My point about the question is that, a new GT game, but follows only what GT Sport did (esport/online based, competitive tuning system with BOP and thus no parts, competitive cars, etc.), without the "outdated old stuff" in old GTs that most people asked for. Can that kind of game restore GT's former glory?
If it can, what should be done in the GT Sport-type game to achieve that?
Thank you for making this thread, I think these are great talking points and questions...
Maybe not GT3 levels of influential, but IRacing is kind of like GTS. So maybe going for a full-sim route?
As much as I would like it to be, but I sure hope it will not be the only route ...
I think the current GT game has done wonders for the franchise, part of that in thanks to leaving out the old, tired circuits. A game cannot thrive purely on nostalgia and has to make a clean break at some point. If any future title (GT Sport 2, NOT GT7) continues like this one then that can only be a good thing. Whether it's influential is another thing entity as now we have so many games on so many platforms. When GT3 was out, we simply didn't have the scope we do now so being influential was far easier to achieve. For the record, I have never rated GT3 and always thought GT4 was the benchmark.
I entirely agree with you !
GT Sport is a great game despite all the criticisms.
The big thing in real racing are manufacturer involvment. Look at (V8)Supercars, teams rely on manufacturer assistance, in order to go racing. TCR have manufacturers involved. GT3>4 racing, where manufacturers build the cars.
GTS is getting that manufacturer involvement with the VGT cars, eSports, Formula E. Brands are seeing GT as a way to reach future customers.
If cars are nearing more electrification, how do they keep younger enthusiasts involved? Can't tune an exhaust. Especially if there is no engine to tune.
I guess it'll have to be about connectivity via various devices.
B-Spec comes to mind.
Maybe PD will work with manufacturers about remote driving/racing, displays that keep users involved. I have no idea.
I think the core for future GTs and I figure all car gaming, is that manufacturer involvement.
You bring up some very important point of views and interesting points.
I like your train of thoughts.
To by honest i don't get wjy people hold GT3 so high and Not GT4 if you really think about it GT3 is a PS2 GT Sport in many ways.
I agree with you.
GT3 was the only game I didn't buy, simply because I didn't the value over GT2 and it's massive garage.
If GT Sport can be seen to be similar to GT Concept or GT3, then it can mean only one thing:
Things need to change, that much is true.
At the same time, and Reluctantly i say: No matter how good the past was, it will never be again.
Although i dont fully take advantage of GT Sport, i am a firm believer that GT Sport was / is a great product and fullfilled its intended mission, actually when beyond expectation by pushing the limit in the car gaming industry, by involving the real life car industry players more than any other games.
with all that effort, which i am understand and am fully onboard with, Personally, i just wish it was more of the same old stuff all the while.
I understand that it was not possible due to resource issue, and it was MUCH more important to work on the new breakthrough stuff. I recognize it and appreciate it, i am not dissing or contesting this fact
but that's what the new GT on the PS5 will hopefully be, the GT game that will unrealisitically be all things to all people, gathering everything that PD and Kaz have learned since the original GT.
Here is my proposition:
Whatever GT Sport brought to the table, there is no doubt in my mind that it will live on and be even better in its next iteration ! No doubts !
Whether Sony/PD will continue to support GT Sport on both PS4 and PS5, whether it will overlap with the new GT game or not, this stint will no last... it will eventually end and fully transition to the new GT game. No doubt about that.
So for those who fear what we gained in terms of eSport with GT SPort, Fear Not.
But for people like myself, not everyone whats to race (whether at the highest level of competition or not) GT needs to also cater to (young) people who are starting to play driving game.
Where would you expect these people to hoon on their skills?
Do you expect them to play elsewhere first then come to GT world ?
What about people like myself who just want to admire our cars and collecting ?
can i go to iRacing for that ?
Should i leave Sony and go to Microsoft and XBox to do that with Forza ?
Do you expect Sony and PD to alienate people like myself, in order that GT can be a full blown highest competition simulator, giving iRacing its run for the money ?
To me, and in retrospect, The attractiveness of GT is that you dont have to feel like you have to just race and race only. If you race all the time, take it so seriously, it gets tiring after awhile.
When i play GT, i actually like the relaxing nature of it, collect car, admire them, take photos, enjoy the music (Jazz)... something i cannot do in real life.
How many of us can say we collect expensive cars in our real lives to admire them in our living room ? Aside from Forza, I dont think any other games out there does that for us... Does Sony really want me to switch to the darkside ?
so be it, go ahead and make GT SPort 2.0, make it subscription based for serious eRacing all the time and count me out of it.
IF that will be the way forward with GT, then I would be done with it.