Datamined car list
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What makes you think they’re placed close to the car? It’s a car on site that PD scanned some years ago. The person in question has nothing to do with the collection.
You can take it how you like. It’s a discussion thread speculating about cars in a videogame. The only place to scan and reference a number of these forthcoming (and recently added) cars is TMG.
Some news is first hand. Others came from a friend. DSC made the call re. Alonso because I was chatting to the editor and mentioned it.
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You keep going back and forth it's impossible to tell how to take it.
This is some Vsauce levels of "...or did they?"
Did PD actually scan the cars you said they scanned at TMG or is TMG the only likely place to scan these cars if PD were to add them to the game according to a list of names?
When people make claims like yours, there's usually some accompanying proof.
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So... just to get this straight...
... the person who told you - or the person who told the person who told you, or the person who told the person who told the person who told you - about the specific cars PD definitely scanned at "TMG"*... "has nothing to do with the collection"?
But we're all supposed to accept that this source which "has nothing to do with the collection" is totally, 100% accurate about which cars PD scanned, despite one of the cars not existing (along with the other incorrect information about it).
Seems legit.
*Which is actually the "Toyota Motorsport Museum", within the Toyota Gazoo Racing Europe HQ in Cologne, but since we've already battled through two layers of incorrect terminology, why the hell not go for a third?
Don't forget as well as this mole he has in Toyota Germany, he also has friends in PD localisation working on a GT7 PC port.
June update predictions
Rory's video made some excellent points. Arrogance would explain a lot of the behavior and lack of communication, and I for one will not buy the next GT. PD does not respect its customer base. I'll play this one still at times because it's a sunk cost, but they've pushed me to start working on...
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Yes. That list is rather old stuff. If I recall correctly there's even GT4 leftovers/bits of data as opposed to actual cars that they may plan on adding that are on that list, so as I said, not a confirmation of any sort and take it with a grain of salt as to whether even a half are actually planned for release.
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The only way to settle this argument is for the leaker to send a photo of the "MR2 Group B" with his handwriting and can of beans visible or else it didn't happen.
What is the point? This car has been publically accessible not long ago. I took a couple of photos of it myself.
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That's not a clue, that has to do with Alonso's seat fitting, not scanning cars for GT7.
Prove it.
So you don't really know, your just using powers of deduction to assume PD have a. Scanned these cars and b. Had to scan them at TMG because that's where they are?
Or you're claiming to get first hand information from TMG? But you can't prove any of this can you?
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Nathan, buddy. People on this site have cynicism because there's been multiple promises or statements made by other people for ages and they all fell flat. There's even promises made by Polyphony Digital that have not come true in the past. Thus people need actual, concrete proof of claims like this. You gotta understand and respect that.
With that said, can you provide any links to prove these claims at all? If you believe it, then that should be no problem right?
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Hmmm this topic has completely escaped me. Coming from the FGC and having a pretty big fallout in the past from datamined lists of content...tread lightly you all. These can turn into quite the monster and not in ways youd think.
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The funny part is that all this debate started when someone mentioned PD visiting a Toyota museum and supposedly would add some of their cars to the game. People, it's Toyota, if there's any rumour associated with one or several of their cars coming to the game, chances of that happening are fairly high. Hell, at this point, a potato with a Toyota badge has more chances to be in the game than something like the gorgeous 488 Pista or the iconic Escort RS Cosworth (to give some examples).
At this point, we should just take everything with a grain of salt, and not argue for 2 or 3 pages about rumours. In the end, we might get 100 more GT/GR86 variants, becoming the new Miata.
At this point, we should just take everything with a grain of salt, and not argue for 2 or 3 pages about rumours. In the end, we might get 100 more GT/GR86 variants, becoming the new Miata.
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Xj220 🙏Really excited to see this. We have old classics returning such as Skyline Silhouette and Escudo Pikes Peak. But mostly I'm grateful for a bunch of Lotus cars coming up, considering the British sportscar maker was missing altogether.
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Definitely agree with whoever posted about the chances of a lot of Toyota cars coming into the game. The brand really has PD in their backpocket, and frankly, I'm all for it. All the brands should be like Toyota... They know that their cars being in one of the biggest franchises of racing games is "free publicity", and spreads the brand a lot across borders.
Unlike other greedy bastards *cough Lotus *cough who want a premium over other brands to have their cars in the game.
Unlike other greedy bastards *cough Lotus *cough who want a premium over other brands to have their cars in the game.
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People seem to be very quick to forget that Toyota almost entirely pulled out of racing games (apart from GTS) only a few years ago because they didn't want their brand tarnished by sweaty gamers and have only just more recently changed their stance (although some suspect that this was also a bid for better licensing deals, just like Lotus).
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At the moment, for single model cars, any GT-R and the AE86/GT86/GR86/BRZ cars are tied at Thirteen. Eleven 911 models. Eleven Corvette/Sting Rays from all eras. Eight Mustangs. Eight Supras. Eight Impreza/WRX models. Seven Z cars.
Wonder how many more cars there’d be if we only got one defining model from each brand.
Wonder how many more cars there’d be if we only got one defining model from each brand.
Grimm6Jack
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To be honest, this isn't as bad if you consider that some models are all "generational models".
The GT-R R32, R33, R34, R35 may all be GT-R or Skyline but they are clearly different cars.
The 911 is the same. The 992, the 991, the 993, the 964, the 996 all of them may be 911s but again, clearly different cars.
The 1989 M3 is also not the same as the 2003 M3 and the 2007 M3. And the Corvettes are in the same ballpark.
BUT, and now I'll definitely back you up here, when you consider things like:
Mustang Gr.B
Mustang Gr.4
Mustang (road car)
Mustang Gr.3
And other cars in similar situations... Now yes, we are talking about clear duplicates. Or the 2014-2015 Clio RS, or the 2019 and 2020 Supra... And yes, the BRZ/86 is another type of duplicate.
The biggest offenders to me are the Gr. cars that aren't real life cars but cars that were tuned by PD... These cars could've been in the game in the same way we made RM models on cars back in GT5-GT6, yet they bothered to make them stand out as actual cars for sale in the Brand Central and consider them as a "car count". Makes no sense to me. If it's about the Manufacturers in Sport Mode, they could've just had the cars there and there alone, and not in the main campaign mode.
I have the list of all cars in a detailed sheet. If I list all the cars that have no model year, basically, "fictional" cars like VGTs and Gr.B/Gr.3/Gr.4 and Safety Cars.
Just from here alone you have 118 cars out of the 433(436) in the game.
Now for real duplicates:
1. BMW M6 GT3 Endurance Model / M6 Sprint Model
2. Honda Civic (EK9) Type-R 1997 / 1998
3. Honda Integra DC2 Type-R 1995 / 1998
4. Nissan Silvia S13 Ks Dia Selection / Silvia S13 Qs
5. Renault Clio R.S. 220 Trophy 2015 / 2016
6. Subaru BRZ 2021 / Toyota GR 86 RZ
7. Subaru BRZ 2015 / Toyota 86 GT / Toyota GT "Limited" (3 cars that are basically the same lol)
8. Toyota Corolla Levin 1600GT Apex (AE86) / Sprinter Trueno 1600GT Apex (AE86)
9. Toyota GR Supra RZ (A90) 2019 / 2020
10. Super Formula Toyota / Honda
And ... that's it!? I'm surprised we only have this amount of "true" duplicates. Guess GT7 has come a long way from the past GTs. The GT86/BRZ is still ridiculous though, 3 generations with 2 and 3 cars that are the same lol.
Still, out of 433(436) cars, 118 (fictional, most of which based on road cars tuned to race cars) + 11 (true duplicates) and the true list of cars of GT7 comes down to 314(317)...
It's still good, 314 "unique" cars in the game, but for GT standarts (and 9 years between GT7 and GT6), it's really not anything to boast about.
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I'm mean you're right but you're wrong...
Toyota Doesn't Want Its Cars in Games With 'Illegal Street Racing' (UPDATE)
UPDATE (08.21.19): Toyota UK has released a series of tweets in regards to the (now-deleted) original "illegal street racing" comment: https://twitter.com/ToyotaUK/status/1164177380711288832?s=20 "We love that you want to see our cars in all your favourite racing games, and honestly, we want the
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While Integra and Civic are duplicates, Silvia K's and Q's have different performance.
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Wasen't it an excuse for appearing exclusively in GT tho?I'm mean you're right but you're wrong...
Toyota Doesn't Want Its Cars in Games With 'Illegal Street Racing' (UPDATE)
UPDATE (08.21.19): Toyota UK has released a series of tweets in regards to the (now-deleted) original "illegal street racing" comment: https://twitter.com/ToyotaUK/status/1164177380711288832?s=20 "We love that you want to see our cars in all your favourite racing games, and honestly, we want the
I see many people say the same thing and i don't know why as they have quite big mechanical differences.
Kind of but at least they are coming from different brands.
This one however might be the worst duplicate of all.
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But what's the point in having them? I haven't checked, but are the differences really that large? If they are minimal, like 20 or so hp difference or kilos, there's really no point. There's also the chassis to take into account, which are basically the same.
It's not like we're talking about AMG GT C and AMG GT-R and Black Series differences. Which are quite large.
What are the big differences between those Integras?
The BRZ and the 86 from different brands are still the same car mechanically and in chassis with only minor cosmetic differences.
This would be the same as having an Acura NSX and a Honda NSX in the game. All in all... it's a duplicate.
Also I forgot to mention 1 more obvious car that is a duplicate... The Super Formula cars from Toyota and Honda which are literally the same but different brand.
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Power,torque,weight,max torque RPM,wheel\tyre size brakes gear ratios and more.
No thats like saying Honda and Honda US.
Not quite because PD had to fully include both due to licensing and at least they sound differently.
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And the 95' integra has a chonker bodykit.
