I have the bmw m3 csl, the bmw m5 and the m3 gtr roadcar. Everytime I fly down that nurburgring track at over 130-140 the damn suspension starts bouncing like a moda****a! I need some damned help with suspension tuning these cars! The csl is dropped all the way and has dampers set double the schock absorbers methinks. HELP! THis bouncing causes me to end up in the grass or wall. Plus I have a stock ford gt and the damned thing understeers like a *****, its like "ohh im bout to make a turn, press brake, car goes straight when I try to turn" wtf is with that cars suspension! 💡
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I have a csl. i've lowered it only slightly, and have fitted racing tyres & a rear wing.
Check that you have near 3/4's downforce front & rear.
You need some travel in the suspension for the 'ring, as its very bumpy :-)
I can take nearly all the circuit flat out as much as possible. No bouncing involved.
Good luck with it.
Check that you have near 3/4's downforce front & rear.
You need some travel in the suspension for the 'ring, as its very bumpy :-)
I can take nearly all the circuit flat out as much as possible. No bouncing involved.
Good luck with it.
see how its really done at nurb w/ a M3 GTR!
sweet video - full lap
http://www.godoftheinternet.com/m3_gtr_nurburgring.wmv
in game just - raise ride height alittle if u are havin a prob - bumpy track so itll help
sweet video - full lap
http://www.godoftheinternet.com/m3_gtr_nurburgring.wmv
in game just - raise ride height alittle if u are havin a prob - bumpy track so itll help
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pwnage. it got intense when the back end got loose on the second banked cornerAmazing video, you are the man! M3 GTR's are pimp.....check them out at www.SuperCars.net
haha i know it, i was talking to myself almost about his driving (being amazed at the balls he has) the entire time...good thing i was alone. anyway the vid inspired me to run my M3 GTR Race Car around the ring on N1 tires, i ran a 7:48 (went off the road once; small incident). i expect that the fact that i have no fear for my life and that the car probably has more power than it does in real life caused my better time than Stuck's (8:00). But damn is it fun.
Man that Video is amazing !!! Was that a E36 GTR or a E46 GTR ?
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Hi, i'll post my suspension setup for my M3, which sends the car around corners like its on rails.
Springs: F 14.5 R 13.0
Ride height: 94mm all round (all though it can be raised more to cope with the bumps)
Dampers: 9 for bump and rebound, front and rear.
Camber: F 6.5% R 3.5%
Toe: F zero R -3
Stabiliser: F 6 R 6
TCS: 2
Medium racing tires.
Although its by no means perfect, this has given me some good results and was good enough to lap the Nurburgring at 7.29. The bumpy track at the 'ring can still catch you out!
James
Springs: F 14.5 R 13.0
Ride height: 94mm all round (all though it can be raised more to cope with the bumps)
Dampers: 9 for bump and rebound, front and rear.
Camber: F 6.5% R 3.5%
Toe: F zero R -3
Stabiliser: F 6 R 6
TCS: 2
Medium racing tires.
Although its by no means perfect, this has given me some good results and was good enough to lap the Nurburgring at 7.29. The bumpy track at the 'ring can still catch you out!
James
Does anyone have any setting for the M5?
It's making around 700hp, which I think may be a bit too much, because all it want's to do is understeer.... i've read M-specs tuning guide, softened the front end up, but it's still just wanting to understeer off the track, even at very slow speed....
I'm at a loss. I find GT4 is pretty un-user friendly when changing suspension settings. I recall in GT2, things like toe and camber had a visual background, showing which way the wheel is moving when you adjust. none of this in GT4, and you can only adjust camber one way, 0-8, no negative, and no indication what it's actually doing to the car. 👎
Anyway, does anyone have a good high-power M5 suspension setup?
It's making around 700hp, which I think may be a bit too much, because all it want's to do is understeer.... i've read M-specs tuning guide, softened the front end up, but it's still just wanting to understeer off the track, even at very slow speed....
I'm at a loss. I find GT4 is pretty un-user friendly when changing suspension settings. I recall in GT2, things like toe and camber had a visual background, showing which way the wheel is moving when you adjust. none of this in GT4, and you can only adjust camber one way, 0-8, no negative, and no indication what it's actually doing to the car. 👎
Anyway, does anyone have a good high-power M5 suspension setup?
Is suspension tuning backwards ? OK, so I want/need to buy an M for the 'M' club race. I know these questions can bug some people, but the M3 CSL and M5 are both exceptional cars, and cost about the same. Since you can't buy to test drive (CURSE AUTOSAVE!), I ran the normal M3 against the M5 in arcade, and compared my times. The M5 laps were faster by about 3-5 secs , and held about 0-3 mph faster through some constant radius turns(yes, of course same tires). Plus you can use it in the supercar race, too. But it is tons heavier, and I wonder if the extra weight will end up biting me in my (big) butt. Will lightening the M3 will get me a better power/weight ratio than the M5 would get with similar weight reductions? Will some suspension work and mass reduction (plus the CSL's additional power over a stock M3) give me better times than the M5?
P.S. Kirium, you did lighten your M5, right? A heavy car sure would explain understeer that defies suspension tuning. Just a thought.
P.S. Kirium, you did lighten your M5, right? A heavy car sure would explain understeer that defies suspension tuning. Just a thought.
the m5's power seems to destroy all the other M cars in that championship, as stock. its not a very hard one to win i think. if you want a challenge use n2 tires and go with the m3. with all lightening stages on the M5 mine still weighed about 1400kgs...which is absurd and it definately shows its weight in many of the races. tuning the csl to max makes it drive like the m3 GTR race car, but faster.
To answer your other question, I'd go for the CSL, lightened a bit, and with S1 or 2 tuning, chip, exhaust, flywheel and clutch and brakes (no need for the controller).
It corners so well i find, nice and flat thru turns, has great power to weight ratio. there's good settings for in this post https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1503041&postcount=13
Hope that helps
It corners so well i find, nice and flat thru turns, has great power to weight ratio. there's good settings for in this post https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=1503041&postcount=13
Hope that helps
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Heh, I'm glad ppl liked my CSL settings. The CSL is by far the most balance of all the M3. I've been able to beat the GT cars with those setting and some extra power. The M3 GTR is probably the fastest. It gives up a slight bit in cornering and gains a bunch of horsepower compared to the CSL.
I'm tinkering M3 GTR settings derived from my CSL settings:
Spring rate 8.6 9.1
Ride height 84 84
Bound 9 10 (alternately bound 5 7 rebound 2 2 works more stable)
rebound 3 3
camber 2.0 1.0
toe 0 0
swaybar 1 3
downforce 30 30
All driving aides off
Full custom limited slip
init 5
accel 25 (Put this setting higher if you are roasting the inside rear on corner exit)
decel 5
stage 3 lightening
Around 400 hp
Medium Race tires.
EDIT: when this car is tuned to over 500 hp, tcs 1 limits wheelspin just the right amount
Heh, I'm glad ppl liked my CSL settings. The CSL is by far the most balance of all the M3. I've been able to beat the GT cars with those setting and some extra power. The M3 GTR is probably the fastest. It gives up a slight bit in cornering and gains a bunch of horsepower compared to the CSL.
I'm tinkering M3 GTR settings derived from my CSL settings:
Spring rate 8.6 9.1
Ride height 84 84
Bound 9 10 (alternately bound 5 7 rebound 2 2 works more stable)
rebound 3 3
camber 2.0 1.0
toe 0 0
swaybar 1 3
downforce 30 30
All driving aides off
Full custom limited slip
init 5
accel 25 (Put this setting higher if you are roasting the inside rear on corner exit)
decel 5
stage 3 lightening
Around 400 hp
Medium Race tires.
EDIT: when this car is tuned to over 500 hp, tcs 1 limits wheelspin just the right amount
