Bogus Penalty at Nations Cup today

[jrbabbitt]

In video you see another lost control of themself and in their attempt of correction barely hit me in my left rear quarter (you can hear it) not enough to even move me but thus I get a 5 second penalty, for what? Collision with another car!!
They hit me, not the other way around.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

It sucks and isn’t how the penalty should work, but you also made zero attempt to avoid the collision and were tunnel visioned on staying in the draft so… way she goes.

When it was clear you were going to pass high, should have made sure you were high enough since you can’t appeal penalties after the fact to the GT stewards. Better safe than penalized.

Keep in mind you’re in a left banked turn so the game is more likely to incorrectly assume you are the one turning into him.

 

[jrbabbitt]

but you also made zero attempt to avoid the collision and were tunnel visioned on staying in the draft so… way she goes.

But I saw that that car was ghosted and I had passed him , how am I to avoid a PASSED car?
I do not have clairvoyance to know a passed car will come up and bite me in my...... rear.
Besides he hit me, not other way around...

 

[SupaflyIRL]

But I saw that that car was ghosted and I had passed him , how am I to avoid a PASSED car?
I do not have clairvoyance to know a passed car will come up and bite me in my...... rear.
Besides he hit me, not other way around...

How are you to avoid a passed car? The same way you contact a “passed” car? By admitting you hadn’t fully passed them cleanly?

You didn’t fully avoid the contact and could have done so with the lightest of easing up on the left turn. You don’t need clairvoyance to know you were passing him high and could have given a little more room to a totally out of control car while going 180mph. Also don’t need clairvoyance to know ghosted cars un ghost at some point.

You hit each other. Him on the rejoin and you in a slow banked left turn. Again, way she goes. The penalty system is dumb and you did nothing to avoid contact. Both are true.

 

[jrbabbitt]

The penalty system is dumb and you did nothing to avoid contact. Both are true.

I don't like your answer BUT I have to accept it for it is true, sorry I made such a fuss over this...

 

[Famine]

It sucks and isn’t how the penalty should work, but you also made zero attempt to avoid the collision and were tunnel visioned on staying in the draft so… way she goes.

When it was clear you were going to pass high, should have made sure you were high enough since you can’t appeal penalties after the fact to the GT stewards. Better safe than penalized.

Keep in mind you’re in a left banked turn so the game is more likely to incorrectly assume you are the one turning into him.

How are you to avoid a passed car? The same way you contact a “passed” car? By admitting you hadn’t fully passed them cleanly?

You didn’t fully avoid the contact and could have done so with the lightest of easing up on the left turn. You don’t need clairvoyance to know you were passing him high and could have given a little more room to a totally out of control car while going 180mph. Also don’t need clairvoyance to know ghosted cars un ghost at some point.

You hit each other. Him on the rejoin and you in a slow banked left turn. Again, way she goes. The penalty system is dumb and you did nothing to avoid contact. Both are true.

Seems a bit harsh; aside from the obvious (and distracting) lagging going on, the out-of-control car goes from the edge of grass on the infield to the wall on the outside and back across to the infield in two seconds, and there's only just over a second from contacting the outside wall to being back on the apron but (somehow; probably lag again) moving back onto the track in the opposite direction again.

In cockpit/bumper cam (and sure, this looks like copter cam as-live, but you'd get the same penalty regardless), you wouldn't even have seen it until the car zipped across (ghosted) in front of you, and given the speed it crosses four+ lanes pointing left there's no hint that it's going to be moving back onto the circuit (unghosted, for some reason, despite still being out of control) pointing right at that point. At full speed, as it happened, without the benefit of watching it back later, you'd have very little chance to even think "woah what the ****" before copping a five-second penalty for something you didn't even know had happened.

Sure, if he'd been a half lane up the banking he would have missed it completely, but that's just bad luck really. As opposed to the Supra ahead which had the good fortune of not being involved in a collision due to the ghosting. I expect that there was some contact behind too.

It's just another case of penalty system gonna penalty, really.

I'm a little confused as to how/why the NSX stabilised against the wall and then scythed down the track anyway...

 

[SupaflyIRL]

I'm just perplexed he didn't react, like, at all. Which discounts luck in my opinion. He made his own luck by not moving off his line at all. In a world where not only the current penalty system exists but also the potential to just plain wreck, its a confusing choice for sure.