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ITCC_Andrew
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ITCC_Andrew
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Oh the irony!!
I think he means "I just want to run a series..." The lousy bit might mean that he's been unsuccessful before.
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ITCC_Andrew
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It'll come to ya...just wait for it...
I refuse to believe that you're using this opportunity to bash my series - which is quite fun and quite successful.
I'm trying to be helpful. You're off-topic and not-at-all helpful.
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I just barely started making this last night
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Yes, I have been unsuccessful. I'm going to post the rest of everything in a few hours. This will be one killer series, trust me.
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One further piece of advice. Start small. I've seen many new guys on GTP who haven't run series before try to get out of the box with 10+ dates on a calender, all kinds of big plans and everything falls apart before they even get started or partway through the season. The most successful Race Directors on GTP have established reputations and lots of repeat business because they are know for being consistent, on time and for enforcing rules and regulations. They can announce a 10+ race calender and people know they will follow through with it.
IMO the best way to do this for someone new to GTP is to start smaller with a 4 or 5 race championship for example. Put everything you've got into it, start everything on time and on schedule, work on your preparation for as long as it takes, study other race series to see what they do etc. When you make your first post announcing the series it should be completely ready to go, not just a quick blurb one puts together at the last minute. Have someone check your spelling, grammar, sentence structure etc. Have someone look at the graphics and layout. These things are subtle but important to some people. It shows how professional you are and what your approach will be.
Being prepared and ready to go tells the community you are serious and are willing to do the hard work it takes to make a series successful. There's nothing worse than being a couple of races into a series and discovering it's poorly run, or the RD has a lousy internet connection or the RD isn't always there when he's supposed to be there. You have to remember that the drivers are investing their time and effort in practice and getting ready for each event and it's incredibly disrespectful on the part of an RD to treat their time and commitment with contempt by being wishy washy with rules, start times etc. Most decent drivers will not tolerate this kind of behaviour and will abandon a series as a result.
I'd also suggest getting to know and using the GTPlanet OnLine Racing (OLR) Rules & Guidelines as a basis for your race series. They really do work to promote clean racing if everyone follows them and provide a clearly understood set of guidelines for on track behaviour. Rules like, "be clean and respectful" don't work in real life, everyone has a different definition of "clean"
IMO the best way to do this for someone new to GTP is to start smaller with a 4 or 5 race championship for example. Put everything you've got into it, start everything on time and on schedule, work on your preparation for as long as it takes, study other race series to see what they do etc. When you make your first post announcing the series it should be completely ready to go, not just a quick blurb one puts together at the last minute. Have someone check your spelling, grammar, sentence structure etc. Have someone look at the graphics and layout. These things are subtle but important to some people. It shows how professional you are and what your approach will be.
Being prepared and ready to go tells the community you are serious and are willing to do the hard work it takes to make a series successful. There's nothing worse than being a couple of races into a series and discovering it's poorly run, or the RD has a lousy internet connection or the RD isn't always there when he's supposed to be there. You have to remember that the drivers are investing their time and effort in practice and getting ready for each event and it's incredibly disrespectful on the part of an RD to treat their time and commitment with contempt by being wishy washy with rules, start times etc. Most decent drivers will not tolerate this kind of behaviour and will abandon a series as a result.
I'd also suggest getting to know and using the GTPlanet OnLine Racing (OLR) Rules & Guidelines as a basis for your race series. They really do work to promote clean racing if everyone follows them and provide a clearly understood set of guidelines for on track behaviour. Rules like, "be clean and respectful" don't work in real life, everyone has a different definition of "clean"
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ITCC_Andrew
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This attitude. I like it.
I've always been for fair stewarding. It might take hours, in some cases, to see who did what wrong, even in a 13 lap race (ITCC's first and second seasons... I admit) but the fair stewarding will tell everyone that you care about the series. Because you do.
So, exactly like JP said, the OLRs are excellent.
And, regardless of whether you want a fun series, a combination, or a serious series, you should try to emphasize your viewpoint on the matter. For example, a fun series will have damage off, or on low. That way, at least, you can have close, clean racing and even if someone makes a mistake, the race isn't completely over.
So, you tell people about how the series is aimed for being fun, or about how there are prizes (normally a touch more of a serious series, but not always) or so on.
I, For example, normally join or run series which are run with good stewarding, but with fun/close racing. If you offer that, and make sure that the cars are even (because the Toyota 7 is 33 years newer than the St(r)eamliner, and much lighter,) you should have a great following.
Welcome to the world of organizing a GTP series... Where effort that goes in is what decides how well the series turns out. I spent secretive months getting specs for ITCC 4 on GT5, and when GT6 was released, I checked that the specs were even, and they still were. So, I can legitimately say that I've spent months on ITCC 4, which is a successful series (in my opinion, at least.) So, take your time and everything will turn out great. You seem like a nice, honest guy with a great idea, so you should have no problem with this.
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[Off topic from racing but on topic of the advise above]
I would like to add my 2 cents of advise as a nearly new series host if you don't mind
One thing I found is that the 1st series probably wont see great numbers of attendance, so don't expect a full grid of 16 drivers to turn up to all races, or for that matter every driver signed up. But keep it going, race every race and you will find that season 2 of the series will see the same drivers that did stick with it and collect others building up a driver base season by season.
Others may have had better success on their 1st attempt but I understand other series hosts had the same issues, some feel like calling it quits as it is not nice to put so much effort in for drivers to let you down, but keep with it and it will come together
I have also found it useful to find one (or more) of the most dedicated drivers and ask if they mind helping and maybe being a back up host and the best layed plans can go out the window (trust me
I have just had major issues with my playstation and couldn't attend my own series opener last night, and might even be out for most of the season, but the races are still going ahead so to not let the dedicated drivers down 
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I would like to add my 2 cents of advise as a nearly new series host if you don't mind
One thing I found is that the 1st series probably wont see great numbers of attendance, so don't expect a full grid of 16 drivers to turn up to all races, or for that matter every driver signed up. But keep it going, race every race and you will find that season 2 of the series will see the same drivers that did stick with it and collect others building up a driver base season by season.
Others may have had better success on their 1st attempt but I understand other series hosts had the same issues, some feel like calling it quits as it is not nice to put so much effort in for drivers to let you down, but keep with it and it will come together
I have also found it useful to find one (or more) of the most dedicated drivers and ask if they mind helping and maybe being a back up host and the best layed plans can go out the window (trust me
I have just had major issues with my playstation and couldn't attend my own series opener last night, and might even be out for most of the season, but the races are still going ahead so to not let the dedicated drivers down )
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[Off topic from racing but on topic of the advise above]
I would like to add my 2 cents of advise as a nearly new series host if you don't mind
One thing I found is that the 1st series probably wont see great numbers of attendance, so don't expect a full grid of 16 drivers to turn up to all races, or for that matter every driver signed up. But keep it going, race every race and you will find that season 2 of the series will see the same drivers that did stick with it and collect others building up a driver base season by season.
Others may have had better success on their 1st attempt but I understand other series hosts had the same issues, some feel like calling it quits as it is not nice to put so much effort in for drivers to let you down, but keep with it and it will come together
I have also found it useful to find one (or more) of the most dedicated drivers and ask if they mind helping and maybe being a back up host and the best layed plans can go out the window (trust me
Thanks, your advice helps
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ATTENTION-Open practice/testing of cars for the World Speed Championship this Saturday February 15th CHANGE-1:30 PM PST(Though this is way off for some of you, just look up the conversion on whatever fancy search engine you have and tell me if it ends up being midnight for you and I'll change it). The practice/testing will take place at the Daytona Road Course, feel free to test any
permitted car on the list that is tuned to the maximum. An exhibition race will also take place
afterwards(In the same room)that may and or may not take place on different tracks if at least
6 drivers are present in the room before the race would begin. The race duration will be 100 miles,
with at least one pit stop required. The Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption will be set at normal, as in the main event coming soon hopefully. The room will be titled GTP World Speed Championship test. When the room is opened I will post the room code number, and if there are enough
drivers present qualifying will start at 2:45 PM PST with the first race starting at 3:00 PM PST
(15 Min Qualifying) and end roughly at 3:45 PM PST. If the first race is successful and if the idea of a
second race is popular among the drivers who participated in the first race then a second race will
take place at a different track, with the same race duration of 100 miles or 100 Km depending on
the majority of the drivers' interests. In that case, practice will begin at 4:00 PM PST, Qualifying at 4:15 PM PST with the race starting at 4:30 PM PST and ending at 5:10 PM PST if the duration is 100 Miles or around 4:50-5:00 PM PST if the duration is 100 Km. I'm hoping this will jump start the preparations for the series and let more people know about this series and that it exists, though
unfortunately nobody may ever read this post. I, like I said before, want to run a not-so-lousy good series. That said, I guess I'll see you on the track...maybe.
permitted car on the list that is tuned to the maximum. An exhibition race will also take place
afterwards(In the same room)that may and or may not take place on different tracks if at least
6 drivers are present in the room before the race would begin. The race duration will be 100 miles,
with at least one pit stop required. The Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption will be set at normal, as in the main event coming soon hopefully. The room will be titled GTP World Speed Championship test. When the room is opened I will post the room code number, and if there are enough
drivers present qualifying will start at 2:45 PM PST with the first race starting at 3:00 PM PST
(15 Min Qualifying) and end roughly at 3:45 PM PST. If the first race is successful and if the idea of a
second race is popular among the drivers who participated in the first race then a second race will
take place at a different track, with the same race duration of 100 miles or 100 Km depending on
the majority of the drivers' interests. In that case, practice will begin at 4:00 PM PST, Qualifying at 4:15 PM PST with the race starting at 4:30 PM PST and ending at 5:10 PM PST if the duration is 100 Miles or around 4:50-5:00 PM PST if the duration is 100 Km. I'm hoping this will jump start the preparations for the series and let more people know about this series and that it exists, though
unfortunately nobody may ever read this post. I, like I said before, want to run a not-so-lousy good series. That said, I guess I'll see you on the track...maybe.
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Yes Yes Yes! Somebody actually wants to join! Okay. As of now, I haven't done enough testing nor is there enough
participants. I will be happy to register you, nevertheless. I just have one questions for you: Team(If you would like to join mine) Also, please come this weekend to my room titled World Speed Championship testing, to well, test. It will open at 2:00 Pm PST this Saturday. How does that sound? Feel free to test any car on the list so we can determine PP Limits.
ITCC_Andrew
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Congrats on having reformed this series into one which is beautifully organized and well-conceived. I do like these beautiful classics.
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Thanks, that means a lot 👍
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Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!
I'll probably use the 2J, btw. But I'll want to test the Type C also, but I onlyhave enough for one, and I'm afraid to buy anything because at the moment I'm not sure if I want to get the 2D if its
eligible for the WSC, which is going to begin very soon. So, yes. I'll add you to the registered teams right now and we'll decide which car we'll use when we do the testing on Saturday, which I'm sure it's the middle of the night for you right now so please post which time would work best
for you and that would be great.
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