Chevrolet Cosworth Vega

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I know that I'm going to hear plenty of nasty comments, but I really like these!

Think of it as an American AE86, built a decade earlier.

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DOHC in an American car was unheard of in the 1970s.

"The Cosworth engine was a technically impressive piece. Its stroke had been reduced to 3.16 in (80 mm), dropping displacement to 122 cu. in. (1,995 cc), but making it both notably smoother and more eager to rev than its more mundane parent; at 305 lb (138 kg) complete, it was also about 40 lb (18 kg) lighter. Its aluminum head had dual overhead camshafts, four valves per cylinder (with about 50% more valve area than the standard Vega engine), and Bendix electronic fuel injection.

Despite all that, it was not very powerful. At its introduction, Chevy initially claimed 120 hp (90 kW), but that was hastily revised to 111, and finally 110 horsepower (82 kW) at 5,600 rpm. (On paper, the Z09 Cosworth sounded no more powerful than the carbureted L11 engine of 1971, but the latter's 110 hp was an SAE gross rating; by 1975, the L11 was rated a more realistic 87 hp (65 kW).) The Cosworth's 110 hp was not bad -- in fact, it was almost spot on the similarly sized engine in the BMW 320i, which appeared the following year -- but it was not the junior Supercar Chevy had been promising."
- http://ateupwithmotor.com/compact-and-economy-cars/195-chevrolet-vega-cosworth.html
 
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I have always liked the Vega, ANY Vega. The one with Cosworth stuff in it is just all out-sub-zero in my opinion. Asking it to be other than a good engine in a bleh car is missing the point. The fact that Chevrolet had the gumption to just sell this thing is amazing.

And they looked awesome.
 
Would be even better with the turbocharged Sierra Cosworth unit under the hood. Would give a few proper muscle cars a massive shock.
 
Why not? Chevy SBC's etc have been seen disgracing porsches, RX-7's, Lancer Evo's...
 
You did it wrong.

Why not? Chevy SBC's etc have been seen disgracing making a better breed of and raping Porsches, RX-7's, Lancer Evo's...

Thar, fixed for truth and justice.
 
There wasn't a single thing about the Vega that ever made any sense, and the Cosworth is no exception. GM seemed absolutely resolute with blowing just as much money trying to sabotage the car (unintentionally, through their own stupidity) as they did trying to make it a success.

For example, by the time the Cosworth's price had ballooned to double that of the regular car and the horsepower number fell to 2/3rds of what was originally promised, they really should have just canceled the thing. Or, at the very least, not spent 1975 and 1976 putting increasingly larger V8 engines in the Monza.
 
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Apart from the time traveling issues, a Chevy with a Ford engine?

I wasn't suggesting that Chevrolet should have taken a Ford engine from the 80s and dropped it in a 1970s car. I simply said "Would be even better with the turbocharged Sierra Cosworth unit". It was a statement of fact...
 
I wasn't suggesting that Chevrolet should have taken a Ford engine from the 80s and dropped it in a 1970s car. I simply said "Would be even better with the turbocharged Sierra Cosworth unit". It was a statement of fact...

Yeah, i realised that after i posted. But was too lazy to amend it. :dunce:

Meh, the YB is a pretty rough engine anyway, give it a small-block Chevy and be done with it.
 
What was the selling point of this thing? I'd have to imagine the base engine had about 40hp to make someone pay more for a Cosworth?!
 
What was the selling point of this thing? I'd have to imagine the base engine had about 40hp to make someone pay more for a Cosworth?!

The base was 78hp with a model in between of 87hp. Both of these had a good chunk more torque than the Cosworth one.

So the Cosworth wasn't massively more powerful, but as a percentage is was a decent hike.
 
What was the selling point of this thing?
Its confusing. GM spent oodles on the Vega engine, and asked Cosworth if they would be interested in racing with it. One thing led to another, and they decided to take the racing engine and detune it slightly for an ultra-high performance version of the Vega. Basically, a BMW 2002 competitor that would in actuality wipe the floor with basically anything on sale in America on a track.

Then it was discovered that the Vega engine was a hand grenade, so the racing program fell apart. Then GM work force went on several strikes and delayed the car by nearly two years. Then the gas crisis happened, and GM had to absolutely decimate the original power numbers that the car originally had to get the emissions under control. Then GM got so worried that the car still wouldn't pass emissions testing that they made some ill-advised changes to the engine that made it fail emissions testing spectacularly, which delayed it again. Then GM advertised it as a luxury car (or, more honestly, a really expensive economy car) rather than a BMW competitor like it was intended to be.





Ultimately, though, GM decided to sell it anyways as the "sporty" Vega. Which is what the Monza already was (for much less money, and with a much more "suitable" engine that did not have a reputation for exploding spectacularly). And by that point the Vega model in general had earned its reputation as being a complete piece of garbage. Which is why they didn't even sell all of the ones that they planned to make.
It was still a great little car for 1975 standards (it tore up amateur autocross events throughout the 1970s), but the people who wanted a BMW 2002 competitor in 1975 just went and bought a BMW 2002 or Alfa GTV.
 
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You could have the cylinder bores re-lined in cast iron, a lot of guys did that. Originally, the engines were all-aluminum, and if you let the oil get too low, they'd destroy themselves. Dad built a few engines in these, and...well...they could GO when they ran!

It really was neutered by typical '70s GM Idiocy, and I think it could have been a truly great car.

By the way...Sierra RS500 engine...Fox Body Mustang. The best idea that never happened.
 
Originally, the engines were all-aluminum, and if you let the oil get too low, they'd destroy themselves.
Or if the valve stems started falling apart. Or if the coolant ran low in the radiator. Or if the carburetors began dumping gas into the exhaust pipe. Or if it was a Tuesday. Etc.
 
Of course not! Just look at Ford Pinto.. Oh, wait.. :lol:

Well, from what I've read, even THAT was questionable. It was a bit like the Toyota "unintended Acceleration" issues from earlier this year - more speactaularism reporting than actual problem. Still, Ford did fix the issue...but never really made a true sports version of that car.

By the way, Pinto engine provided the base for previously said Sierra RS500 engine.

Also, the Gremlin.
 
AMC generally seemed to know what they were doing. They just didn't know (and/or didn't seem to care) how to make their cars mainstream.


Chrysler also had some decent compacts, but they were all rebadged Mitsubishis so they don't count.
 
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