Concerning brazilian players

[videtonator]

Hello everybody. Well, here in GT my nickname is videtonator, but in "real life" my name is Vinicius. First, I have to say sorry if I'm posting this in the wrong place, but I couldn't find any place better than here to post my text. As my signature says, I'm brazilian. And as everybody knows, brazilians have a bad fame when we talk about online games. We are commonly seen as cheaters, and many people just kick the player from an online game when see the "br" in the player's gamertag. It's sad, but I can't take the reason from who do it, because sometimes, I do it too.

First thing to be said is that there are brazilians who knows how to behave in an online match. The biggest part of the brazilians who plays an online game in the "right way" is the one who participate of online forums. There are good boards here in Brazil. I'm user from "Outerspace", one of the biggest forums here in Brazil. The users from this forum are good online players, they know how to behave in a match. But, sadly, they are a minor part of the Brazil's online players.

Here in Brazil, we have a term to classify these players. It's called "digital inclusion". The government do a lot of projects to give internet and computers to people who can't buy a computer by themselves. And most of those peoples are the bad players. They don't know how to behave. A good example is FIFA11. They use a known trick, the "L1+triangle button", which almost always end with a goal. And if they are losing, it's almost certain that they will leave in the middle of the match. And we have problems in GT5 too. I saw many players with bad cars racing in the wrong direction, just to crash against other players. This is really sad.

But the objective of this text is not to destroy with the reputation of the players here. It's just to say that there are really good players in Brazil, but they are a minor part. It's a question of education, know how to behave in some situations, and most of brazilians players don't know this. And, unfortunately, I have to say that I'm ashamed of know about my country's reputation, but know that I can't say this reputation is wrong.

Thanks by reading, and I hope you face good players in your races and online matches in general.

 

[MadmaX-US]

I have to agreed... Brazilian here too.

 

[Wonder_Pets]

No need to be ashamed. Some players get an idea about a country or region, and the people that live there, and instead of actually carrying on a conversation with these people, or giving them a chance, they just assume the worst is going to happen. I see it in FIFA11, as you do, where sometimes certain people can't get a match because of where they are from. I see it in NHL11, where a lot of people assume that because someone is from Quebec (usually their name will have a "QUE" in it somewhere...like Wonder_PetsQUE...or something)...the person is a cheater. We have to look at each other as individuals, and judge what we SEE happen from that person...not what we THINK is going to happen. It's 2011...you'd think we wouldn't have to worry about bigots and racists anymore. The sad reality is that it still happens. Hang in there bro, everything is going to be everything. Don't worry about people's preconceived ideas, just have fun and it's all gonna be good.

 

[Nightingale]

Did Brazilians have a bad reputation? I wasn't aware. I actually had the impression that Brazilians were unusually sportsmanlike, based on what I have seen online!

No matter what ethnicity you have, you'll indefinitely face a lot of blind discrimination, since Brazilians have to share the same servers with Americans and Canadians. I don't think you need to feel as though you need to apologize for the actions of Brazilian players; with us North Americans aboard, the standards are set pretty low!

 

[GT5CHECKMATE]

Well when I start a room in an open lobby (which is rare these days) my rooms fill up fast and I demand everyone have a mic and speak good English. I give a newbie to the room about 10 seconds to prove they can speak English or I boot them. Flags other than USA flags all fall under the same rules. I do this not because I don't like a certain country but because I expect good communication between all the drivers in the room. Also I find that drivers from other countries cause more lag usually. So maybe it isn't that Americians don't like Brazil, it may be that we just like playing those closer to us for reasons of lag and what not. Just my opinion.

 

[GeneralJesh]

A good example is FIFA11. They use a known trick, the "L1+triangle button", which almost always end with a goal.

You don't know how to play, deal with it also

BBRRR BRBRRR BRRRR BRRRR

 

[Mr.NSX]

I've only met one brazilian on GT5. His name was Ricardo. He was really well mannered compared to some North American online players. He was very competitive, a very talented player. He would always try to go for the pass but if he bumped you during the pass he would automatically slow down and give you the lead again. There's always bad players and good players. Nationality has nothing to do with it, in my opinion.

Mr.NSX
From Canada

 

[alonsof1fan91]

Believe me, there each country has their fair share of idiots.

Here in germany, there are tons of 13 year olds kids who like to play the big boy in games like CoD, with insulting other people etc but are to scared to do the same in real life.

 

[jorgeirado]

I am brazilian too. I think the topic's author is right about Brazil. People have to know the player, not his/her nationality.

 

[ssyd780]

Nice to get some insight about why there are so many disreputable Brazilian players online. I understand not EVERYONE is like this but it's such a disproportionately high percentage of Brazilian players that are this way compared to just about any other country. I've been petitioning the League of Legends developers for months to create a South American server because by far the worst teammates to have in that game are the Brazilians like you speak of. And since it's a free game they're incredibly numerous.

Although one such BR gave me the best insult I've ever seen on the internet. He told me to "go eat McDonalds." It gave me a chuckle because he was insulting himself as much as he was insulting me

 

[jorgeirado]

Nice to get some insight about why there are so many disreputable Brazilian players online. I understand not EVERYONE is like this but it's such a disproportionately high percentage of Brazilian players that are this way compared to just about any other country. I've been petitioning the League of Legends developers for months to create a South American server because by far the worst teammates to have in that game are the Brazilians like you speak of. And since it's a free game they're incredibly numerous.

Although one such BR gave me the best insult I've ever seen on the internet. He told me to "go eat McDonalds." It gave me a chuckle because he was insulting himself as much as he was insulting me

Free game?

 

[BigMackAttack]

I just need to know why all of the "bad" Brazilian Gamers all have the same "HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE" laugh.

 

[Coxis]

I've matched against incredibly skilled brazilians, but also dirty, cheap brazilians, unfortunately.

The upside is that the good brazilians are REALLY good.

 

[tuga703]

I just need to know why all of the "bad" Brazilian Gamers all have the same "HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE" laugh.

Yeah I don't understand different contries have different laughing 'onomatopia' online.


From my experience online where i have played in quite a few games which server's are flooded with brazilians they are either very good, fair skilled players, or they sadly are 🤬 scammers 🤬 unfair 🤬 players.

 

[kuyaglen]

And as everybody knows, brazilians have a bad fame when we talk about online games. We are commonly seen as cheaters, and many people just kick the player from an online game when see the "br" in the player's gamertag.

This is news to me.

 

[Joker-GTBR]

Most Brazilian players i race against are fair play drivers (most from the group which will make the Official Brazilian GT5 Championship, with official Sony support, they have very strict rules about misconducts). I only had problems with people "checking me" into the wall when i'm trying to pass or people using shortcuts during practice sessions.

 

[xNEVER-ONEx]

I usually vote Brazilians because they tend to lag in my room, but apart from that, I think they are good drivers.

 

[VicioustC]

Wasn't aware of this as I've raced in a few Brazilian rooms and they were good drivers for the most part. I have run into some real douche players from Germany, Canada, and Japan so to ostracize a particular country for bad driving would be a little silly.

 

[themartlab]

I've only met one brazilian on GT5. His name was Ricardo. He was really well mannered compared to some North American online players. He was very competitive, a very talented player. He would always try to go for the pass but if he bumped you during the pass he would automatically slow down and give you the lead again. There's always bad players and good players. Nationality has nothing to do with it, in my opinion.

Mr.NSX
From Canada

Exactly! Idiots don't care about borders! They're everywhere! I was kicked from a canada room yesterday, I was doing the glitch and these few kids, which I know because of their soprano voices, were voting to kick me because i was first.

 

[the.true.samiam]

If you see me hosting a room, you can rest assured I will not kick you without a very good reason. Even those who drive like idiots get fair warning before I kick them, and a chance to explain a given situation. After all, although I may believe I know what happened, it is not possible to see everything.

Even when people jump in an X1 in my rooms, that is not an automatic kick like it is elsewhere. I will admit that I will watch them closely from the lounge, but if they are running clean, I don't boot them. If they're not running clean, I make them aware of the rules and give them the benefit of the doubt. Only if they still behave in a way that's detrimental to others after all this will I kick them.

I certainly would never arbitrarily (sic?) kick somebody because they come from Brazil, or any country for that matter. So if I have a room up, please feel that you are welcome to join for some clean, fun driving!

 

[Rod Carvalho]

I'm brazillian and don't agree. Every country in the world has its fraction of idiots, cheaters and cheap players. You don't need to have that underdog feeling about Brazil.

I think the main issue regarding brazillian players, as we don't have Sony South America support most of us are forced to use US or European flags making us fall into non South American servers. I've been kicked from servers a few times due to lag reasons, altough I have very high speed connection, it is not enough to play a smooth game on North American severs.

 

[khain]

I just need to know why all of the "bad" Brazilian Gamers all have the same "HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE" laugh.

What? You mean that laugh? "HAEUHAUEHAUEHA" That's 'cause is how we represent it in our idiom.

 

[khain]

Just completing my thought. We tend tend to have some lag issues when playing with people from other countries that are far from ours. The main problem I see is people that don't know how to drive and quit the race when they got passed or spinned. But it's not a brazilian problem only, all serious drivers know what I'm meaning.

Another thing is the idiom problem. Most of us has ridiculous skills in english (problably my texts are full of mistakes). The english we learn at school is a ****, so we have to look for english classe somewhere to really learn it. It's really hard to be in a room that you can't talk to others. My english is far from being perfect, but I have no problem understanding what you all are saying. I can understand you almost perfectly, otherwise my conversation is not too good 'cause I don't have people to pratice it, but I can talk the necessary when needed.

That's one of the reasons I think some players don't like us to be in their rooms.

 

[Hastatus]

Every country has good and bad players...I'm an equal opportunity kicker: I'll kick someone for driving dirty and lagging (including intermittent wireless) whether they're from France, Brazil, Japan, North America, but I will kick a higher proportion of south Americans than North Americans because they are so much further away they will have much more innate lag.

When I search for games I use the "NA" option and never ever look elsewhere. I can only assume that South Americans, Europeans, Asians have their own respective regional option, so what motivates those players to search for rooms on the other side of the planet? (In the case of South American players, it cannot have anything to do with differing timezones).

I have a hard enough time finding North American rooms with 5 star and 5 bars, and can only assume that if I were to search South American rooms I wouldn't find anything better, so those foreign players coming to my room likely see almost no bars when they enter my room.

The fact is that I know that there are well enough North American players to fill my room and there are enough Brazilian players to make their own rooms so I don't feel bad when I kick a laggy one from mine.

I have never kicked any south American players thinking they had a bad reputation for cheating, only a bad reputation for lagging: and the flag next to your name confirms why you are lagging when you do.

 

[videtonator]

Good to see that brazilians GT player aren't messing up with the game. I posted this text because I was at my friend's house, and his gamertag has a "br" at the end. And when we started to play GT online, we got kicked from the room because of the "br".

And it's good to see so many brazilians here. There's plenty of GT fans here in Brazil.

And to Hastatus, you asked "what motivates those players to search for rooms on the other side of the planet?". Well, we don't have PSN officialy here, so, we can use South America servers, but we can't access demos, videos, PSstore in general with a brazilians accont. That's why so many brazilian player use accounts from another country.

 

[khain]

Hastatus I agree with your point. But not always we lag when playing. A good example is a friend of mine that lives in NYC. We always play together, sometimes I'm the host, sometimes him. We never got a lag problem. I already played with some americans, they didn't complain about that.

So the lag problem isn't a pattern, it is isolated cases. But I understand your point.

 

[Joker-GTBR]

Worst for me is playing in a Brazilian room and being confunded as a non-Brazilian because of my username and the fact i use a Portuguese account (repeat: there is no PSN in Brazil)

 

[ivoyared]

I just need to know why all of the "bad" Brazilian Gamers all have the same "HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE HUE" laugh.

Actually, is UEHAUEUAUEUAEHUA. You are lucky because we have quite bad laughs (the worse is KPASKOPASKOPASKOPASKOPAKSOPK)

Most of the bad brazilian players are playing CS, Tibia, Ragnarok, [insert your silly MMO here]... I've never had a problem with any player in GT5.

 

[shawnjets]

All I know is thank god for Brazilian women...

Juliana Salimeni...oh god

 

[Barra333]

When I search for games I use the "NA" option and never ever look elsewhere. I can only assume that South Americans, Europeans, Asians have their own respective regional option, so what motivates those players to search for rooms on the other side of the planet? (In the case of South American players, it cannot have anything to do with differing timezones).

I have a hard enough time finding North American rooms with 5 star and 5 bars, and can only assume that if I were to search South American rooms I wouldn't find anything better, so those foreign players coming to my room likely see almost no bars when they enter my room.

The fact is that I know that there are well enough North American players to fill my room and there are enough Brazilian players to make their own rooms so I don't feel bad when I kick a laggy one from mine.

I have never kicked any south American players thinking they had a bad reputation for cheating, only a bad reputation for lagging: and the flag next to your name confirms why you are lagging when you do.

There are only 2 zones to filter by - you have your Americas (NTSC), which may include Japan, I'm not sure, and the rest. So when I go online, depending on the time of day, the vast majority of rooms in my "region" may come from Europe or the Middle East (seem to see lots of Saudis). At the same time, I have had good, lag free races against Brits, but horrid lag against other Aussies. The only person I have kicked, or seen kicked for lag was a South African in a room containing half Aussies, half EU.

I really think connection quality, not distance has a bigger impact.

On topic - its a shame that people feel the need to exclude a player based on location/reputation of the country. I have seen morons in equal numbers from several countries online. Much like the idiots that post crap around here hail from a variety of locations (general comment, not at anyone in this thread)