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Are you kidding?
...explain the offside rule to me?

People have tried to teach me before and given up. I just don't understand it.
 
Ok well basically if the ball is passed to you when you're behind the last defender ie if only the goal keeper is ahead you, you are offside.
 
In soccer, if a player that is recieving a pass, recieves the ball while he is in front of the last row of defenders then he/she is offsides.

That doesn't apply if the ball is passed from a foul kick off, or a corner kick.
Nor does it apply if the pass originates from the strikers side of the half line.

I have seen it called when a player dribbling the ball just outstrips the backfielders, but that is not actually an offsides.

Hope that helps.
 
El Gigante
Actually, you can be offside from a free kick, unless of course a player from the other team is standing on the goal line ;)
Thank you EG. I just watch teen ball. (My 15 year old is quite the mid-fielder), and I've never seen an offsides with a free-kick. But then the striking team is usually good about staying behind the guy on the goal line.👍
 
Summary:

In order to be offside, a player must, when the ball is played:
  • Be "beyond" (nearer the goal than) the last outfield player (that is not including the goalkeeper).
  • Be in the opposition half.

The ball must also have been played forwards.

From a direct free-kick (including penalties or, in a relic of old-football, throw-ins), the offside rule does not apply.


El Gigante
Ok well basically if the ball is passed to you when you're behind the last defender ie if only the goal keeper is ahead you, you are offside.

Only if the ball is played forwards to you, at the moment the ball is played AND if it's not from a direct free-kick (that is a free-kick where the player striking the dead ball is permitted to score) or throw-in.
 
Damn you guys! Oh well i'm going to post this anyway because I just spent 2 minutes doing it.

Ok here we have Englands finest defenders!
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What a fine looking bunch of men.

Now I have added an attacking player from the opposition team, this time it's Argentina striker crespo. Currently Crespo is standing in an offside position because (like people said) he is behind all the defenders.
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Now if there was no offside rule another player on Crespos team would be able to pass straight to him rendering our fine English defenders completely useless.
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As you can see in the following picture I have added Crespos team mate Riquelme who is passing the ball to him. If this pass was completed, the linesman would call offside which would then just give england a free kick in that position.

I explained that very badly!
 
But if the passing player was AHEAD of Crespo, it wouldn't be offside...
 
Well if he has dribbled past the defenders yeah, but if he passes it to him that counts as offside if their still past all the defenders.

I think?
 
Yeah i forgot to mention that you can't be offside if the ball is played back to you, thanks for clearing that up Famine.

MistaY, love the pics man :D
 
MistaY
Well if he has dribbled past the defenders yeah, but if he passes it to him that counts as offside if their still past all the defenders.

I think?

Nope - one of the crucial clauses in the offside rule is that the ball must be played forwards. If the passing player is ahead of the receiving player it's never offside, even if the receiving player is beyond the last outfield player...
 
Not really. All you have to remember is that, at the moment the ball is played, the receiving player has to be beyond the last defender, in their half and the ball must be played forward to him - and exclude all direct free kicks (including the penalty and corner kicks) and throw-ins.
 
Wow. Props to ultrabeat and kyle. In one thread, I learned about the offside rule AND the infield fly rule. 👍 Kind of embarrassing, but as a casual football and baseball fan, I wasn't sure about the offside, and had never heard of infield fly rule. I found a good explanation of the infiled fly here, if you are interested. :)
 
Famine
Nope - one of the crucial clauses in the offside rule is that the ball must be played forwards. If the passing player is ahead of the receiving player it's never offside, even if the receiving player is beyond the last outfield player...

Ahhh now thats the bit i've missed. 👍
 
Thanks all, I think I got that now. And the drawings were awesome.
 
Here's a situation I need help on as I've gotten 2 differents answers.

In a recent game I was standing in the offside position but had started to make my way back to the onside position. While I was coming back the ball was passed to me and I sent it on its way up field to one of my teammates on the otherside of the field. Now at the moment of contact I had at least one defender, possibly 2, between me and there goalie and the reff called me offside because I had come from an offside position. But I was not offsides when I touched the ball.

So what's your opionions was I offsides cuz I came from the offside position or was it a fair play.
 
If Foward A is behind the Defenders and in front of Foward B, who is behind the defenders, is it still considered an offside if Foward B hits the turbo button and runs past everyone, and then passes back to Foward A? Like, assume the defenders are complete stationary.

Winning Eleven still treats this as an offside. Is this true of real ball?
 
xXSilencerXx
In a recent game I was standing in the offside position but had started to make my way back to the onside position. While I was coming back the ball was passed to me and I sent it on its way up field to one of my teammates on the otherside of the field. Now at the moment of contact I had at least one defender, possibly 2, between me and there goalie and the reff called me offside because I had come from an offside position. But I was not offsides when I touched the ball.
It doesn't matter where you were, or what direction you were heading in, when you received the ball. When the pass was made you were offside and thats what counts.

Omnis
If Foward A is behind the Defenders and in front of Foward B, who is behind the defenders, is it still considered an offside if Foward B hits the turbo button and runs past everyone, and then passes back to Foward A? Like, assume the defenders are complete stationary.

Winning Eleven still treats this as an offside. Is this true of real ball?
So forward b dribbles with the ball, past the defenders, then passes it back through the defenders to forward a? Is that right. If it is, then that is not offside. As long as the guy receiving the pass is behind the guy making the pass, then its not offside.
 
It doesn't matter where the defenders are, if you receive a ball from a player ahead of you it won't be offside. But I never saw this happen on WE.
 
If two attackers are behind the defensive line then as long as the linesman sees a pass between the forward striker to the downfield striker, this would be onside plus be very unnerving for the goalie.

This is in the context of Famine's fine definition.
 
daan
It doesn't matter where you were, or what direction you were heading in, when you received the ball. When the pass was made you were offside and thats what counts.

Ok, thats what confused me I thought it was that when I got the ball I wasn't offsides so thats what mattered. I didn't know that it mattered where I cam from too.
 
daan
So forward b dribbles with the ball, past the defenders, then passes it back through the defenders to forward a? Is that right. If it is, then that is not offside. As long as the guy receiving the pass is behind the guy making the pass, then its not offside.

Actually, I think I might've worded that incorrectly. I drew a picture now, instead:

 
Both the scenarios in the "truly excellent pictures" have player A onside.
 
OK what if you are in offside position when the goalie blocks a free/foul kick and you happen to be there to strike the ball again? does the goal counts? (you were offside all the time from when the player kicked the ball to when the keeper blocked it)

It happened yesterday in the match ARG-ICO.


Ciao...
 
You cannot be offside if the ball comes off an opposing player. He was standing in an offside postion when the shot was originally made but he was inactive, (the ball would go flying past him and was not intended for him) therefore he's not offside.
 
daan
You cannot be offside if the ball comes off an opposing player. He was standing in an offside postion when the shot was originally made but he was inactive, (the ball would go flying past him and was not intended for him) therefore he's not offside.


DAMN!!! so that WAS a goal! we should have ended 3-1 then! :banghead:

btw thanks daan :)



Ciao...
 
No, he was offside. The ball bounced at the goalkeeper, he didn't threw the ball at the Argentinian. It's the same as the ball had hit the pole instead.
 
Famine
Both the scenarios in the "truly excellent pictures" have player A onside.

Thanks. It's strange, though, because Winning Eleven treats the first example as an offsides sometimes. What happens if you pass the defenders but still pass it foward if A was still running ahead of you? I mean, I generally know the offsides rules, but I'm just trying to figure out why a game would judge it like that... unless it's just shoddy programming.
 
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