Best non racing car

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I would like to know what car, fully done up is the best all rounder, which is a road car. My friend said that the Tommy Kiara zz2 is the best, but I want something to beat it
 
steven27
I would like to know what car, fully done up is the best all rounder, which is a road car. My friend said that the Tommy Kiara zz2 is the best, but I want something to beat it
A search would not have hurt, but to anwser your question, I think the R390 road car fuly tuned MIGHT be able to beat it
 
TVR Speed 12, it may have terrible wheelspin, but when your in 4th and the speed is incredable, when the cars have full downforce anf ully modded, the speed 12 can get 260+ while the ZZII can only go 250, ish :indiff: So that's why the speed 12 is easily the better car!

Also, if you try and convert them to race cars (as in racing medium tires, spoiler, LSD settings to 10,60,60) the Speed 12 can beat the Minolta, on long tracks like Suzuka amd Fuji, and when i mean beat i mean by 30+ seconds (i did the endurance and quit after 20 laps beacuse i got bored and B-Spec wouldn't be able to keep up with the AI). I tried it with the ZZII but it was no where close to the Speed 12, plus the Speed 12 is britch so its bound to be better!!! :sly:
 
joseph dobson
TVR Speed 12, it may have terrible wheelspin, but when your in 4th and the speed is incredable, when the cars have full downforce anf ully modded, the speed 12 can get 260+ while the ZZII can only go 250, ish :indiff: So that's why the speed 12 is easily the better car!

Also, if you try and convert them to race cars (as in racing medium tires, spoiler, LSD settings to 10,60,60) the Speed 12 can beat the Minolta, on long tracks like Suzuka amd Fuji, and when i mean beat i mean by 30+ seconds (i did the endurance and quit after 20 laps beacuse i got bored and B-Spec wouldn't be able to keep up with the AI). I tried it with the ZZII but it was no where close to the Speed 12, plus the Speed 12 is britch so its bound to be better!!! :sly:


Racing against an AI car is a horrbile way to do a comparison. I can win races with Group C and LMP cars with a JGTC but that doesnt mean that the JGTC is a better car than a 88C-V or a R8, it just means im a better driver than the ai.
 
opendriver19a
A search would not have hurt, but to anwser your question, I think the R390 road car fuly tuned MIGHT be able to beat it
It's not might, it will.

The R390 has more HP, is MR so it is better around corners, and it has 70 / 85 downforce, and that's even better than an LMP. In one lap on Midfield Raceway, with S2 tires on both the ZZII and the R390, the R390 was not a half second faster, not a second faster, not two seconds faster, but nearly THREE seconds faster. THREE. Now I don't know about you, but it should kill it.

I also heard the NSX-R LM Roadcar is the best supercar, but I think it sucks. :yuck:
 
It's not might, it will.

The R390 has more HP, is MR so it is better around corners, and it has 70 / 85 downforce, and that's even better than an LMP. In one lap on Midfield Raceway, with S2 tires on both the ZZII and the R390, the R390 was not a half second faster, not a second faster, not two seconds faster, but nearly THREE seconds faster. THREE. Now I don't know about you, but it should kill it.

I also heard the NSX-R LM Roadcar is the best supercar, but I think it sucks. :yuck:
If duck's backin' me on this, you gotta take it
 
Another vote for the R390. It was the weapon of choice by everyone wanting to set a competitive time in the WRS when only road cars could be used.

joseph dobson
the speed 12 can get 260+ while the ZZII can only go 250, ish :indiff: So that's why the speed 12 is easily the better car!

...10mph difference in top speed and the Speed 12 is "easily the better car". I don't see the logic. The R390 is almost certainly going to be quicker through the corners and does put its power down much more easily than the Speed 12. The only tracks you're even going to get close to 250mph are the Test Course, Le Mans II and possibly the Nurburgring. What's the point of having a car that's very marginally quicker in top speed when you're never going to be at that top speed, for all intents and purposes?
 
amp88
Another vote for the R390. It was the weapon of choice by everyone wanting to set a competitive time in the WRS when only road cars could be used.



...10mph difference in top speed and the Speed 12 is "easily the better car". I don't see the logic. The R390 is almost certainly going to be quicker through the corners and does put its power down much more easily than the Speed 12. The only tracks you're even going to get close to 250mph are the Test Course, Le Mans II and possibly the Nurburgring. What's the point of having a car that's very marginally quicker in top speed when you're never going to be at that top speed, for all intents and purposes?
Both the TVR and the R390 race car and road care are all 300+mph cars. look in my sig to see what they got!
 
amp88
What's the point of having a car that's very marginally quicker in top speed when you're never going to be at that top speed, for all intents and purposes?
Maybe it can if you can manage to set the 1st gear value to the current 4th gear value, no wheelspin anymore ;).
 
I also heard the NSX-R LM Roadcar is the best supercar, but I think it sucks. :yuck:
The NSX road car is definantly the fastest, if you do a race and you get that car in the AI, it beats the other AI really bad, even when up against the SLR and the Nardo, and the AI all have equal skills, so I think thats a good way to compare.
 
Hmm. All this top speed banter is extremely stupid and invigorating. Speed in a straight line doesn't equal speed round a track. Speed round corners is just as important. NSX-R LM road car is an awsome machine.
 
PERFECT BALANCE
The NSX road car is definantly the fastest, if you do a race and you get that car in the AI, it beats the other AI really bad, even when up against the SLR and the Nardo, and the AI all have equal skills, so I think thats a good way to compare.
You're talking about the same AI that has no wheelspin and can handle the Yellowbird flat-out with ease. I got 1'09 around Midfield with it, and while that's fast, it's not fast enough in comparison to the R390. And the only time I saw the NSX-R AI car being the fastest is at the Nurburgring. :indiff:
 
PERFECT BALANCE
The NSX road car is definantly the fastest, if you do a race and you get that car in the AI, it beats the other AI really bad, even when up against the SLR and the Nardo, and the AI all have equal skills, so I think thats a good way to compare.
It may beat the SLR really bad, but let's face it, so could an MG Midget around a track like Motorland. It does not beat the Nardo really bad, and the two are frequently tied in A.I. battles. The fastest by far if you modify it's downforce is the R-390, which is expected. If you don't, it's a toss-up between the NSX-R and the Nardo.
 
Ah! I must have mis-read it then. But still, that's quite a stretch to say one fully tuned car is clearly better than another as you could get a good setup for one car that works for the driver, but doesn't work for another. Because then you start getting into driver preferences and what not.
 
Just as a passing comment...

joseph dobson
the speed 12 can get 260+ while the ZZII can only go 250, ish So that's why the speed 12 is easily the better car!
amp88
...10mph difference in top speed and the Speed 12 is "easily the better car". I don't see the logic.
Well, in actual fact, the Speed 12 is capable of 310mph (and then some), the ZZII can reach approximately 290mph, and the R390 Road Car can break 300mph.

If I had to give a vote, I think it would be in favour of the R390 for the combination of stability, downforce, and the huge power put down moderatly. Speed and Control.

DE
 
dudejo
a good tuner car, imo, will have natural oversteer.

and oversteer is a lot easier to cure than understeer.

On the contrary, most performance car manufacturers strive for neutral handling - no over or understeer. But you're right, it's much better to have oversteer than understeer(in equal amounts).
 
luftrofl
On the contrary, most performance car manufacturers strive for neutral handling - no over or understeer.
I think that also depend on driver perspective. I remember a top gear episodes that show jeremy clarkson being lectured by lotus elise test driver on how to drive the elise because when he test it previously he keep screaming "understeer..... understeer.... understeer......" and can't drift it :lol:.
 
im between the R390 and the NSX-R LM Roadcar...like stated before, the R390 has amazing downforce and its an amazing car that handles great. but with my experiences with the NSX, i have loved it more than the R390. i think its the better car, both in handling and acceleration.
 
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