Best LMP Car on Tire Wear

[AmericanRacer]

I searched and couldnt really find much so i was wondering what LMP car has the most endurance on tire wear.. so far i got the Minolta and the 4 Black cars i just got the other day and a couple Mercedes but not the C9.. i was doing the Super speed way race and seemed liked 1 of the Cars only pitted twice where as i pitted like 5 times.. if you guys can help me at all that would be great..

 

[Mt. Lynx]

The best group c car is the 787B, closley followed by the C9. LMP:s are quite similar to eachother, so the R8, Bentley, V12 LMR or any of the Pescarolos will do fine. And those are on par with the 787B, by the way.

EDIT: if you want to reduce tyrewear, lower your downforce a few clicks.

 

[AmericanRacer]

The best group c car is the 787B, closley followed by the C9. LMP:s are quite similar to eachother, so the R8, Bentley, V12 LMR or any of the Pescarolos will do fine. And those are on par with the 787B, by the way.

EDIT: if you want to reduce tyrewear, lower your downforce a few clicks.

Thanks Team666 will try out later on my black.. at about 41% and gettign bored.. cant find anything to do just dont feel like racing for 24 hours either..

 

[Mt. Lynx]

Thanks Team666 will try out later on my black.. at about 41% and gettign bored.. cant find anything to do just dont feel like racing for 24 hours either..

Maybe you should try to join the 300 mph club? A good way of keeping you amused for a long time! Go to the thread (link in my sig) and read the rules, and have a go!

 

[Zardoz]

Pescarolo Courage C60 '03 has easily the best tire wear characteristics. In my Le Mans car test it was the only car that could run R3/R3 tires.

Both the Peskies are good that way, but the '03 car is even better than the '04.

 

[Dark Elite]

I agree with Zardoz. The cars you mentioned in your first post, AmericanRacer, aren't actually LMP cars. Those are Group C cars, all of which eat tyres. The 2003 Pescarolo is far and away the best LMP car for tyre wear, the Mazda 787B is the best Group C car.

And seeing as you mentioned it Zardoz, I read your LMP Comparison as soon as you posted it, and it was so useful I printed it off! It's still in my pile of GT4 Stuff. A great read as well as a useful resource! 👍

Cheers for plugging the 'Club, Team666

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[whatupdet]

The 2003 Pescarolo is far and away the best LMP car for tyre wear, the Mazda 787B is the best Group C car.

Are you saying the 787B is the best Group C car for tire wear or just the best Group C car? If it's the latter than I'd have to disagree; if it's the former than I never knew that and it's pretty useful information.

Hopefully I'll finish the game within the next month and if so I'm going to start racing a lot of the cars I own that I've yet to use.

Does the Pescarolo tire wear matter if it's the Courage or the Playstation?

 

[Dark Elite]

Are you saying the 787B is the best Group C car for tire wear or just the best Group C car? If it's the latter than I'd have to disagree; if it's the former than I never knew that and it's pretty useful information.

The former 👍, this comes from it's lower weight and power. The 88C-V certainly doesn't get the best tyre wear! I think the R89c is the all-round best Group C, but I've never done a direct comparison. As Squadron members will know, that's in the works

The Pescarolo 2003 (the Courage / Peugeot version) gets better tyre wear than the 2004 Playstation version, due to it's smaller, less powerful engine. And it makes a great noise too I prefer it to the 2004 version, despite it being 'slower'!

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[whatupdet]

The former 👍, this comes from it's lower weight and power. The 88C-V certainly doesn't get the best tyre wear! I think the R89c is the all-round best Group C, but I've never done a direct comparison. As Squadron members will know, that's in the works

The Pescarolo 2003 (the Courage / Peugeot version) gets better tyre wear than the 2004 Playstation version, due to it's smaller, less powerful engine. And it makes a great noise too I prefer it to the 2004 version, despite it being 'slower'!

That's good. I really want to get the R89 to see what its like, considering it's THE(or close to it) hardest cars to get in the game it better be good
I haven't had a chance yet to drive the Pescarolo, I've only done 0-400, 0-1000 and top speed to see where they stand in quick acceleration.
My favorite(well driven) Group C car is the Audi R8. I still need the Bentley Speed 8 and I haven't driven the R92 yet for some strange reason.

Completely off topic but will I be able to make it through 1 lap at Nurburgring with R5 tires with the LMP/Race cars?
If so I'm going to try several laps around it with all of my LMP and Race cars to see which I like best and which I find have the best handling/times.

 

[Zardoz]

BTW, if you get the '04 Pesky rather than the '03, immediately raise the front ride height up to 80, which is the same as the '03. I don't know what is up with that very low front RH on the '04, but it causes considerable understeer.

Its a much better car sitting flat rather than on the stock steep rake.

 

[Dark Elite]

I really want to get the R89 to see what its like, considering it's THE(or close to it) hardest cars to get in the game it better be good

It did take me some time to get it, but not nearly as long as some people. It's worth it, believe me

The R8 is not a Group C car! Why do people always get Group C and LMP cars swapped around... Whatever
It's probably my most-driven LMP as well.

I think you will have some problems doing a Nordschliefe lap on R5s with tyre wear. Er... The Group C cars stand no chance. The R8 can't do it. The Pescarolos have the best chance, but only the 2003 seems possible. I'd recommend using R3 tyres.

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[Mt. Lynx]

Doing the hotlaps in Free run will help alot, since there is no tyrewear in that mode. I´ve ran my seriously tricked out Viper SRT 10 on R5, lapping under 6 minutes, so it is doable on R5.

 

[whatupdet]

It did take me some time to get it, but not nearly as long as some people. It's worth it, believe me

The R8 is not a Group C car! Why do people always get Group C and LMP cars swapped around... Whatever
It's probably my most-driven LMP as well.

I think you will have some problems doing a Nordschliefe lap on R5s with tyre wear. Er... The Group C cars stand no chance. The R8 can't do it. The Pescarolos have the best chance, but only the 2003 seems possible. I'd recommend using R3 tyres.

I hope it doesn't take me as long as other people. I've given it about 5-6 tries with the closest being +7 seconds so I may practice it with sports hard tires.

I keep forgetting the difference between Group C and LMP, well more so not knowing than forgetting.
R3 tires around the 'Ring is only good for 1 lap I assume?

Why is it there is no tire wear in Practice mode? I find that odd. Does this mean what tires you select makes no difference when practicing?

 

[Dark Elite]

You may be able to do a lap of the Nordschleife on R4s, but I doubt it. I'd recommend R3 rear R4 front.

But in Practice mode there is no tyre wear or fuel use. This is so that the car is under the best possible conditions for settings hot laps. The tyres you choose will of course still matter - the grip difference between them is the same as in every other mode.

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[whatupdet]

One last question about tires is: are sports tires worse than race tires in traction, wear time or both? Say if you compare Sports: Medium to Racing Medium or Sports: Soft to Racing: Soft.
I assume both but I wanted to find out from others.

What reason would certain races have restrictions to Sports tires only(and Normal)? I assume to make sure you don't use the F1?

 

[Mt. Lynx]

One last question about tires is: are sports tires worse than race tires in traction, wear time or both? Say if you compare Sports: Medium to Racing Medium or Sports: Soft to Racing: Soft.
I assume both but I wanted to find out from others.

What reason would certain races have restrictions to Sports tires only(and Normal)? I assume to make sure you don't use the F1?

The first issue is a tricky one. Generally the sports tyres wear out slower than race tyres, but as of traction, the race tyre always wins. A racing super hard tyre has loads more grip than a soft sports tyre.

The second thing is just to make it a bit more challenging, but usually thats a bummer, since you most likely will take a landslide victory anyway.

 

[Dark Elite]

I agree with Team666.

(Except for the S3 / R1 thing, I think they're about the same overall but in different ways - S3s don't hold turns so well, but they don't lash out and lose grip quickly under power like R1s do, if you know what I mean.)

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[Mt. Lynx]

Well, should be easy enough to test. Take a random car - preferably a high performance sportscar, like the Saleen or so - and a random track - preferably a technical track with high speed cornes, like Suzuka - and buy S3 and R1 and then do a few laps on each set or tyres. Preferably enough laps to wear the tyre down to orange or worse. Then compare laptimes!

 

[Dark Elite]

Maybe when I get a few spare days, I'll do just that

But, I'm endurance testing a lot at the moment, and my experience on Super Hards so far agrees with what I said above - they're less grippy in a different way to Soft sports tyres.

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[joseph dobson]

One car Playstation Pescarolo C60 2004, but but the ride height 80:80 to reduce the tire wear. I manages to do 23 laps on Fuji 1000km without pitting! The Peugot Pescarolo C60 2003 is better straight from when you buy it but when you put the ride height correct the tire wear reduces, dramatically! well, for me at leastoh, and make the brake balance 4:2! i have tries to improve this car a lot but its just so good!!