Crowding and Blocking

[djhedges]

Most of the racing I've seen has been relatively clean. Last night I had a race on Dragon Tail which really caught me off guard.

The first behavior was crowding. I exited the chicane a few times with ample amounts of speed for a pass. They would squeeze me towards the inside instead of staying on the racing line. Very akin to this.


The second was blatant blocking. I'm not talking about coming off line to block a pass. I'm talking about moving offline just as I'm about to pass so that I tap their bumper. I learned to fake going left and pull out right for the pass. Or wait for them to blow their brake point because they're driving with their mirrors.

I came across this study which echos the crashing behavior. I've come to the conclusion it's better to yield an overtake than risk crashing out simply for one position.

Findings show that drivers crash their vehicles with greater frequency when their positions are increasingly at risk of displacement by their nearby, lower-ranked counterparts;​

http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.2189/asqu.52.2.208

I hope this style of driving doesn't catch on.

 

[ASH32]

It's way more prevalent in the shorter races, the 4 or less lap races just encourage this. You don't have time to be patient and so blocking can make someone go for a silly overtake too so the blocker wins.

 

[Shottah072]

It's way more prevalent in the shorter races, the 4 or less lap races just encourage this. You don't have time to be patient and so blocking can make someone go for a silly overtake too so the blocker wins.

I stay away from the short races as much as possible for this reason. People attack and defend way to hard in these short races.

 

[TenderLoins]

Silly overtake attemts happen constantly whether you’re blocking or not.

 

[ASH32]

Silly overtake attemts happen constantly whether you’re blocking or not.

Yes but blocking causes even the most sensible and clean drivers to do dumb things and some times you have almost no choice as someone driving a blocking line slows you down so much that you suddenly have multiple cars behind you too. Usually one will then get through so the blocker loses a position anyway, it's just very frustrating.

 

[ScottPuss20]

These acts are all around in the shorter races. It can get very crazy very quickly, yet I've had a few longer races where I had to deal with idiots blocking and crowding. As well as bumping me carelessly.

 

[danthespam]

I think there is a lot of this going on for sure, but also it may have a lot to do with the ridiculous rear mirror, which makes cars seem a second behind despite being right on your tail... I’ve moved across on a straight to defend my line after a poor exit only to find the car behind far too close for comfort on a few occasions...

 

[Tidgney]

but also it may have a lot to do with the ridiculous rear mirror,

I'd love a rear view mirror ! Not sure why roof/bonnet cam doesn't have 1 and bumper does ! Radar is a bit similar in that sense though but the opposite way round (Or at least what I find).

 

[Gravitron]

I'd love a rear view mirror ! Not sure why roof/bonnet cam doesn't have 1 and bumper does ! Radar is a bit similar in that sense though but the opposite way round (Or at least what I find).

Because Kaz thinks you would be unstoppable if you had a mirror!

https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-e3-multiclass-racing-customized-race-suits-another-beta/

I agree with you, it's ridiculous.

 

[LNSE492]

It's stupid not to. It's an online racer with an emphasis on being clean and fair, that doesn't give every viewpoint the ability to see what's going on behind. It probably contributes to a large percentage of the genuine incidents between players. Twice today I turned in on people I had no idea would be making a lunge.

The radar is only so much use - if they dive in from miles back, it tells you nothing because you're focussed on the corner once you've given it a quick glance before braking and they simply won't be shown on the radar. I think it's quickly becoming my biggest annoyance with the game.

 

[Shottah072]

Because Kaz thinks you would be unstoppable if you had a mirror!

https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-e3-multiclass-racing-customized-race-suits-another-beta/

I agree with you, it's ridiculous.

i mainly drive the gr.3 Porsche. 1 because it is fast and a nice drive but 2 because it has an actual usable mirror cam in its dashboard. And its positioned right where the radar sits so i can see behind and the radar in 1 glance. Virtual mirrors should be available for all views.

 

[ZnA1209]

In my experience, the blockers and crowders tend to drive badly and end up making numerous off track excursions which let me pass them anyway.

 

[Tidgney]

Because Kaz thinks you would be unstoppable if you had a mirror!

https://www.gtplanet.net/kazunori-yamauchi-e3-multiclass-racing-customized-race-suits-another-beta/

I agree with you, it's ridiculous.

O wow, so that's the reason! I wouldn't say it's easier but different but I bet it contributes to the accidents for those that do use it. So Kaz or PD if you're listening (You read my mind with the last BoPs with regards to the car I was in) can we have a rear view on all cameras that can be enabled disabled please ! I'm honestly looking behind going round corners some times and flashing backwards 5/6 times on a straight. In fact it's become so annoying as I do it when I'm doing a practice laps and I'm on my own racing round the track to haha!

Some will be genuine mistakes of people not seeing them as they don't have a rear view, others will be genuine crowding out. I don't disagree with crowding out in a video game (I do in real life just due to the risk to injury if it goes wrong) as I've experienced it being done to me. As longs no contact happens and there's respect between them both when they get to the corner I think it's ok. That being said unless it's a major race I wouldn't do it personally as Sport mode is meant to be fun. Some of the esport races I've been in and seen have had this happen and it's made it really exciting !

(I'm right to say crowding is just leaving a car widths room on the track right?)

Blocking I completely disagree with if you are forcing yourself in front of another car to gain a speed boost or just stop them passing that's wrong.