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Hi, Welcome to Balang P
I've always been into car tuning and love time attack, drift, touge and so on...
So I thought I would create my own garage here and slowly post up some my tuned cars. I work strictly on street legal tuning so the tyres I use are S3s, its also the international standard in Time Attack regulations to use Street legal tyres.
I've tuned many cars but none of them are complete enough to be presented here now, but I am going to work on completing some.
Here's the current lineup:
FF at Tsukuba - Honda Civic EG 333 BP
NA GT - Honda NSX-R GT BP
First project: FF at Tsukuba.
25th April 2009
Breaking the 1 minute barrier at Tsukuba in a FF car has always been a major feat in real life, so I thought I would try this in GT and see how quick I could make a well tuned FF go round the 2 km track. I'm hoping I will be able to break that barrier in an NA car.
The fastest FF car I believe at the moment is Top Fuels EK9 producing 480hp and running on A048, which did a lap time of 59.61.
The car I chose was a Honda Civic EG, quite an obvious choice when it comes to FF.
The first thing I did was to see how quick it was in stock form. The car had 151hp and normal N3 tyres.
After a couple of laps I managed a 1:14.194. So I had to shave 14 seconds off, thats quite a feat on such a short lap.
So I thought I would do all the major work first, disassembled the whole car, stiffened the chassis and put back what was only needed, so Stage 3 weight reduction and a Roll Cage were installed. I also mounted some good rubber in the form of S3s.
I thought I would leave the Engine and Suspension alone for now. The engine was simply serviced.
After that work, the weight was reduced from just over 1 tonne to 915kg. and the engine was back up to stock power of 167hp.
So back out to the track, what can I say, the car completely changed, perfect response, much nimbler and the stock suspension held up just fine. Didn't think it was going to make this much of a difference but 6 seconds were shaved off with a 1:08.522.
I don't know I can find 8 more seconds.
Now it was time to work on suspension and brakes. Good race spec coil overs were mounted with adjustable sway bars as well and race spec brake kit from Spoon.
So now onto the track to dial them in.
I ran Spoon's setup for the first run and did a 1:08.112.
The grip levels are the same naturally but the car is alot more planted, I decided to stiffen the rear of the car a bit for slight more over steer and increase camber.
The ride height was put right down to 99mm, front and rear springs to 6.4 each and camber up front at 2.3 and 1.8 at rear.
The car still has some understeer but is very easy to drive.
New time of 1:08.072.
Reduced the camber at the rear and went back out. Rear camber at 1.4.
New time of 1:08.059.
So the lap times are decreasing but the suspension and brakes on the original car are very good making it hard to improve on them.
So now it's finally time to work on the engine and drivetrain. I'm going to keep it NA for now and try to break the 1 minute barrier, but if I have to ill go turbo.
So, racing muffler from Spoon and complete engine from them too, stroker kit to pull the B16 up to 1.8 liter. The power now is an incredible 276hp.
For the transmission I went with a fully customizable unit with racing clutch and flywheel and a 1.5way LSD.
I thought I would get some nice wheels for it too and got some RAYS Volk TE37s in white.
So this is it. There isn't much I can do to the car anymore but set it up and try and break that 1 minute barrier. I might try some aero parts if I am unsuccessful this time.
First session out on stock transmission setup, the engine is incredible, good linear power, easy to control. Max power is available right up to 9000rpm. The car still has some understeer but overall it feels great.
First attack time is 1:04.067. This isn't looking too good. The car is being pushed to the limits and it seems like theres only so much I can to on these Semi-slicks.
So I change some of the suspension setup and shorten the ratios and go out for another run.
Best time of 1:03.618.
That the best I can do, the car is awesome to drive, easy and the power is so smooth. I don't think I want to go turbo just yet, I'm going to try out some aero parts first.
I mounted a wing and splitter, the looks have been compromised but this should defenately bring the lap time down a little.
Went out with the new setup set a 30F and 20R, the car can carry more speed through the last turn and feels slightly better over all.
New best lap of 1:02.765.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to go Turbo.
Went to HKS to get a turbo kit, got the Original Kit which boost my power up to 333hp. Really cool that it has 333 hp, i think I'm going to name the car using that number.
I'm hoping this power upgrade is going to reduce the lap time and that the turbo lag is going to be manageable.
Back to Tsukuba to find out the truth.
First session 1:02.585, gear ratio now too short.. going to lengthen it a bit and change the ratios on 2nd and 3rd too.
Final Fastest lap of 1:02.027
With nearly 100 laps done testing this car I don't think I can go any faster.
I was really hoping to break the 1 minute barrier in a FF car, and I think with more downforce and an engine to swap to a K20 I think I could.
26th April 2009
I've taken Rotary Junkie and jgda9rs suggestions and went much stiffer and swapped the stiffness around to 18/12 to start off with and stabilizers at 1/7.
Now lets see how this handles...
Well, the car feels great and with the 1 stabilizer up front was surprised how much traction I had coming out of turns, this hybrid between the two suggestions works giving me a new best lap time of 1:01.676. The low camber I had in the rear meant that out of turns it made the back swing out on power just enough to point me in the right direction with no countersteer, quite a difference.
OK, I thought I would spend some more money on this car and Refresh the Body, 50000 is steep but hopefully it will help slightly, I also got a Brake Balance control.
So once again back to the track for some attack sessions.
I lowered the spring rate up front down to 16.5 to see if I can get a touch more traction. The brake balance is 20/20 to start off with.
One lap and had to change balance to 12/20, it was massive understeer turn-in. Back out to see if I can beat that lap time.
Did a 1:01.872, the car is defenately better, I just can't seem to reach that time, I believe that 1:01.676 was a perfect lap.
I'm going to try and play with the brake balance a bit more.
Update
I've just finished the final setup for this car, I lengthened 3rd just a little to 1790 and went out and put 30 more laps in.
Final Record Time: 1:01.664
Here is the car.
Honda Civic EG 333 BP '92
If you try the car please purchase EVERY item and set it exactly, constructive criticisms and recommendations of set up are very welcome.
Parts:
Racing Muffler
Racing Brake Kit
Port & Polish
Engine Balancing
Increase Displacement
Racing Chip
Full Customizable Transmission
Racing Clutch
Racing Flywheel
1.5 Way LSD
Original Turbo
Racing Suspension
S3 Tyres
Stage 3 Weight
Roll Cage
Chassis Refreshment
Wing
Volk TE37
Settings:
Suspension (F, R)
Spring Rate - 16.5, 12.0
Ride Height - 100, 100
Damper Bounce - 6, 7
Damper Rebound - 6, 7
Camber - 2.6, 1.2
Toe - 0, 0
Stabilizer - 1, 7
Transmission
1st - 3.419
2nd - 2.405
3rd - 1.790
4th - 1.466
5th - 1.211
6th - 1.044
Final - 4.285
Auto - 4
Downforce - 30, 20
Brake Balance 12, 20
AIDS ALL OFF
The best way to drive this car is to maintain as much speed as possible through the turn and try to avoid using 2nd, there plenty of power in 3rd at low revs to break traction. I think the handling gives slight oversteer on power at low speed and slight understeer on power at high speed, turn in is neutral so you can easily point it into a corner. The transmission ratio is for Tsukuba so it will be very short for other tracks.
Well, hope you've enjoyed my little challenge and hope you try out the car and go faster.
I would like to thank everyone that has helped me develop this project, I may come back again and try to break this 1 minute barrier.
FF at Tsukuba Revenge
I'm back at Tsukuba and I'm determined to do this. If you didn't see my first project, here, I set out to break the 1-minute barrier in a FF car round Tsukuba on S3 Street Legal tires. Unfortunately the little Civic EG I tuned was simply not capable of achieving this.
I found a leader board for FF cars at the Tsukuba Time Attack 2.0l Max here on GTP: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2405079&postcount=23
No one has broken the 1 minute barrier with a car under 2000cc and I'm yet to find a record of someone else managing this.
So I'm starting again with a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT, it's not a car I particularly like, but I think it has the potential to do this. The V6 engine can be tuned to high power and the modern chassis should be able to handle anything.
Car comes stock with 265hp and it put on some N3 tires to see what it can do in stock form.
The car squats a lot but the rest seems fine, the engine makes good power but dies off quickly at 6000rpm. A respectable 1:08.666.
So, like I did in the Civic, chassis mods first with some weight saving to Stage 3 and stiffness, and some good tires in the form of S3s.
So, the car is now much better, good handling, response and everything feels better, but there is still body roll everywhere. The weight went from 155xkg to 133xkg, which is still quite heavy and I'm concerned it could be a problem further on.
Time: 1:05.101
No onto suspension and brakes, mounted some Racing suspension and Racing brakes. I also bought some nice Enkei wheels for it too.
I thought I would adjust the suspension so that it was totally balanced from and back to start off with and see how it handled. So values at the front were same at the back: spring rate 9.0, ride height 98, dampers 8, camber 2.5, toe 0 and sway bars 3.
Lets see if there's an improvement.
Time: 1:04.345
Well, cars flat round the corners and very easy to drive, in general I can push it further in every situation, but it's all understeer. So I'm gonna run a similar setup to the Civic with still rear sway and soft front and lower the rear camber abit.
The car seems to be unresponsive to suspension changes, I played with a few settings and ultimately I couldn't notice much difference.
Time: 1:04.193
So I'm going to move onto power, see how much this engine can make. Hopefully this should get me very close to the 1 minute mark or at least faster than the EG. Then with setup tweaks and maybe downforce I can break through.
So the car is now maxed out with 424hp. I also got a Brake controller, Full LSD and Transmission.
I'll run the car with the stock settings and current suspension settings to see how it goes.
There's plenty of torque now and excellent power, because of the supercharger it's also very smooth so very easy to control, the handling still needs alot of work, more oversteer and more grip at the front in general. But I'm very pleased with the 1:00.918.
With a few changes to suspension, LSD and brake balance, the car did a 1:00.428. I'm happy with the settings, I need to play with the transmission abit and then mount a wing and with a good lap I should brake the 1 minute barrier.
Set downforce to 30F 15R and went out for some time attack... I did it. 59.729 was the final time.
It's not with the car that I would have wanted but it worked nonetheless.
Here it is:
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT BP '06
Purchase every part and set it exactly.
Parts:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Controller
Port Polish
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
Fully Customizable Transmission
Racing Clucth
Racing Flywheel
Variable LSD
Supercharger
Racing Suspension
Sports Soft S3
Weight Stage 3
Roll Cage (stiffness)
Wing
Settings:
Brake Balance: 5/10
Spring Rate: 11.0/8.0
Ride Height: 100/98
Damper Bounce: 7/7
Damper Rebound: 8/8
Camber Angle: 2.3/1.8
Toe Angle: 0/-2
Stabilizer: 2/7
1st: 3.036
2nd: 2.061
3rd: 1.539
4th: 1.208
5th: 0.988
6th: 0.859
Final: 3.829
Auto: 9
Downforce: 30/15
LSD Initial Torque: 5
LSD Acceleration: 45
LSD Deceleration: 15
AIDS Off
Well, this project is finally closed, the car was built specifically for this, so don't expect it to be enjoyable to drive or good on other tracks, hope you enjoyed the challenge.
I need to set myself another target now.
I've always been into car tuning and love time attack, drift, touge and so on...
So I thought I would create my own garage here and slowly post up some my tuned cars. I work strictly on street legal tuning so the tyres I use are S3s, its also the international standard in Time Attack regulations to use Street legal tyres.
I've tuned many cars but none of them are complete enough to be presented here now, but I am going to work on completing some.
Here's the current lineup:
FF at Tsukuba - Honda Civic EG 333 BP
NA GT - Honda NSX-R GT BP
First project: FF at Tsukuba.
25th April 2009
Breaking the 1 minute barrier at Tsukuba in a FF car has always been a major feat in real life, so I thought I would try this in GT and see how quick I could make a well tuned FF go round the 2 km track. I'm hoping I will be able to break that barrier in an NA car.
The fastest FF car I believe at the moment is Top Fuels EK9 producing 480hp and running on A048, which did a lap time of 59.61.
The car I chose was a Honda Civic EG, quite an obvious choice when it comes to FF.
The first thing I did was to see how quick it was in stock form. The car had 151hp and normal N3 tyres.
After a couple of laps I managed a 1:14.194. So I had to shave 14 seconds off, thats quite a feat on such a short lap.
So I thought I would do all the major work first, disassembled the whole car, stiffened the chassis and put back what was only needed, so Stage 3 weight reduction and a Roll Cage were installed. I also mounted some good rubber in the form of S3s.
I thought I would leave the Engine and Suspension alone for now. The engine was simply serviced.
After that work, the weight was reduced from just over 1 tonne to 915kg. and the engine was back up to stock power of 167hp.
So back out to the track, what can I say, the car completely changed, perfect response, much nimbler and the stock suspension held up just fine. Didn't think it was going to make this much of a difference but 6 seconds were shaved off with a 1:08.522.
I don't know I can find 8 more seconds.
Now it was time to work on suspension and brakes. Good race spec coil overs were mounted with adjustable sway bars as well and race spec brake kit from Spoon.
So now onto the track to dial them in.
I ran Spoon's setup for the first run and did a 1:08.112.
The grip levels are the same naturally but the car is alot more planted, I decided to stiffen the rear of the car a bit for slight more over steer and increase camber.
The ride height was put right down to 99mm, front and rear springs to 6.4 each and camber up front at 2.3 and 1.8 at rear.
The car still has some understeer but is very easy to drive.
New time of 1:08.072.
Reduced the camber at the rear and went back out. Rear camber at 1.4.
New time of 1:08.059.
So the lap times are decreasing but the suspension and brakes on the original car are very good making it hard to improve on them.
So now it's finally time to work on the engine and drivetrain. I'm going to keep it NA for now and try to break the 1 minute barrier, but if I have to ill go turbo.
So, racing muffler from Spoon and complete engine from them too, stroker kit to pull the B16 up to 1.8 liter. The power now is an incredible 276hp.
For the transmission I went with a fully customizable unit with racing clutch and flywheel and a 1.5way LSD.
I thought I would get some nice wheels for it too and got some RAYS Volk TE37s in white.
So this is it. There isn't much I can do to the car anymore but set it up and try and break that 1 minute barrier. I might try some aero parts if I am unsuccessful this time.
First session out on stock transmission setup, the engine is incredible, good linear power, easy to control. Max power is available right up to 9000rpm. The car still has some understeer but overall it feels great.
First attack time is 1:04.067. This isn't looking too good. The car is being pushed to the limits and it seems like theres only so much I can to on these Semi-slicks.
So I change some of the suspension setup and shorten the ratios and go out for another run.
Best time of 1:03.618.
That the best I can do, the car is awesome to drive, easy and the power is so smooth. I don't think I want to go turbo just yet, I'm going to try out some aero parts first.
I mounted a wing and splitter, the looks have been compromised but this should defenately bring the lap time down a little.
Went out with the new setup set a 30F and 20R, the car can carry more speed through the last turn and feels slightly better over all.
New best lap of 1:02.765.
I'm afraid I'm going to have to go Turbo.
Went to HKS to get a turbo kit, got the Original Kit which boost my power up to 333hp. Really cool that it has 333 hp, i think I'm going to name the car using that number.
I'm hoping this power upgrade is going to reduce the lap time and that the turbo lag is going to be manageable.
Back to Tsukuba to find out the truth.
First session 1:02.585, gear ratio now too short.. going to lengthen it a bit and change the ratios on 2nd and 3rd too.
Final Fastest lap of 1:02.027
With nearly 100 laps done testing this car I don't think I can go any faster.
I was really hoping to break the 1 minute barrier in a FF car, and I think with more downforce and an engine to swap to a K20 I think I could.
26th April 2009
I've taken Rotary Junkie and jgda9rs suggestions and went much stiffer and swapped the stiffness around to 18/12 to start off with and stabilizers at 1/7.
Now lets see how this handles...
Well, the car feels great and with the 1 stabilizer up front was surprised how much traction I had coming out of turns, this hybrid between the two suggestions works giving me a new best lap time of 1:01.676. The low camber I had in the rear meant that out of turns it made the back swing out on power just enough to point me in the right direction with no countersteer, quite a difference.
OK, I thought I would spend some more money on this car and Refresh the Body, 50000 is steep but hopefully it will help slightly, I also got a Brake Balance control.
So once again back to the track for some attack sessions.
I lowered the spring rate up front down to 16.5 to see if I can get a touch more traction. The brake balance is 20/20 to start off with.
One lap and had to change balance to 12/20, it was massive understeer turn-in. Back out to see if I can beat that lap time.
Did a 1:01.872, the car is defenately better, I just can't seem to reach that time, I believe that 1:01.676 was a perfect lap.
I'm going to try and play with the brake balance a bit more.
Update
I've just finished the final setup for this car, I lengthened 3rd just a little to 1790 and went out and put 30 more laps in.
Final Record Time: 1:01.664
Here is the car.
Honda Civic EG 333 BP '92
If you try the car please purchase EVERY item and set it exactly, constructive criticisms and recommendations of set up are very welcome.
Parts:
Racing Muffler
Racing Brake Kit
Port & Polish
Engine Balancing
Increase Displacement
Racing Chip
Full Customizable Transmission
Racing Clutch
Racing Flywheel
1.5 Way LSD
Original Turbo
Racing Suspension
S3 Tyres
Stage 3 Weight
Roll Cage
Chassis Refreshment
Wing
Volk TE37
Settings:
Suspension (F, R)
Spring Rate - 16.5, 12.0
Ride Height - 100, 100
Damper Bounce - 6, 7
Damper Rebound - 6, 7
Camber - 2.6, 1.2
Toe - 0, 0
Stabilizer - 1, 7
Transmission
1st - 3.419
2nd - 2.405
3rd - 1.790
4th - 1.466
5th - 1.211
6th - 1.044
Final - 4.285
Auto - 4
Downforce - 30, 20
Brake Balance 12, 20
AIDS ALL OFF
The best way to drive this car is to maintain as much speed as possible through the turn and try to avoid using 2nd, there plenty of power in 3rd at low revs to break traction. I think the handling gives slight oversteer on power at low speed and slight understeer on power at high speed, turn in is neutral so you can easily point it into a corner. The transmission ratio is for Tsukuba so it will be very short for other tracks.
Well, hope you've enjoyed my little challenge and hope you try out the car and go faster.
I would like to thank everyone that has helped me develop this project, I may come back again and try to break this 1 minute barrier.
FF at Tsukuba Revenge
I'm back at Tsukuba and I'm determined to do this. If you didn't see my first project, here, I set out to break the 1-minute barrier in a FF car round Tsukuba on S3 Street Legal tires. Unfortunately the little Civic EG I tuned was simply not capable of achieving this.
I found a leader board for FF cars at the Tsukuba Time Attack 2.0l Max here on GTP: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2405079&postcount=23
No one has broken the 1 minute barrier with a car under 2000cc and I'm yet to find a record of someone else managing this.
So I'm starting again with a Mitsubishi Eclipse GT, it's not a car I particularly like, but I think it has the potential to do this. The V6 engine can be tuned to high power and the modern chassis should be able to handle anything.
Car comes stock with 265hp and it put on some N3 tires to see what it can do in stock form.
The car squats a lot but the rest seems fine, the engine makes good power but dies off quickly at 6000rpm. A respectable 1:08.666.
So, like I did in the Civic, chassis mods first with some weight saving to Stage 3 and stiffness, and some good tires in the form of S3s.
So, the car is now much better, good handling, response and everything feels better, but there is still body roll everywhere. The weight went from 155xkg to 133xkg, which is still quite heavy and I'm concerned it could be a problem further on.
Time: 1:05.101
No onto suspension and brakes, mounted some Racing suspension and Racing brakes. I also bought some nice Enkei wheels for it too.
I thought I would adjust the suspension so that it was totally balanced from and back to start off with and see how it handled. So values at the front were same at the back: spring rate 9.0, ride height 98, dampers 8, camber 2.5, toe 0 and sway bars 3.
Lets see if there's an improvement.
Time: 1:04.345
Well, cars flat round the corners and very easy to drive, in general I can push it further in every situation, but it's all understeer. So I'm gonna run a similar setup to the Civic with still rear sway and soft front and lower the rear camber abit.
The car seems to be unresponsive to suspension changes, I played with a few settings and ultimately I couldn't notice much difference.
Time: 1:04.193
So I'm going to move onto power, see how much this engine can make. Hopefully this should get me very close to the 1 minute mark or at least faster than the EG. Then with setup tweaks and maybe downforce I can break through.
So the car is now maxed out with 424hp. I also got a Brake controller, Full LSD and Transmission.
I'll run the car with the stock settings and current suspension settings to see how it goes.
There's plenty of torque now and excellent power, because of the supercharger it's also very smooth so very easy to control, the handling still needs alot of work, more oversteer and more grip at the front in general. But I'm very pleased with the 1:00.918.
With a few changes to suspension, LSD and brake balance, the car did a 1:00.428. I'm happy with the settings, I need to play with the transmission abit and then mount a wing and with a good lap I should brake the 1 minute barrier.
Set downforce to 30F 15R and went out for some time attack... I did it. 59.729 was the final time.
It's not with the car that I would have wanted but it worked nonetheless.
Here it is:
Mitsubishi Eclipse GT BP '06
Purchase every part and set it exactly.
Parts:
Racing Exhaust
Racing Brakes
Brake Controller
Port Polish
Engine Balancing
Racing Chip
Fully Customizable Transmission
Racing Clucth
Racing Flywheel
Variable LSD
Supercharger
Racing Suspension
Sports Soft S3
Weight Stage 3
Roll Cage (stiffness)
Wing
Settings:
Brake Balance: 5/10
Spring Rate: 11.0/8.0
Ride Height: 100/98
Damper Bounce: 7/7
Damper Rebound: 8/8
Camber Angle: 2.3/1.8
Toe Angle: 0/-2
Stabilizer: 2/7
1st: 3.036
2nd: 2.061
3rd: 1.539
4th: 1.208
5th: 0.988
6th: 0.859
Final: 3.829
Auto: 9
Downforce: 30/15
LSD Initial Torque: 5
LSD Acceleration: 45
LSD Deceleration: 15
AIDS Off
Well, this project is finally closed, the car was built specifically for this, so don't expect it to be enjoyable to drive or good on other tracks, hope you enjoyed the challenge.
I need to set myself another target now.
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