIM Part....
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Dmarc_Atl
I have to say something again. I think you Take Marketing Slogan to seriosly. EA Never Said thes are a SIM, but Even if they did....
Sony Said GT is the Real Driving simulator. Seriosly i think its the best Racing Game for me and i Played it Hundreds of hour's, but it is Never "The real Driving Simulator" physics can be better, more Cars on track, better AI,...
So that is Marketing. Live with it
Nope i dont have Shift 2.
I dont want to attack you .... So pls dont Take it to seriosly
I just edit your Post
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Dmarc_Atl
To clear some Things ...
1. I am a huge GT and Playstation Fan and spent hour's with it
2. I dont want to attack "Dmarc_Atl"
3. If the User or others think this was unfair pls write and i will change my Post and Apologize
4. Sry for my english
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Are you sure of what your saying or you're just tired?
Dmarc_Atl
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I have to say something again. I think you Take Marketing Slogan to seriosly. EA Never Said thes are a SIM, but Even if they did....
Sony Said GT is the Real Driving simulator. Seriosly i think its the best Racing Game for me and i Played it Hundreds of hour's, but it is Never "The real Driving Simulator" physics can be better, more Cars on track, better AI,...
So that is Marketing. Live with it
Nope i dont have Shift 2.
I dont want to attack you .... So pls dont Take it to seriosly
I just edit your Post
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To clear some Things ...
1. I am a huge GT and Playstation Fan and spent hour's with it
2. I dont want to attack "Dmarc_Atl"
3. If the User or others think this was unfair pls write and i will change my Post and Apologize
4. Sry for my english
If I was at my laptop I would post links of them saying nfs shift 2 is a simulator.And was made to compete with forza and gt5.Hence the reason of them calling the 2 out.
I didnt read most of the stuff you said because it really didnt have anything to do with anything.Im guessing a language barrier lol
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Dmarc_Atl
Bf3 was made to compete with MW3. And?
Totally different Shooter.
Bf3 is...
- teambased
- more realistic
- huge Maps with some Little house Fights
- vehicles
- etc.
MW3 is....
- fast Shooter
- massiv Action
- less teamplay or non
- unrealistic
- Little House Fights
- Little Maps
- no vehicles
I mean Even if Shift was made to compete with Forza, GT it doesnt have to be a SIM.
And as i Said the developer of Shift 2 cleared everything. They Said Shift was and is no SIM. The target was a New Genre in Racing "Action Racing" with realistic careermode, intense Helmet-/ Cockpitcam and some other stuff.
Sry you can say what you want... I think the devs should know what their Target was with Shift.
And if they want to do a SIM they'll do it. Just Look at pCARS or previos Games from SMS.
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HuskyGT
No I am sure. I owned the game when it first came out. My Ps3 crashed and i decided to trade all my games because i took on other hobbies. I got another ps3 and decide to grab another copy while its cheap. I go back and forth from gt to s2u all the time. I can assure you that there is nothing major that is wrong with the physics. I highly doubt any of you could handle a real 1400hp FR car around ebisu. Catching the car's momentum around corners is a big part of the game because its a big part of track racing. These so called sim racer vets are so used to GT5 that they have no sense how to balance speed and weight in a game like shift 2 so they decide to say it sucks. That is not true.
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- old-guy64
I enjoy both of the shift games. I also truly enjoy the GT series, with the exception of GT4, which was way too advanced for the PS2 and does not work in ANY of the three I have in the house. It was a great game when it worked.
GT5 is pretty awesome, in it's own right, but it is kinda "staid" when placed next to either of the Shift games.
That said, the Shift games are wonderful distractions. I enjoy them both, especially in the earlier levels where you can be more precise (likely because of the control lag that isn't as noticeable at lower speeds).
I STILL wish Baldur's Gate would make it to PS3 for an alternative to "driving in circles" as my wife calls it.
GT5 is pretty awesome, in it's own right, but it is kinda "staid" when placed next to either of the Shift games.
That said, the Shift games are wonderful distractions. I enjoy them both, especially in the earlier levels where you can be more precise (likely because of the control lag that isn't as noticeable at lower speeds).
I STILL wish Baldur's Gate would make it to PS3 for an alternative to "driving in circles" as my wife calls it.
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- tribolik
No they didnt... none of them did at least for the PS3 version. I loved the game but the lag and the freezing killed it for me... I still waited for another patch but after the announcement from SMS that thay wouldnt patch it again I ended up selling it (though I completed the game and I had the extra events and the Legends DLC so I know what Im talking about)
It was a game full of potencial and did a lot of thinks better than GT5 but the Lag (especiably noticeable on cars over 1800 PP) and the Freezing on the PS3 killed all the replay value it might have had.
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Never had the freezing problem. Though, I did have it going to the internet every other second, because I hold the DS3 in such a fashion that I push the button that calls up the internet every few seconds. Changed the button config, and that little issue went away.
Dmarc_Atl
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The devs may have said that after the backlash from the community.Im not doubting that however like I said before it was defined as a sim.Like gt and forza is defined as a sim..Not a "real driver " or what ever you call it.Your going way off topic and not making any sense to me so im done.Like why would an "action racer" compete with a "real racer"?Thats nothing like mw3 competing with bf3.Thats like jak and daxter competing with uncharted.Im not being disrespectful because quite frankly idc lol.
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Dmarc_Atl
No they devs were Not influenced by the Community. They just planed it that Way. As i Said if EA would want a SIM they would Get it. You may Not know, but SMS are Capable of SIM's with better physics than Forza,GT.
Why would a Racing Game compete with a Racing Game. Because it is a Racing game?
Daxter - Fantasy, Casual etc Not Near Uncharted,.. For Kids
Uncharted - realistic, for adults,...
MW3 and BF3 are the Same Setting, but have Totally different MP's. And Most important the same Target Group --> adults
Shift and GT have the same setting, but different Key Elements. Same Target Group
Just see a Action Racer like Action RPG vs RPG.
Mass Effect (Action RPG) Competes with The Witcher 2 (RPG)
Shift (Action Racer) competes with GT5,Forza (Real Racer or Almost SIM
)
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Dmarc_Atl
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http://gamingbolt.com/ea-shift-2-unleashed-changes-the-racing-simulation-genre-forever
http://www.1up.com/previews/shift-2-unleashed-hardcore-sim-social
From EA's mouth
http://insidesimracing.tv/videos/view/409/0/Inside-Sim-Racing-Episodes
http://gamingbolt.com/we-aim-to-make-shift-2-unleashed-the-obvious-choice-for-racing-sim-fans-ea
And thats from a quick google search
I dont see "action racer" anywhere
http://www.1up.com/previews/shift-2-unleashed-hardcore-sim-social
From EA's mouth
http://insidesimracing.tv/videos/view/409/0/Inside-Sim-Racing-Episodes
http://gamingbolt.com/we-aim-to-make-shift-2-unleashed-the-obvious-choice-for-racing-sim-fans-ea
And thats from a quick google search
I dont see "action racer" anywhere
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Dmarc_Atl
Hate to burst your bubble, but Slightly Mad considers the game that THEY developed as an "action racer." EA will use whatever marketing terminology they want to ensure the game sells.
http://www.wmdportal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/WMD_Overview_160212.pdf
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II-zOoLoGy-II
Totally agree.
@ Dmark_arc
As i Said erlier the Publisher Used Marketing Phrases or whatever like...
"it only does everything" - PS3. It can't swim, fly, Cook, ...
"The real Driving Simulator" - GT5. I like GT but it isn't the Real Driving simulator, because AI, Sound are to Bad for example.
The physics can be better. Some PC Sims have better physics .
Like pCARS (work in Progress) developed by SMS.
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Agreed, in fact I can't play GT anymore as I find it so dull.
My friend is a Forza boy, but since playing S2U at my house several times, he no longer plays that and is going to get S2U especially since it is so cheap now.
If you take the time to learn to drive it, (you know, like you used to have to do with skill based games before the psychologists told the games industry that levelling systems create addiction, and suddenly everything has levelling systems to provide rewards instead of challenging gameplay) you'll find it really is an excellent racing game. As long as you aren't plagued by any of the more intrusive bugs that is!
This is one differentiating factor between FM, GT & S2U
FM - give it to a novice 8 year old & he can win a race within half an hour
GT give it to a novice 8 year old & she can win a race within half an hour
S2U give it to a novice 8 year old and they can win a race in about 3 months.
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i love it and its vey ture however, my little gil must be the exception, at 7 and using a wheel around russel creek she can blitz the computer cars in my c class audi tt and did it her 3rd go, 👍
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- kudos00
You're both right.
They didn't try to make a full-blown sim.
This is misleading, though.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=RGgkQBAgThs#t=112s
I re-discovered Shift 2 this weekend for PC. I got it and both DLC for $19.99 from Origin. It includes all official patches, plus I downloaded and installed the community patch from nogripracing. So far, the game plays good on my triple screens in 5760 X 1080. I have SLI and so I had to turn off anti-aliasing, otherwise the game would lag and/or crash. It's not iRacing or rFactor, but it's fun. You cannot beat the track selection and the solid car selection.
The AI, even on the "Easy" skill level, can be very tough.
I agree, this game is better than I originally thought. The Xbox version did not work for me in the long run, too many control issues, but the PC version seems to be working for me quite well. Love the music, track selection, career mode events and simple car customization options. Its a nice diversion from iRacing and rFactor, which are now my main sim racing games.
I am playing it with my CSR Elite wheel and Clubsport pedals.
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I hate to ask dumb questions, but is this game worth picking up? I'm getting tired of GT5 and it's lack of features and Shift 2 has some things that appeal to me... I use a DS3 if that matters. Is the game really as bad as people say it is?
Its not as bad as people, including me, have said in the past. I had the Xbox 360 version, but just could not handle the control issues for the faster cars and I ultimately traded the game into Game Stop. This past weekend, I bought Shift 2 off Origin, which includes all patches and the two DLCs, for $20. Overall, I am thrilled with the game and am glad I came back to it. Perhaps its the PC, or maybe its the Elite wheel, but as discussed above, the game works for me quite well.
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I'm another one to say, "Yes, go for it!" Every game has it's unique learning curves, and once you get used to game, it's a riot. I've got a couple of careers either done or on the go, and it's the type of game that makes you sweat, it's so much fun. Main thing to remember is use the tuning setups and the controller settings you find in Renown thread. Great resource of info there.
It's a blast, have fun bud!
Have a good one 👍
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Thanks so much for the replies guys, I really appreciate it. I'll pick it up soon, it looks really cool, and I'll finally have a racing game with a livery editor. One more question. Is online any good? (better than GT5's?)
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One thing I forgot to mention, I also use the DS3 controller, and have had no problems with using that. Main difference for myself is that I have mine plugged in using a 2m extension and I've never noticed any lag at all with that setup.
Have a good one
Have a good one
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