Cutting corners.

[DOUQA]

Does anybody know the rules regarding cutting corners or hooking your inside wheel/s on the kerbs? The game allows it but surely its cheating.Ive read that some people were disqualified from the first GT Academy but I cant imagine every single replay gets reviewed. You could gain so much time by cutting that turn leading back out onto the speedway, as many have demonstrated.

 

[juniordee]

Definitely illegal in real life, don't know if PD will judge.

 

[profi]

Does anybody know the rules regarding cutting corners or hooking your inside wheel/s on the kerbs? The game allows it but surely its cheating.Ive read that some people were disqualified from the first GT Academy but I cant imagine every single replay gets reviewed. You could gain so much time by cutting that turn leading back out onto the speedway, as many have demonstrated.

If the game does not penalize you for a particular cutting/kerb ride...

ITS LEGAL

Try to move up on the leaderboards if you can gain so much time with that...

 

[evilfoxhound]

I'm actually quite shocked with how much you can cut a corner in this without being penalised.

Maybe i'm just used to Forza 3 which invalideted your lap for even looking at the rumble strip with your eyes lol.

 

[profi]

I'm actually quite shocked with how much you can cut a corner in this without being penalised.

Its simple... it does not improve your laptime...

 

[evilfoxhound]

Its simple... it does not improve your laptime...

It does for me.

Maybe you aren't doing it right

 

[Dave A]

They will view the top 20 laps, if anyone has got a fast lap by driving illegaly then their time will be discounted and they will look at the 21st fastest time. They won't look at every single lap on the leaderboard, only thoes that have qualified for the GT academy.

 

[Brecht]

The last corner before you go on the banking is the one where you can lose it or win it. You can realy win a lot off time by cutting the inside. I only go with the car on the white part on the inside of the curb, not the grass.

 

[kekke2000]

I dont think cutting the corners a bit makes a better time. Just look at the leaderboard. Top drivers there doesn't cut corners.

 

[Lernatix]

Bollocks, top time in standard car includes a 4 tyres off cut.
Not to mention the issue with traction control.
If I HAVE to use a wheel with the traction control off
and clutch boost every gear change and 4 wheel
cut every corner to win, the I don't want to win.
Driving like that will only end in black flags, drive
throughs and broken clutches in the REAL world.

 

[AzRimGT]

I wouldn't recommend cutting corners for anyone even a bit serious about this game. Even if I got a better time, my conscience would eat me. I consider it sort of cheating.

 

[nobuffalo]

Imagine being in first place at the completion of the contest, yet when they judge the laps that their system validated they decide it's not a clean lap and you're disqualified. Is that fair? I have failed to see any rules that claim you cannot put 2 wheels or even 4 for that matter into the grass.

As far as this clutch boost please explain, I haven't seen any sign of it yet.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

Cutting through the grass with all 4 tires should result in the spontaenous combusting of your controller or wheel.

 

[Jay]

The last corner (of the infield) has a lot of concrete, it seems it is legal unless you clip your left tyres over the, I don't think they will disqualify you for that.

and clutch boost every gear change and 4 wheel

Clutch does not function in this time trial.

 

[cjmodiano]

Hey guys, don't worry about standards and practices of other types of racing series. This is two cars and one lap, and you do what it takes to get the top time. It's the same for everybody, so you have no excuse to not do it. It's not about realism. If you do a crazy cut where all 4 wheels are on the grass, you don't go fast. If you cut it right, you gain time. If you're fast, you'll be fast. If you're slow, you'll be slow. Also, I've done some cuts in the game where my time turns red, and I assume is invalid, so you can't go too over the top with it anyway, as GT will invalidate the time its self.

 

[Paulie]

On the last corner, if your outside wheels get inside the kerb on the cement the lap is invalidated anyway, there are no areas you can shortcut without getting penalised (thank goodness).

 

[Chadwicksracing]

Just because the game lets you cut the corner, doesn't mean that its legal. If anyone remembers last years GT A? You can be DQ'ed for that kind of driving!

 

[Nauraushaun]

Its simple... it does not improve your laptime...

Actually it simply does. It's only logical to say it does. You're effectively reducing the severity of the corner, shortening how far you have to travel, and reducing the amount of Gs acting on the car.

They will view the top 20 laps, if anyone has got a fast lap by driving illegaly then their time will be discounted and they will look at the 21st fastest time. They won't look at every single lap on the leaderboard, only thoes that have qualified for the GT academy.

I don't know about that. They've got a penalty system, I reckon if they wanted people not to cut corners they'd have stepped it up. I reckon all we can assume is that the penalty system governs whether or not your lap is legal. If it's legal, it should be legal for the competition. If a valid lap is illegal, why bother including a penalty system at all?

 

[nobuffalo]

So...basically if you set a record but do something illegal and then are not able to beat that time you're screwed, because thats the lap that will be used.

edit: Can anyone else see the problem this could cause?

 

[Jay]

I don't know about that. They've got a penalty system, I reckon if they wanted people not to cut corners they'd have stepped it up. I reckon all we can assume is that the penalty system governs whether or not your lap is legal. If it's legal, it should be legal for the competition. If a valid lap is illegal, why bother including a penalty system at all?

They will check the laps, doesn't mean they will take any action for those corners though. I think it will have more to do with finding genuine glitches that led to a advantage.

 

[Nauraushaun]

I dont think cutting the corners a bit makes a better time. Just look at the leaderboard. Top drivers there doesn't cut corners.

Untrue. I just watched the replay for the number 1 in the tuned car, he cut the last corner by as much as is possible.

 

[Perkel]

Imagine being in first place at the completion of the contest, yet when they judge the laps that their system validated they decide it's not a clean lap and you're disqualified. Is that fair? I have failed to see any rules that claim you cannot put 2 wheels or even 4 for that matter into the grass.

As far as this clutch boost please explain, I haven't seen any sign of it yet.

Try to kill someone and tell police that you didn't know that killing someone is illegal.

Rules aren't tailored to individual person.

And try to cut corners be on top 20 in your country and prepare for the biggest fail in your life

 

[IronM@sk]

I don't even see how this thread has made it to this many posts!! Anybody who has driven around the demo track will already know that if you cut a corner too much, it will invalidate your lap time. If you havent then try it. Every corner has been considered.

(@Perkel: That's the most stupid example of an argument on the internets. Everyone uses it, but it is still stupid)

 

[Nauraushaun]

I don't even see how this thread has made it to this many posts!! Anybody who has driven around the demo track will already know that if you cut a corner too much, it will invalidate your lap time. If you havent then try it. Every corner has been considered.

This thread exists because you're wrong. Ever tried cutting the last corner? If not, do it, you can get most of your car off the track if not all of it. You can cut the very first corner pretty hard as well.

 

[juniordee]

I don't even see how this thread has made it to this many posts!! Anybody who has driven around the demo track will already know that if you cut a corner too much, it will invalidate your lap time. If you havent then try it. Every corner has been considered.

(@Perkel: That's the most stupid example of an argument on the internets. Everyone uses it, but it is still stupid)

We already know that we can get laps invalidated by cutting corners too much. But that doesn't change the fact we can still cut them to the point it would be illegal in real life, without getting penalized in the game.

 

[IronM@sk]

I'm sorry but I haven't seen one single cut that would get you a drive through penalty in real life on this track.

 

[Lernatix]

I have.

 

[H20HYBRID_GT]

Just because this would certainly be illegal here on GTP doesn`t mean it's in the GT5 TT, does it?

And as for real life, I've seen cutting corners often without drivers getting penalised, it's always an individual decision, who, where, when, Ferrari driver or not , Zanardi at Laguna comes to mind.

Just saying, I've never cut a corner on purpose on this TT as I don't think it would get me an advantage.


BTW nice pictures, but they don't show if there was a penalty or not...

 

[HaylRayzor]

This thread exists because you're wrong. Ever tried cutting the last corner? If not, do it, you can get most of your car off the track if not all of it. You can cut the very first corner pretty hard as well.

Yes you can get MOST of your car off track. But if you don't have SOME rubber on track (including the rumble strips and little concrete patches) you'll be penalized.

 

[premhz]

Untrue. I just watched the replay for the number 1 in the tuned car, he cut the last corner by as much as is possible.

I have noticed that aswell. Not really fair to be honest.