Bombing at Volgograd's railway station in Russia.

Might be wise to make the thread title less misleading. The bombing was in Volgograd's railway station as the article says, not Sochi's. Though the relative proximity to Sochi has of course revived questions about safety and security for the Winter games that'll begin in a few weeks.
 
Might be wise to make the thread title less misleading. The bombing was in Volgograd's railway station as the article says, not Sochi's. Though the relative proximity to Sochi has of course revived questions about safety and security for the Winter games that'll begin in a few weeks.

Ok I changed the title so it's less misleading.
 
Uh oh. I have a feeling that these Olympics will be the gloomiest and bloodiest yet..
 
I hope people won't go, like they didn't when the Olympics were in Nazi Germany.

I never thought anyone would compare Russia with Nazi Germany :lol:. I highly doubt the situation is as bad as everyone's pointing it out to be. The only thing that concerns me is Sochi's geographic location being right smack center of the Caucasus - now that to me brings concern. The conflict may have settled a bit but the region is super unstable in my opinion.
 
And next thing we know, former red army rolls in and the winter Olympics will be postponed indefinitely.
 
Sochi is probably going to be the safest place on the face of the planet during the Games. Russia has spent more money on them than any other host nation of any other Olympics, Summer or Winter. They're going to go out of their way to make sure nothing like this happens. Security is far more likely to be far more lax in other cities.
 
I never thought anyone would compare Russia with Nazi Germany :lol:.
I assume that the comparison centres on Russia's anti-"gay propaganda" laws.

Of course, what the mass media aren't telling us is that Russia is actually a fairly conservative country, tied to the values of the Orthodox Church. Homosexuality is not as widely accepted there as it is in the West, and you'll note that the countries making the most noise about it are the most progressive in terms of gay rights. They are essentially asking that Russia as a whole put aside its cultural values for the sake of making a minority feel more comfortable about competing in that country. And while that minority has the right to feel comfortable, doesn't that majority also have the right to express their own cultural values? Nowhere in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights is there anything about freedom of sexual expression (though it may be found in interpretations of a few articles). Gay people aren't being deprived of their rights, because those rights are not universally recognised. Nor is there anything in the Russian laws that explicitly forbids people from being gay in the first place.

It's like that group of Greenpeace activists who boarded the drilling platform in the Arctic, then acted surprised when they got themselves arrested, as if their good intentions meant that they were free to ignore the laws of another country,
 
Racism was more on my mind.. How black footballers are still yelled at on the field, I can only hope that will not happen at the Olympics. Maybe there is a less chance of that because the Olympic lovers aren't that violent. But the sportsmen aren't there all the time I assume.

Greenpeace is weird. They pretend to do the right thing though they do it with violence, and how they act on see is more like piracy than anything else.
 
This is already second third bombing in Volgograd for the last 3 months! There was also a bus bombing in October, 21.
And second third for this week in Russia! Three days ago, there was a car explosion in Pyatigorsk (Stavropol Krai, North Caucasian Federal District).

LGBT activists? Greenpeace? Racism? What the hell are you talking about?
These are terrorists from North Caucasus, no doubt. They're smoked out of Chechnya, but they still are in Dagestan and Ingushetia. The suicide bomber was a Shahid woman, Aksana Aslanova, who was already in the federal wanted list as a Dagestani gang member.
Doku Umarov, the Chechen terrorist band leader, has threatened that he intends to perform attacks on the Sochi Olympics.
In June 2013, however, Umarov, accompanied by his deputy Aslan Byutukayev, called for his followers in and outside the Caucasus (in particular in Tatarstan and Bashkortostan) to use "maximum force" to ensure the 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics do not take place, claiming that Russia's "barbaric actions" in the region had forced him to retaliate. Umarov said: "Today we must show those who live in the Kremlin […] that our kindness is not weakness. They plan to hold the Olympics on the bones of our ancestors, on the bones of many, many dead Muslims buried on our land by the Black Sea. We as mujahideen are required not to allow that, using any methods that Allah allows us." Russian state mass media, usually quick to denounce Umarov, did not report his threat, but Russia's anti-terrorist committee said it was taking measures to "protect Russian citizens" and was "paying special attention to questions of preparation for hold major sporting events of a global scale" while the Sochi 2014 Organising Committee announced that security would be a top priority.

These bombings are definetly his message.
Nothing hot in Moscow yet, but we gotta be careful, too. A terrorist act in the capital is very likely now.
Now, when I see a Muslim woman coming into the subway, I look for a place to hide from the blast wave and fragments. :nervous:

Edit: holy 🤬, there's another one today! A trolleybus explosion, Volgograd again. 14 dead.
Volgograd is on fire again. Like it was when it was called Stalingrad, but today, the enemy is terrorism.
 
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So Muslim women scare you huh?

Still, it's disconcerting that three bombs went off without a hitch and so close to the games.
 
So Muslim women scare you huh?
Not scare, but make me be cautious.
And not all Muslim women, but those who wear hijabs and large dresses (there's not many women looking like this) that could cover a bomb underneath. The Shahid women who bombed the Moscow subway in March, 29, 2010 (2 explosions, 40 victims) were looking just like that.
 
Sochi is probably going to be the safest place on the face of the planet during the Games. Russia has spent more money on them than any other host nation of any other Olympics, Summer or Winter. They're going to go out of their way to make sure nothing like this happens. Security is far more likely to be far more lax in other cities.
That's what the people in Sochi would like to think, but I DEFINITELY would have doubts on that... The only thing going for Sochi right now is that there's a lot of people that will be making big money off the games and alot of people that have money to loose if the games were canceled.... So it's doubtful security wont be insanely tight. But what's stopping a public vehicle in Sochi from being blown up... Sochi's a big place with a huge geographical area, its the longest city in the world geographically and also has incredible elevation change. Terror is meant to inflict terror, not necessarily to do damage to any certain target. All these Ural terrorists would have to do is get a bomb to go in Sochi in or around the Olympics and that would have a huge effect on public opinion.
 
This is Russia that we're talking about. They ... do things very differently over there. Remember the Moscow theatre hostage crisis?
 
All these Ural terrorists would have to do is get a bomb to go in Sochi in or around the Olympics and that would have a huge effect on public opinion.
Ural terrorists? Well, Ural is "a little" different from Caucasus. A few thousand miles different and is not known for terrorists.
 
These Caucasus terrorists. :) I guess the Urals are a bit farther west. :embarrassed:
Wrong again - farther east. :D

Caucasus is known for terrorists and the Urals are known for meteorites. :)
 
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Wrong again - farther east. :D

Caucasus is known for terrorists and the Urals are known for meteorites. :)
Yeah I mean east. I remember the meteorite, I was up during the night when it happened, so bizzare seeing that pop up live on RT. :lol:
 
Currently lacking proof or an admission or responsibility, is it nevertheless agreed the source of these bombings is an Islamic separatist movement?
 
Currently lacking proof or an admission or responsibility, is it nevertheless agreed the source of these bombings is an Islamic separatist movement?
What else do you assume? Who else can use suicide bombers?
The first bomber was a Muslim woman (a Shahid) from Dagestan (the republic in North Caucasus known for high terrorist activity of the local Islamic insurgency).
The second one is told to be a man. But there's no more clear info about him yet.

The war in Caucasus has never ended. Bombings, murders, gang violence, insurgent attacks happen in Dagestan, Ingushetia, Kabardino-Balkaria almost every week. Putin keeps talking about "fighting the terrorism", but this is chitchat - bombing here, explosion there... That region keeps being ****ed. And sometimes it gets the rest of the country (Moscow, St. Petersburg, now Volgograd) hit, too.

Check these to learn more:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insurgency_in_the_North_Caucasus
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasus_Emirate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Front_(Chechen_War)
 
What else do you assume? Who else are cowardly little :censored:s who blow themselves up in public because they're too afraid of the consequences of mass murder?
The first bomber was a Muslim woman (a Shahid) from Dagestan (the republic in North Caucasus known for high terrorist activity of the local Islamic insurgency).
The second one is told to be a man. But there's no more clear info about him yet.

Fixed that for accuracy.

And the idea of more attacks on other, less guarded towns during the Olympics does sound extremely creepy.
 
Apparently, Putin has vowed to annihilate the terrorists. Sounds serious. Stalin would employ genocide on a mass scale. Genocide on a mass scale may no longer be an option for Putin. What's he really to do?
 
Fixed that for accuracy.
No, for more accuracy, I should say:
Who else are cowardly little :censored:s who send brainwashed people to blow themselves up in public because they don't want to die themselves and will be making money on it?

Apparently, Putin has vowed to annihilate the terrorists. Sounds serious. Stalin would employ genocide on a mass scale. Genocide on a mass scale may no longer be an option for Putin. What's he really to do?
He keeps vowing to "soak them in a toilet" for all his 14 years in power. But what was done? The Chechen War was ended... formely. In fact, it's still on.
Speaking about Stalin, he didn't employ genocide to the Chechens for their collaboration with the Nazis during the WWII, but he deported them to Kazakhstan in 1944. Remember the Boston bombers, Tsarnayev brothers? They're Chechens, but they're from Kazakhstan. Some of you were confused - what the hell, are they Chechens or Kazakhs? The answer is, they are grandchildren of those who were deported under the Stalin's order.

They have a suspect and he's a native Russian...and also a...wait for it..converted Muslim!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/0...-annihilate-terrorists-after-deadly-bombings/
Yep, I've heard that. Sounds quite believable. Converted Muslims become extremists pretty often.
 
Stalin would employ genocide on a mass scale. Genocide on a mass scale may no longer be an option for Putin. What's he really to do?
Yeah Stalin's father was a real kind gentleman. :sly: It reflected positively in his character, I'm so jealous I don't live in Siberia.
 
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