Controller drifting tips

Can anyone give me tips on drifting using the controller. Im usen a 350z 08 and when i go into the turn the car wont slide at all just sorta sticks and when i do get it to slide it just does a 360 because the tires smoke to much. So im looking for some tips if possible
 
How much power does it have and what tires are you using? If you're just starting out drifting, try it completely stock first on comfort hard tires. Then make sure all driving aids are off. (ABS preferred to be on however, at least while starting out) If you're using automatic, switch to manual and upgrade your drivetrain components. Lastly, depending on how your controls are, L2/R2 for shifting, I'd suggest remapping R1 to be used as e-brake.

As for the actual drifting part... you don't have to go at top speed with the pedal to the floor through the entire corner unless that's your only way to power through. Practice going through a turn and breaking traction then let go and watch the car. Next, go through same corner, break traction, release the gas and countersteer, watching the car again. Now start applying power through it and adjusting your steering/throttle to compensate for any miscalculations or angle alignment.

Hope this helps! Oh, final tip: visualize clipping points, and dive nose at them.
 
First of all, please use comfort HARD tires to drift

I've seen alot of people pull the hand brake so late that the car ran almost half way in the corner and start the slide, 60% of the times they failed, end up flied off track or spun

Please do the initial WAY BEFORE the corner, use the hand brake to control ur angle, use the angle to assist the brake to slow down the car, and use throttle control to keep the car on the line. The car will feel much more easier and natural to handle this way, remember, don't counter too much while initial.

Well it's quite difficult to explain this by words, but i think u'll eventually get after practice

*I use Controller
 
ah one more thing, i personally don't suggest to drift a stock car, please at least tune the clutch, or else the sudden lag while changing gear will kill ur drift

I suggest cars with 300-500hp, 1100kg-1500kg
 
In automatic it doesn't matter if the clutch is upgraded as the car will never shift until it regrips. :P Thus why I mentioned upgrading drivetrain components for manual shifting. ;)

I've also noticed that it isn't so much HP that I look for when selecting if/which power upgrades I want/need, but moreso torque. For my style, anything between 250-350 torque is optimal, and weight around 1250kg being easily controllable as some cars may not even go below that number.
 
First of all, please use comfort HARD tires to drift
Why would you give someone such subjective advice? That's like saying "Please use a red car!" Personally, I can't stand comfort hards. It feels like drifting on ice, but to each their own. He should probably use comfort tires for learning on, but comfort hards might be excessively forgiving for teaching good driving habits. If he uses comfort hards, he should not use them exclusively or he won't develop very good skill.

As far as actual advice, it sounds like you are just hitting the usual problems for a beginner drifter. It just takes practice. Like Brandon said, the best way to learn is by experimenting. You don't generally go full throttle through the whole corner. Try entering a drift and as soon as you get it sideways let go of the throttle. Watch how long it slides before it snaps out of the drift. How long it slides will depend on how hard you "threw" the car into the drift, or how harsh your weight transition was.

Now try again, but this time, get back on the throttle again right before it's about to snap out of the drift. If you time it right, you can catch the car. Drifting is a constant balance, you have to anticipate the car and counteract its forces. The stiffer the suspension, the faster you have to react to the subtle weight transitions of the car's body. I think 350's are pretty rigid naturally, so keep that in mind. Probably not the best learning car.
 
one piece of advice i can give is to change the controller layout as the "X" button doesnt give much for pressure. i use L2 for brake and R2 for gas and L1 for the e-brake. being a controller drifter, that has helped GREATLY.
 
I use r2 for gas l2 brake r1 shift up l1 shift down and square as ebrake

i used the setup inuakki used for his 08 350 it worked ok but not the best. i think it might just be user error cause i would brake hard into the corner instead of early i believe idk ill try again tonight but tips def help so thanks guys
 
Why would you give someone such subjective advice? That's like saying "Please use a red car!" Personally, I can't stand comfort hards. It feels like drifting on ice, but to each their own. He should probably use comfort tires for learning on, but comfort hards might be excessively forgiving for teaching good driving habits. If he uses comfort hards, he should not use them exclusively or he won't develop very good skill.

As far as actual advice, it sounds like you are just hitting the usual problems for a beginner drifter. It just takes practice. Like Brandon said, the best way to learn is by experimenting. You don't generally go full throttle through the whole corner. Try entering a drift and as soon as you get it sideways let go of the throttle. Watch how long it slides before it snaps out of the drift. How long it slides will depend on how hard you "threw" the car into the drift, or how harsh your weight transition was.

Now try again, but this time, get back on the throttle again right before it's about to snap out of the drift. If you time it right, you can catch the car. Drifting is a constant balance, you have to anticipate the car and counteract its forces. The stiffer the suspension, the faster you have to react to the subtle weight transitions of the car's body. I think 350's are pretty rigid naturally, so keep that in mind. Probably not the best learning car.

Well, when drifting on a long corner with grippy tires, many people often shoot out to the opposite direction of the corner because their front wheel regain traction too suddenly, another thing is that drifting comfort hard tires don't require that much speed, u stay at the corners longer, therefore u get more time to feel the car movements, so i think it's good for beginners.

The performance of grippy tires in GT is quite wrong, in real life, the driftng speed between street tires and sport tires are far not as significant as GT.

Once u're able to master comfort hard, it didn't take long to learn other tires because u already gain the skill on controlling the throttle, its the basic that everyone need to learn. I'm not forcing u to use it, it's just a strong recommendation.

My english is not that good, forgive me if i said something bad and didn't noticed
and I don't mind to do some demonstrations for drifting
 
People will understand either :) Anyway yeah it may have just been a translation thing. I see your point now. I thought you meant to always use them, which seems to be a common opinion and that's why I reacted strongly. However, you're right, they can be useful for learning because like you said it's slower and more forgiving. Thanks!
 
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