Correcting Oversteer

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I realize that the correction of overstate is specific to ever car. However I'm curious what settings help with correcting this (i.e. Suspension and LSD settings). Also is there going to be a completely different type of setup for FR cars rather than MR cars?
 
I think it'd depend on when and why you're oversteering, but softening the rear suspension, lowering the rear suspenion, increasing rear camber, increase toe in can all reduce oversteer (all relative to the front suspension).

There will be differences between different car layouts because of where the weight is balanced at (front versus middle versus rear).
 
also keep in mind a heavy foot (or heavy on the gas button) in a high torque car can be sometimes confused with oversteer due to setup when exiting a corner.
 
You should also figure out if the oversteer is caused by wheelspin or just lack of cornering grip. Increasing rear camber decreases straight-line grip and can cause oversteer in high torque cars.
 
Temetias.
You should also figure out if the oversteer is caused by wheelspin or just lack of cornering grip. Increasing rear camber decreases straight-line grip and can cause oversteer in high torque cars.

Camber can cause oversteer? Do you mean excessive camber or camber in general?
 
I think if you set the camber in the rear to around 1.0 and try the toe angle flat at 0, you can go from there and do slight adjustments. Usually if you try great values in one direction to the other (-80 toe +80) you'll notice how the car behaves.
 
Camber can cause oversteer? Do you mean excessive camber or camber in general?

Depends on the power of the car. Normally <1.5 camber can't cause oversteer. In extreme cases, where the oversteer is purely caused by massive wheelspin, camber can in fact, not cause, but increase wheelspin and therefore oversteer. But even in high power, low grip, RWD car rear camber is definatly needed. It's just more critical to set it correctly. :)
 
Temetias.
Depends on the power of the car. Normally <1.5 camber can't cause oversteer. In extreme cases, where the oversteer is purely caused by massive wheelspin, camber can in fact, not cause, but increase wheelspin and therefore oversteer. But even in high power, low grip, RWD car rear camber is definatly needed. It's just more critical to set it correctly. :)

So camber would only cause oversteer if it causes a loss of grip in a car with a lot of power that spins the wheels?
 
Raise your braking and acceleration sensitivity. Do it 5 points at a time and go out and do 2 laps with the car. tuning takes patience. keep initial torque a 10.

It is extremely important that you fix the LSD before you start tinkering with the suspension. the LSD will work wonders.
 
Dont raise the braking sensitivity he has no idea what he is talking about.

and BTW man, having lower - mid LSD settings causes the most oversteer. Both maxxed out and you will start to understeer while beinng able to get the back end out easy due to being very locked.

2 different things.
 
Dont raise the braking sensitivity he has no idea what he is talking about.

and BTW man, having lower - mid LSD settings causes the most oversteer. Both maxxed out and you will start to understeer while beinng able to get the back end out easy due to being very locked.

2 different things.

What are you even saying. maybe you dont know what your saying.

He said the car was oversteery. That could be on corner entry or corner exit.

increasing Braking sensitivity will fix corner entry oversteer and accelerations sensitivity will fix corner exit oversteer.
 
Oversteer into a corner under heavy braking? Never seen one case where this is not good.

Increasing Accel sens makes it lock up more. Which would just make your back end kick out if you have too much power.

Im not even going to get into LSD settings because Ill just get choked so nevermind.
 
Don't worry dude one thing I learned on this forum was completely ignore Poppins. You've got it right on and the OP should listen to you and just flat disregard Poppins.
 
Don't worry dude one thing I learned on this forum was completely ignore Poppins. You've got it right on and the OP should listen to you and just flat disregard Poppins.

Seconded.

But, just for giggles...
Poppins
Oversteer into a corner under heavy braking? Never seen one case where this is not good.
Except for when that rear end drags your entire car off the track.
You use more blanket statements than anyone on this forum.
Take the RUF CTR "Yellow Bird" '87 for a ride on Sport Softs, then get back to me on oversteer on entry never being a bad thing.

having lower - mid LSD settings causes the most oversteer. Both maxxed out and you will start to understeer
You need to understand that your experiences are not universal, nor are your definitions of under/oversteer. What may feel 'loose' to you, can be tight to someone else's driving habits. You can't blindly say "This LSD number causes understeer" because it doesn't work like that. For me, the MOST oversteer, is Accel at 60. The way I drive, your theories do not apply. This is why we criticize you. You like to think that everything can be black and white "this number is best" theories will continue to be ignored, because 'best' will be different for every type of driver, on every type of track, on every type of car, combined with every suspension AND transmission adjustment. That's BEFORE you even take the engine's torque curve into effect, and adjustments that may be beneficial when raising and lowering the car's HP to compensate for the gained or lost traction.

Way, way, way too many variables and as long as you continue to ignore them, you will continue to be ridiculed for it. I'm glad you've found a system that works for you, but do not make the mistake that it's the end all be all for every tuner and driver on this website, because you're dead wrong.
 

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