Can this be done without getting in trouble?

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Can I get a second e-mail, start a second Forza 4 game, Gift a bunch of cars to the new account, start over with my original account, gift the cars back to me, throw away the new account with the advantage being I could be back at level 1 with a bunch of cars.

Is this legal? would it work?
 
Can you put a bunch of cars for sale in the auctions, start your game over and go to the auctions and retreive your cars?
 
Can you put a bunch of cars for sale in the auctions, start your game over and go to the auctions and retreive your cars?

I've heard of a lot of people doing this, make sure to put them at a ridiculous price so no-one bids. One of my friends has restarted the game twice and the first time round he sent me all 70 of his cars and then I had to look through my garage and send them all back, after that I told him to use the auction house method and he had no complaints with it.
 
Why are you so stuck on starting the game over? This is your fourth thread on essentially the same topic. If you want to amass a bunch of cars and a lot of money, you're doing the complete opposite of what you should do.

Haven't you noticed the level reward cars you earn for increasing your driver level? By the time you reach level 50 you're being awarded your pick of exotics and racecars for free. As you progress from there, the level bonus credits climb into the 100,000s; if you don't buy a whole lot of cars you'll reach 10 million credits without trying. That's without even considering all the Rivals money you can earn each month. By starting over at level 1, all you're doing is cutting your reward cars/credits to the base level, and placing yourself further from your goal of automotive wealth.

Seriously. Just play the game.
 
You can have the best of both worlds...

Just start a new game, but use a USB stick as the save location.

You won't lose your first game, so you don't have to worry about it.

When you start, the game will ask what save you want to use.

Use the Auction house method of transferring cars, especially cars that have parts you can sell off. At first to build a little cash, any car you plan on moving add a few sets of wheels, diameter and wings. You can add any engine or swaps if you can afford it too, but that's not really needed. After you get the second account going, there's no need to add anything at all, but even at 1/2 value having a few extra bucks to get going makes it a little easier to get started.

List the car in the Auction house for 20 million with a buyout of 20 million. If some one buys the car, it's OK for that kind of cash... List 5 or 10 at a time for 2 hours. Then go into the auction house and cancel the auctions. Go back out of the game to the "press A to start the game" screen, then press A. This time, select the USB save and load it up. You are now in your "new" game with little cash and whatnot. Now, go to the Auction House and take back your cars. You're still the same account so there's no issue, you're just bringing them back to your new home instead of your old one.

I do this simply to use the 2nd account garage as storage for cars I want to keep but don't race. As many cars are gifted and can't be sold or moved, if I want to keep them, I need room. Since I can't move them on the main account, the more spaces I can make for cars I do want to use the better.

As for legality and T10, a trusted friend relayed his conversation with the developer about it. He wanted to know about this and about people "storing" cars on the Auction House list to get around the garage cap. He said that they do not like people using the AH as a storage facility, and that this is the only method to use that is not frowned upon by this establishment to move your cars and make room in your garage. However, riding the dog like a small horse is... (...frowned upon by this establishment...)

You are able to run the first 50 levels to get the prize cars and then auction them off for extra cash should you desire, as you still have to earn them by leveling up. They do not consider that as cheating unlike cloning saves, cars or cracks etc. I personally don't do this, but I can see why someone would. There are still a good number of decent value award cars that haven't been auctioned to death yet.

I limit myself to one extra save, as I have more money than I know what to do with on the main account now just running rivals and playing the AH. I do know of people with 5 plus saves that they cycle over and over, which is why some of the high dollar prize cars go for pennies on the dollar. There's just so many of them out there.

That's something I'm not a fan of, but some of us just don't have skills in paint, tuning or driving to make the cash elsewhere so I can't blame them for doing something they can do to make some cash for themselves. It's a lot of time to invest for a diminishing return, but we all do what we have to do to make a racing living...

As for making $$$, there's no way not to make money in F4. I'm not some super hero driving ace paint guru tuning master at all. Just an average Dr. Joe that knows just enough to dabble in everything a little.

The reality of making cash in Forza is incredibly simple. Just Drive.

Rivals pay well even if you NEVER beat anyone. Run the laps in the car, especially any of the "stock only" challenges. Not only do you have a competitive car, but they pay pretty well and build up your affinity levels quickly. There are a number of these scattered throughout the rivals area. Every good turn, good pass, accidental drift, decent lap etc etc etc adds up to $$$ and XP. Just DRIVE the dang car...

I can't remember the post, but another player races online against an all AI field for a good chunk of laps and gets paid nicely for it. I had never thought of it, but have tried it and it can be some good money making fun on days when my head just isn't quite with me. And you do get paid, and XP, and driving seat time, all of which come in handy.

There are many cheap cars in the AH all the time. Paint them pretty, throw a set of wheels and put the Aero on them. They'll sell, as anyone buying them knows they have a few grand of parts to sell off even if they hate the car.

Or if you can, tune them good to the limit of a PI point and they'll sell quite well. A good tuner can make out really well and make as much as a decent painter. Let the player paint it themselves, a car that runs well is worth it's weight in credits and then some.

Not to get carried away, but it's all just fake money anyway.

I have 60 mill sitting around right now, to which I say big whoop.

It just means I can buy an expensive car if I feel like it.

It's not like I did anything extraordinary...

Instead of wasting time trying to get over, I just played the friggin' game.

One of my friends just drives and drives. He's not bad mind you, but he's at level 249 last time I checked. He collects certain fantasy cars he likes and loves beating you in a rival challenge by a 10th of a second. He'll spend all day doing it too. He has more money than he can ever spend, and all he does is drive and collect the cars he likes. He has a few accounts to store all his art treasures in, but he loves to drive. Heck, he drifted the Ford Service Van down Mt Kaido... That was worth the price of admission just to follow him down the the thing laughing my buttockal region off. He actually made quite a bit of cash doing it too.

Take the time to play and enjoy the game.

If you do, you'll find money will be the least of your problems.
 
As for legality and T10, a trusted friend relayed his conversation with the developer about it. He wanted to know about this and about people "storing" cars on the Auction House list to get around the garage cap. He said that they do not like people using the AH as a storage facility, and that this is the only method to use that is not frowned upon by this establishment to move your cars and make room in your garage. However, riding the dog like a small horse is... (...frowned upon by this establishment...)

That is good to know. I was thinking of doing exactly that. Not using the AH as a storage facility, but use it to transfer cars to a second, newly created, save. I've got my first one on the internal flash drive (4GB slim), and was thinking of having a second one on my hard disk to move all my flip cars into, so I can keep all room in my primary garage for the cars I actually drive, or the ones that can't be moved. And if I need more money, I jump to the secondary save, put a car or two into the AH, and do all the rest back in the primary save. Equally, if I should get myself more flip cars, I just jump to the secondary save to resolve them. Glad this is considered ok by the developers, I was holding off on this because I wasn't actually sure. Good info this! 👍
 
I trust my friend's assessment, and he did a lot of asking about it because he didn't want to get banned. He's the one who explained it to me with the other save on the same account and how to use it.

Even so, I take it with a grain of salt substitute and try not to abuse it, which is something easily done.

If it should prove to be something too many people abuse, I can see T10 taking it out of the equation. I hope they don't, as the garage limit really hurts when there's more cars available than you can have in it without anything else considered.

It would be a shame to be forced to sell off or throw away unicorns or rival gift cars simply because of the garage limit with no way to store them away. Kind of defeats the purpose of having any of those type of gift items at all in my book.

I do know they don't like the AH servers carrying extra dead weight as a storage medium, I wouldn't either. Having a bunch of cars just taking up space has to be a drain on an already hard working set up.

In fact, I'd even go so far as to turn off the email notifications for being outbid if I could just to save the bandwidth... and also to stop the AH from hanging on me all the time while it tries to deliver a message I don't need. I don't leave the floor at all when I'm on there, all the messages do is get in the way and use up server bandwidth and cost me cars from the delays. I can't see how T10 could be mad about making the server work less by not having to notify me of something I already know.

That's another topic for another thread, but if there's a way to turn them off I'd appreciate anyone sharing how.

One other thing about your 2nd account... I haven't quite figured out how to move designs or decal groups yet other than loading them on a car and sending them through the AH. There are some designs I'd like to move, but I don't want them to leave my garage. It's too easy for someone to steal them.

The same program they use to steal designs also gives them all the credits they want, so even if I put the price tag at some incredibly high number it wouldn't do anything to stop one disappearing.

In addition it would raise flags everywhere in T10 land because of the $$ amounts, which would then drag me into the middle of something I want no part of. The last thing I'm interested in is being banned because someone bought one of my cars before I could grab it. That implicates me and connects me to something I detest and abhor and it would suck mightily to get banned because someone else did something they shouldn't have.

You basically get a completely clean slate in the 2nd account, none of your designs or decals sets or groups carry over... So to me, it really is just a car storage thing at the moment. It would be nice to move some of the designs and decals I have that I rarely use or that are complete so I have less to sift through on my main account just to ease the work flow and time spent sorting and searching for things I need for a car.

Right now it looks like I may have to just do a car at a time as quickly as possible to get it done.

If there's anyone familiar enough with this, maybe there's something I'm missing that would help.

Much appreciation to anyone with thoughts or ideas on the subject.
 
Why do you want money so badly and how much would satisfy you? This game is so easy to make money. I don't see what the big deal is with you and money. Please explain. Depending on how much you want, ill just give it to you.
 
As people have said, I don't see the point to starting over with a game like this. I've heard people doing this with Forza 3 and GT5, but with those games it makes more sense as it's harder to earn money. (Although, with GT5's Online Seasonal Events, you can earn the money cap pretty fast.) But with a game like Forza 4, where it's designed to be super easy to earn money...why start all over? Are you just going to start all over to get the other reward cars you didn't get the first time around? I mean, granted, there are a few multi-million dollar reward cars, but...if it's so easy to earn money, getting the most expensive cars shouldn't be that hard.
 
I can see going through the seasons again with the idea of either making it a little more difficult or trying to make up a race team or three and roll playing a bit for photos or replays. I can also see taking a few different prize cars for obvious reasons, but forcing myself to make the XP only with the career mode and not using any rivals to do it just to make it a bit harder.

If money is the only goal, there's no need to start again other than to make garage room. Money is hardly an issue once you have any kind of affinity levels going, and those you can get many of for free just running the right rivals.

You can also buy many "expensive" cars for a song in the AH if you work a little. I've picked up many cars a million dollars or more for less than 5 grand just playing the house. You don't have to pay full boat for many of the cars you want, unless you just don't want to spend the 1/2 hour or so shopping around.

I'd have to agree starting over just to make cash makes no sense at all. There's just no point, nor any advantage other than a few key prize cars... And even they aren't worth the time.
 
Why do you want money so badly and how much would satisfy you? This game is so easy to make money. I don't see what the big deal is with you and money. Please explain. Depending on how much you want, ill just give it to you.

I would be happy to receive financial assistance. I have lost about 5 million because of the buyout button switch. That amount would be greatly appreciated. Lesser or greater amounts would be kindly accepted!
 
Send a friend request on XBL and I will send you a 250TR or something expensive you can resell. That should cover more than what you want. My gamertag is brycivicsi.
 
I sent the 250TR. I never use it and hate how it looks. I realized I had two Cobra Daytona coupes so I sent one of those as well. I hope 13,000,000 worth of cars is sufficient.
 

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