Bush complains Iraq war drowns out good economic news (AFP)

Americans (and Iraqis) are dying, and I still don't have a job. You're doing a bang-up job, Bushie.
 
Go get one. Maybe you shouldn't have chosen such a populated carreer path, or maybe you just aren't as desirable as some other people. You expect George to find a job for you? I bet your dad told you differently when you were my age. It's not the government's duty to get you a job, it's your duty to get one, if you want one, and in oder to do that you have to be good at what you do.
 
keef
Go get one. Maybe you shouldn't have chosen such a populated carreer path, or maybe you just aren't as desirable as some other people. You expect George to find a job for you? I bet your dad told you differently when you were my age. It's not the government's duty to get you a job, it's your duty to get one, if you want one, and in oder to do that you have to be good at what you do.

Well said 👍!

Bush isn't going to find you a job, there are plenty of careers out there, maybe not the ideal ones but work is work and with that work comes money. I'm working for a city doing public works, you think that's what I want to do? No but I'm getting paid.
 
I'll start a job at the local golf club in the "maintenance" department. I have to be 18, which I will be, and I guess that means I'll be operating the big mowers and stuff. I could've gone for the city works section but the manager was an ass, so I went for golf course maintenance. Six bucks and hour, YEE-HAW!
 
keef
Go get one. Maybe you shouldn't have chosen such a populated carreer path, or maybe you just aren't as desirable as some other people.
That must be why chemical engineering is one of the highest-paid professions in the country.

Three things to consider before you stick your foot even farther into your mouth:

1)I'm still in school
2)I have a student job
3)If the economy is "so great", then surely one of the 20 companies I've submitted my resume to would have responded by now.

And I don't know why Bush thinks he deserves credit for the economy anyway. The only way that he has affected the economy in five years is negatively by starting wars.

But I'm sure you've figured life out at the ripe old age of 17.
 
Maybe your chosen companies don't want to hire a person still in school. How much longer until you graduate? I don't know how the job turnover is in the general area of chemical engineering, but maybe the companies just don't need to hire anyone. And sorry, but you made it sound as if you were unemployed.
 
Please don't blame Bush for your lack of a job. Blame him on the war, terrorism, high gas prices, global warming, Hurricane Katrina - whatever, but the line should be drawn somewhere.
 
keef
Maybe your chosen companies don't want to hire a person still in school. How much longer until you graduate? I don't know how the job turnover is in the general area of chemical engineering, but maybe the companies just don't need to hire anyone. And sorry, but you made it sound as if you were unemployed.
No, companies have no problem hiring people for entry-level positions while still in school, if they're graduating soon (4 more weeks!!! woooo!!). They should be hiring, as I've only applied for open positions :) In a better economy, grads don't have much trouble getting a job after graduation. One of my professors said that in the year he finished his undergrad studies, most people had 10-15 job offers in the spring. If that were the case now, I'd not be complaining. With no job offers, I may end up working at Target for $9/hr, which is not exactly the kind of compensation that will justify 4 years and $50,000 worth of education.

Zrow
Please don't blame Bush for your lack of a job. Blame him on the war, terrorism, high gas prices, global warming, Hurricane Katrina - whatever, but the line should be drawn somewhere.
My original comment was only pointing out that the economy is not as good as he likes to think. Bush has no control over my employment status (thank GOD).
 
thats enough to depress a president....bad news from Iraq....

he has probably asked for his morning papers to be suspended while he takes a break from the continious noise from the dreadful country..


AFP - President George W. Bush, battling a slump in his poll ratings, expressed frustration that bad news from Iraq is drowning out what he called good news on the US economy.
 
Zrow
Please don't blame Bush for your lack of a job. Blame him on the war, terrorism, high gas prices, global warming, Hurricane Katrina - whatever, but the line should be drawn somewhere.


You can't be serious...yes on the war, no on terrorism, no on gas prices, a BIG no on glabal warming, a big NO on Katrina.
 
BlazinXtreme
You can't be serious...yes on the war, no on terrorism, no on gas prices, a BIG no on glabal warming, a big NO on Katrina.

Thanks for saving me the time.
 
kylehnat
No, companies have no problem hiring people for entry-level positions while still in school, if they're graduating soon (4 more weeks!!! woooo!!). They should be hiring, as I've only applied for open positions :) In a better economy, grads don't have much trouble getting a job after graduation. One of my professors said that in the year he finished his undergrad studies, most people had 10-15 job offers in the spring. If that were the case now, I'd not be complaining. With no job offers, I may end up working at Target for $9/hr, which is not exactly the kind of compensation that will justify 4 years and $50,000 worth of education.

The "Economy" as you put it is doing very very well. Did it ever occur to you that when your professor graduated there were LESS chemical engineers out there hence there were more opportunities? The national economy is doing very well. That doesn't mean that each and every industry is busting through the roof.

Do us all a favor. Graduate, be out of a job for a year, then you'll have half a leg to stand on. My fiancee is getting ready to graduate herself. She's had a good amount of interviews and the like but no bites yet. Do you think she blames the economy? Please...
 
Huh?

I wasn't saying that I blame him for all of that - I was saying that Bush seems to usually be the scapegoat for those things.
 
Swift
The "Economy" as you put it is doing very very well. Did it ever occur to you that when your professor graduated there were LESS chemical engineers out there hence there were more opportunities? The national economy is doing very well. That doesn't mean that each and every industry is busting through the roof.
The number of chemical engineering majors graduating into the workforce has remained fairly constant. That is, there isn't a huge influx of people going into Chem E, nor has there ever been (unlike computer science a few years back when everyone wanted to become a millionaire by starting givememoney.com).
Swift
Do us all a favor. Graduate, be out of a job for a year, then you'll have half a leg to stand on.
How exactly would that be doing you all a favor? Tell you what: if I'm working at Burger King in 12 months, I'll start a new thread to complain about it, just for you :).
Swift
My fiancee is getting ready to graduate herself. She's had a good amount of interviews and the like but no bites yet. Do you think she blames the economy? Please...
She should, because it's a clear indication that there are far more qualified candidates than available positions. That's a sign of a stinky economy.

In the last few years, I've watched every one of my family members search for new jobs. It took both my mom and sister about a year, and my dad gave up after 6 months, deciding to stay at Boeing (which ended up being a wise move). If it is that difficult for highly-intelligent, college-educated individuals to find good work (i.e. a job that pays enough to live on), I'm not about to start praising the economy's slight upturn.
 
Kyle,

If you can't find a job that's nobody's fault but your own. Cope. And just because you can't find a job doesn't mean the economy is doing poorly. I know it's a stressful time when you're graduating and you don't have a job lined up. I've been there. It's hard, but it's a hurdle you have to overcome.

She should, because it's a clear indication that there are far more qualified candidates than available positions. That's a sign of a stinky economy.

Maybe you should have taken a class in economics.
 
danoff
If you can't find a job that's nobody's fault but your own. Cope.
I never said that I'm sitting in a corner crying. The fact that my job search has been fruitless is not stopping me in the least from continuing. It's just nice to vent one's frustrations once in a while.
 
Great news, guys! Me(Oregon) and Kyle(Washington) must be too close to Canada. We haven't seen the effects from the "strong economy" yet. I'm sure it's coming! :dopey:

from the article
Bush said news Friday that the US economy created 138,000 new jobs in April, while much less than expected on Wall Street, "is an indication that this economy's still strong."
At least it's going up, instead of down. Still, it's more like a base hit. Bush needs couple of grand slam homeruns at this point.
Zrow
Huh?

I wasn't saying that I blame him for all of that - I was saying that Bush seems to usually be the scapegoat for those things.
I can't believe nobody caught on to that. :lol:
 
kylehnat
The number of chemical engineering majors graduating into the workforce has remained fairly constant. That is, there isn't a huge influx of people going into Chem E, nor has there ever been (unlike computer science a few years back when everyone wanted to become a millionaire by starting givememoney.com).

So, how has the amount of Chemical engineering jobs doing?


kylehnat
How exactly would that be doing you all a favor? Tell you what: if I'm working at Burger King in 12 months, I'll start a new thread to complain about it, just for you :).

Because at least then you would be in a position where you couldn't find a job for a while and "might" have a little bit of credibility in saying the economy isn't doing well.

kylehnat
She should, because it's a clear indication that there are far more qualified candidates than available positions. That's a sign of a stinky economy.

You didn't even bother to ask what her major was. Corporate Communications. It's a great career with great amount of openings, but she hasn't gotten an offer yet. Yep, must be the economy of the ENTIRE NATION. Not the fact that:
  • almost EVERYONE graduates at the same time - So jobs are being filled
  • we live in the baltimore-washington area that has a good amount of marketing and design firms so other experienced professionals from other parts of the country are going for those jobs
  • that she could be at the back of the line.


kylehnat
In the last few years, I've watched every one of my family members search for new jobs. It took both my mom and sister about a year, and my dad gave up after 6 months, deciding to stay at Boeing (which ended up being a wise move). If it is that difficult for highly-intelligent, college-educated individuals to find good work (i.e. a job that pays enough to live on), I'm not about to start praising the economy's slight upturn.

And? Both myself and my father have gone through that. It's no fun, but it's part of being in a free market society.

Also, if you only paid 50K for your education, you're doing pretty well considering college costs these days.
 
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