BoP changed after the update

[Sinuhe]

I have noticed today that with BoP applied the values are different than they were on Tuesday, I'm racing McLaren for the Manufacturers Cup and all BHP, torque and weight have been slightly reduced, and although the PP increases slightly I feel I'm slower than I was on Tuesday but this may just be me, maybe I had a very good day on Tuesday😅

Anyone else has notice any changes in BoP values? I have looked at the update details but I haven't seen anything mentioned about BoP changes.

 

[Mistah_MCA]

Gr. 3 MR cars got the BOP change.

Link to BOP comparison and graph (GT Engine)

 

[xMAXIx79]

No, I didn't pay attention to whether the BoP had changed, but yesterday I was able to achieve significantly better times in SPA with the GT LM RC Spec2.

 

[anthonyfa18]

Gr. 3 MR cars got the BOP change.

Link to BOP comparison and graph (GT Engine)

I find this very odd, I was playing tonight and my nsx gr.3 dose not have bop that is reported by GT-Engine. It is still using the 1.16 update bop, is there any thing I can do to fix this ???

 

[Sinuhe]

Gr. 3 MR cars got the BOP change.

Link to BOP comparison and graph (GT Engine)

Thanks for that👍

 

[anthonyfa18]

I had one TM product, the T300RS and I got rid of it for my first Fanatec product because it would randomly pause the game. As you can expect, thats a no-no for OLR and it never got fixed, so I threw it away. I couldn't be happier with Fanatec products, they are superior in every way to other manufacturers. They've really improved their support system/team and with having a distribution hub in California it doesn't take long for RMA turn arounds. But to each their own, they are more expensive, but so are Mercedes-Benz 🤷‍♂️


Jerome

I find this very odd, I was playing tonight and my nsx gr.3 dose not have bop that is reported by GT-Engine. It is still using the 1.16 update bop, is there any thing I can do to fix this ???

Here are the photo from the game, According to GT-Engine the should have with the 1.17 update the shoud have 565 but as u can see in my photo it dose not it has 557, is my game bugged.i have done Time trials at Spa Daytona in sport mode and the car still off pace

 

[Famine]

According to GT-Engine the should have with the 1.17 update the shoud have 565 but as u can see in my photo it dose not it has 557, is my game bugged.

No. You're using hp as the unit for power, "GT-Engine" is using PS as the unit for power. 1PS is 0.986hp.

565PS is 557hp.

 

[KAlex122]

In which language do i have to play to get PS?

 

[Meythia]

No. You're using hp as the unit for power, "GT-Engine" is using PS as the unit for power. 1PS is 0.986hp.

565PS is 557hp.

And there I though PS (Pferdestärke) is just the german translation of HP (horsepower).

 

[Famine]

And there I though PS (Pferdestärke) is just the german translation of HP (horsepower).

It is also that, but the unit itself is different.

1PS = 75kgm/s
1hp = 550lbft/s

Also I hate it, because it's not a real metric unit. It's an imperial unit (which is all about feelings) converted into metric (which should be all about powers of ten) and rounded to a near number that doesn't feel uncomfortable (which is again all about feelings).

The metric unit of power is the watt (W), which is 1 Nm/s.

 

[Meythia]

The metric unit of power is the watt (W), which is 1 Nm/s.

In german car details "we" are using kW instead of PS. No questions left open this way.

 

[anthonyfa18]

No. You're using hp as the unit for power, "GT-Engine" is using PS as the unit for power. 1PS is 0.986hp.

565PS is 557hp.

Thanks for that, but the car still lack pace on the Straight, comparing to the op wrx and Supra

 

[Famine]

In german car details "we" are using kW instead of PS. No questions left open this way.

Interestingly, it's actually a legal requirement across Europe - dating back to 1972.

Engine power and torque must be displayed in kW and Nm (which are corresponding units - 1kW = 1Nm/s), with any other units supplied as additional information only.

Just about every European country has its own translation of PS - it's variously cv, ch, hk, pk, and a ton of others probably, all of which mean the same thing - and of course car manufacturers love using it because it gives the biggest number. That's also why they pair it with Nm for torque, even though the corresponding power unit would be kgm: Nm is nearly ten times larger.

Thanks for that, but the car still lack pace on the Straight, comparing to the op wrx and Supra

That's because the BOP is mince, not because you don't have the power you should have under BOP.

 

[permaculture]

Well this interesting - I tested the BMW F1 and still had the essential problem from before the update… the power/weight distribution at the front of the car is all messed up.

I’ll test the others but I wonder if they’re just going off of, “no one is using the MRs in Sport mode therefore they need more power”. Not “maybe we should drive the cars on the courses at the BOP we determine”

 

[Meythia]

I tested the BMW F1

There has been no change to that car.

GT ENG!NE / GT7 / Gr.2 Car Specs

Gran Turismo 7 Database website

gt-engine.com

 

[anthonyfa18]

Interestingly, it's actually a legal requirement across Europe - dating back to 1972.

Engine power and torque must be displayed in kW and Nm (which are corresponding units - 1kW = 1Nm/s), with any other units supplied as additional information only.

Just about every European country has its own translation of PS - it's variously cv, ch, hk, pk, and a ton of others probably, all of which mean the same thing - and of course car manufacturers love using it because it gives the biggest number. That's also why they pair it with Nm for torque, even though the corresponding power unit would be kgm: Nm is nearly ten times larger.

That's because the BOP is mince, not because you don't have the power you should have under BOP.

I understand how bop work, but on Gt7 it is Complete broken. There is no competition between cars sum are just overly powered and make it boring

 

[breeminator]

Engine power and torque must be displayed in kW and Nm (which are corresponding units - 1kW = 1Nm/s)

The Nm for power is Newtons of force applied in the direction of the movement that is measured in metres. The product of those is the work, and the rate of doing work is the power.

The Nm for torque is a turning force, with Newtons of force applied tangentially to the radius of a circle. To derive power from torque, the metres you need is the distance that the force moves through in its direction of application, not the radius that the force is applied tangentially to. The distance that the force moves through in its direction of application can be calculated from the radius and the angular velocity (and the constant pi).

You might already know all that, but I thought I should mention it to avoid anyone getting confused and thinking that the "m" means the same thing in both cases.