Crossfire causing slow shut down speed?

[Shaun]

Hey guys.
Recently I installed another 7850 into my new build. Now my computer shuts down alot slower than previously. Performance wise it seems fine, I checked with 3DMark II prior to and after installation and the score vastly improved.

A couple of observations on my behalf.

In the Catalyst Control Centre it's as though the second card isn't recognised until it's required. By this I mean it shows no activity or temps for example. If I manually set the fan speed through ccc it doesn't do anything until when I assume the card is needed and the then the fan ramps up to the speed I set.

I disabled crossfire and re-enabled it and ccc saw it there and allowed me to change the fan speed. At this stage I restarted my computer and shut down was fast again. On reboot it didn't recognise the card again and turning Crossfire off/on wont change it again.

I've uninstalled the drivers and used driver cleaner pro and after a new driver install the problem still exists. I'm using 12.6 and wonder if there is a problem with it or is this normal? All I can think of trying is to find version 12.4 and try that.

Any ideas or am I chasing my tail here?

Cheers Shaun.

 

[Terronium-12]

That's a tad bit strange. After you installed the 12.6 drivers were there any errors at the "Finished" window (notified with a caution symbol of sorts), or was it all green?

When you open up Catalyst and go over to performance you should be able to select either of the two cards from a dropdown menu: I assume that's available to you?

Two things I can think of right now is try running each card by themselves and see if there's a problem there; you'll need to un-install and re-install for each instance. Or what you can do right now is open up the device manager and see if there's anything worth taking note of for the display adapters. You'll know when something is wrong if there's a caution symbol next to anything there. I'm not too familiar with Crossfire impeding shut down or restart times, but I am familiar with it not running as well as you think it should on some games... but that's neither here nor there.

 

[Shaun]

No errors after installation.

I can access both cards via the drop down menu, apart from that one time I can't seem to change the fan speed manually. When I run 3DMARK II it shows any change that I do make as working. For example I overclocked both cards a bit and 3DMARK II reflects this in the results.

It had crossed my mind to remove one card at a time but I was hoping I may not have to. First I'll probably try 12.4 and 12.7 beta to see what happens.

I'll check device manager also later (at work atm). Thanks mate.

Cheers Shaun.

 

[Shaun]

Delete.

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

http://www.overclock.net/t/667144/crossfire-disabling-ulps/0_20

Try that.

If that doesn't work then make an account on there and post up.

Also, good choice on dual 7850's! Those beast over a 680 at a cheaper price!

 

[Shaun]

Thanks zOo I'll have a look at work that after work tonight.

Last night I thought I found the culprit. After trying all above, 12.4,12.7 beta didn't work. Each card on it's own was fine in both slots.

So I went msconfig/startup to look for the culprit. I disabled half of the processes at startup and the problem went away. On closer inspection I found a cmd/c..........amd video enchancer or something along these lines (sorry I can't remember exactly). I then enabled everything again except this and after a few restarts all was still good.

After a while though the issue comes back. Something must be triggering it to start. A bit more investigating is needed to find out what starts it.

A quick Google leads me to believe it's some sort of bloatware in the AMD drivers. When you go custom install does anyone know what are the only required parts to install? I've been letting it do it's own thing in express install which installs the whole lot.

@T12 if your interested you will be able to see the whole cmd line in my edited post. In my euphoria I posted what I found was the fix. When the issue came back I cracked the sads edited the post and went to bed .

Cheers Shaun.

 

[tlowr4]

In all honesty (note I havn't read all the posts, just throwing this out there) I think it's just AMD's drivers overall. As a whole, they suck royal buttocks. The cards are great, but it's just a 'thing' that AMD has had ever since they bought out ATI.

One question though, is shutdown speeds really of priority to you? I could understand if it was a laptop and you had to get it downed and out before you closed it and moved on, but as a desktop, bootups and shutdowns are userally set and forget type things. Or is this a situation of, minutes worth of change, or just being picky (much like myself ).

 

[Shaun]

Shutdown speed in itself isn't a huge issue. It's gone from literally seconds to about a minute. Only time it's annoying is when I have to do multiple restarts with software installations and what not.

In reality it's a first world problem. Thing is I would like to know what is causing it to make sure there is no underlying issue, that and I'm fussy. .

Cheers Shaun.

 

[bergauk]

In all honesty (note I havn't read all the posts, just throwing this out there) I think it's just AMD's drivers overall. As a whole, they suck royal buttocks. The cards are great, but it's just a 'thing' that AMD has had ever since they bought out ATI.

Yeah ok, and Nvidia SLI is great at scaling AND has the stable-ist drivers ever.

There is no "best" choice. It might be his cards coming from a certain manufacturer that hasn't been optimized for the drivers.

Give me a break, you probably didn't even have the ability to buy a computer in '06, how could you know about their drivers then? I was 16 then and I didn't even know or care about that stuff yet. How could you?


Bottom line is this, why in the world does the OP need to worry about SHUTDOWN times? He doesn't. There's nothing wrong with a long shutdown procedure. If you have a ton of stuff going on in the background when you shut it down, it has to close each program safely. It'll take a while..

 

[Shaun]

http://www.overclock.net/t/667144/crossfire-disabling-ulps/0_20

Try that.

If that doesn't work then make an account on there and post up.

Also, good choice on dual 7850's! Those beast over a 680 at a cheaper price!

Thanks mate, that done the trick.
Appreciate the help. 👍

Bottom line is this, why in the world does the OP need to worry about SHUTDOWN times? He doesn't. There's nothing wrong with a long shutdown procedure. If you have a ton of stuff going on in the background when you shut it down, it has to close each program safely. It'll take a while..

You did read this didn't you.
It was the post right above yours.

Shutdown speed in itself isn't a huge issue. It's gone from literally seconds to about a minute. Only time it's annoying is when I have to do multiple restarts with software installations and what not.

In reality it's a first world problem. Thing is I would like to know what is causing it to make sure there is no underlying issue, that and I'm fussy. .

Cheers Shaun.

Just incase you didn't or somehow had a problem comprehending it I've bolded the important part.

Cheers Shaun.

 

[Terronium-12]

Play nicely.

ULPS... that was a good call, one I never would have thought to bring up. Glad it's been sorted out.

 

[Sharky.]

Having ULPS enabled with Crossfire active also has the strange side-effect of making the playback/recording device control panels open extremely slowly - often a minute or more - so although I've never experienced abnormally long shutdown times (startup times are another matter ) I'm not all that surprised ULPS was the culprit.

 

[II-zOoLoGy-II]

Thanks mate, that done the trick.
Appreciate the help. 👍

You did read this didn't you.
It was the post right above yours.

Just incase you didn't or somehow had a problem comprehending it I've bolded the important part.

Cheers Shaun.

No problem man. Glad to help.