carbs

[Shadow]

what in the flying hell is up with everybody and carbs this year?

i understand that people are making resolutions and all that other stuff to lose weight but in my view theyve taken it way way too far.

now all i ever see or hear people talking about is "carbs, carbs, carbs"

hell, even resturaunts are starting to get into the frenzy by making these "Low Carb" burgers or wraps or whatever, which looks absolutely disgusting.

What The Hell?

 

[Der Alta]

It's called the Atkins Diet, and it's been around since the early sixties. It's also blown up because of the "South Beach Diet" that is similar.

Doctors have finally accepted a low carb, high fat diet can help you lose weight.

AO

 

[Zrow]

If you ever go to Subway for the low carb Chicken Ranch Wrap, it's actually pretty good.

 

[Shadow]

Originally posted by Der Alta
It's called the Atkins Diet, and it's been around since the early sixties. It's also blown up because of the "South Beach Diet" that is similar.

Doctors have finally accepted a low carb, high fat diet can help you lose weight.

AO

i know about the Atkins Diet and stuff but i just wanted to say what i said so as to add to my disgust

low carb high fat diet..........................

 

[Klostrophobic]

I don't understand the Atkins diet. Do people know that they are just becoming more unhealthy? It can't be good to have a diet of lots and lots of red meat with no carbohydrates. Yeah, you'll lose some weight, but you aren't going to be healthy and you aren't going to have much energy.

 

[milefile]

I lost almost 40 lbs on a low carb, high protien diet. When I loosened the restrictions and started eating bread and pasta and all that stuff again I felt hungry faster and had less energy. It's really only unhealthy if you have colesterol problems. But it's definitely not good as a permanent diet.

 

[toyomatt84]

I like carbs, they make me ramen. I like ramen.

 

[Sage]

While it definitely isn't healthy to permanently be in the habit of eating large amounts of protein and few carbs (balanced diet, people!), I think it's a pretty good, effective method for weight loss. Again, as long as it isn't permanent, I don't see a problem with it.

 

[Michael K]

I too lost weight on the Atkins diet. Lost 20 pounds and I'm now at my target weight. It was difficult at first to stop eating bread, but sugary foods have never been a big deal for me so it wasn't a real problem.

Now that I've more or less reached my goal, I eat a fairly normal diet with some bread and occasionally pasta. I just dont eat any sort of refined sugar except on rare occasions.

Drawbacks? Well........yeah. The old sex drive went south about 3 weeks into the "induction" phase. But much to the wife's chagrin it went back to normal as I became accustomed to the diet.

Blood pressure and cholesterol are better than before.

 

[Duke]

I agree, I'm so bloody sick of hearing about it that I want to carry a case of potato chips around so I can force-feed a bag to every person I hear yakking incessanty about it.

Especially when it's a fat, 50-year-old secretary from Kentucky talking about "her carbs" like she's some freaking Olympic hurdler or something...

 

[VIPFREAK]

Originally posted by Der Alta
It's also blown up because of the "South Beach Diet" that is similar.

Hmm... as opposed to the North Beach Diet? I think I'd go with that one it sound better to me. Those South Beach Dieters don't look that great.

 

[TurboSmoke]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Do people know that they are just becoming more unhealthy? B]

doctors are weighing up the effects of a lifetime of obesity against a few months of low carb-high protien diet and the long term benefits make it actually a very healthy choice....assuming you keep the weight off...

weight loss (which is the goal of the atkins diet) reduces the risk of heart disease, diabetes and high blood pressure...

no one (except atkins himself) said the diet was healthy but people are not becoming more unhealthy as a result of the diet as long as they do it properly...

 

[milefile]

I forgot to mention in my post above that excercise was at least 50% of the reason I lost that weight. It probably could've happened without any, but it would've taken so long. Excercising five times a week and cutting out carbs lost me 38 lbs in four months. And I survived the holidays by only gaining 5 lbs which I lost in a week.

 

[Solid Lifters]

Originally posted by milefile
I forgot to mention in my post above that excercise was at least 50% of the reason I lost that weight. It probably could've happened without any, but it would've taken so long. Excercising five times a week and cutting out carbs lost me 38 lbs in four months. And I survived the holidays by only gaining 5 lbs which I lost in a week.

My wife tried it. She had terrible headaches and felt very weak, so she quit. My doctor told me I can't go on it, on account of my liver. Too much protein can be damaging to the liver.

Besides, if I need to loose weight, I just swim, lift and hike/walk more.

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I don't understand the Atkins diet. Do people know that they are just becoming more unhealthy? It can't be good to have a diet of lots and lots of red meat with no carbohydrates. Yeah, you'll lose some weight, but you aren't going to be healthy and you aren't going to have much energy.

You don't actually know anything about the Atkins diet, do you?

You might want to have a read of the book. It's not about lots and lots of red meat and no carbs. Initially, it's very low carb to teach the body to run on its fat stores when its hungry, and the carb content is gradually raised as the diet progresses.

It does work - if you're concerned about saturated fat (which I am) there are alternatives, like chicken and fish.

I personally think Atkins goes a bit far, but some of the points about white flour, and most particularly sugar, are particuarly relevant.

Guys, you might also want to do some research about simple and complex carbohydrates - digestion of carbs is different in the presence of fibre.

 

[Duke]

...which is why I'm increasing my rice intake a lot and reducing my potato and bread intake.

 

[TurboSmoke]

Originally posted by vat_man


It does work - if you're concerned about saturated fat (which I am) there are alternatives, like chicken and fish.

yes, i have read the book and i like to keep fit and, although i dont have a weight problem, i am very interested in food and nutrition beacuse i cycle a lot...

the atkins diet doesnt need to be be high fat, there are plently of food as vat_man suggested that are low carb and low fat...if you like vegtables like me then there are lots of healthly low carb options...


also, potatoes generally have less carbohydrate that white rice..

 

[jay wilkie]

Originally posted by neon_duke
...which is why I'm increasing my rice intake a lot and reducing my potato and bread intake.

Wait a minute , sorry if i'm being naive here.. but isn't rice high in carbs?

 

[TurboSmoke]

Eating foods like bread, rice, potatoes and pasta is actually the best way to go if you want to eat healthily and live long. Bad carbs that you should cut down on is the 'refined' simple carbs found in processed food such as beans, ketchup, tinned fruit and other sweetened products that we traditionally thought good for us.

Cutting down on the amount of carbs in general is a good idea. We only need a high carb diet if you have a very active lifestyle such as an athlete of sportsperson. Cutting down on bread and potatos a little can be a good thing for weight control if you have a sedentary lifestyle as long as you arent filling up on sugar based refined foods.

 

[Duke]

Originally posted by jay wilkie
Wait a minute , sorry if i'm being naive here.. but isn't rice high in carbs?

Yes, it is. But they are more complex carbohydrates than those found in potatoes and wheat flour, so they take more energy for your body to digest.

 

[TurboSmoke]

But they are more complex carbohydrates than those found in potatoes and wheat flour, so they take more energy for your body to digest.

This is a very confusing statement. Your body doesnt really require more energy to digest complex carbs than any other kind. Complex carbs take longer for your digestive system to break down and for its sugars to enter the blood stream, therefore you get the illusion of steady energy release rather than a blast of energy that you'll get with say chocolate which can be broken down by the digestive system in a matter of minutes. The same abount of energy is released gram for gram.

They dont take energy from your body, they PROVIDE energy.

 

[Duke]

But excess complex carbohydrates are less directly converted to fat than excess simple carbohydrates are. I didn't mean o imply that they actually take more energy to digest than they supply. If they did, I'd be eating rice by the hundredweight.

BTW I refuse to use the term "carbs" on general principle. A "carb" is a device used for metering and mixing fuel and air on certain internal combustion engines.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by neon_duke
BTW I refuse to use the term "carbs" on general principle. A "carb" is a device used for metering and mixing fuel and air on certain internal combustion engines.

👍 It is rather embarassing the way everybody thinks they're a nutritionist now.

 

[TurboSmoke]

Originally posted by milefile
👍 It is rather embarassing the way everybody thinks they're a nutritionist now.

basic nutrition is not rocket science, everyone should know it...its more embarrasing when people dont understand the fundamentals of what happens when they eat food....perhaps the epidemic in obesity is the symptom of this failure.