Difficult Car - Ferrari F40

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The difficult car for June is the legendary Ferrari F40!!! Indeed quite a beast to tame - from understeer, to oversteer, to understeer again - not to mention a good transmission is just as important to this car as LSD and suspension. Test your tuning strengths on this Italian legend!
 
Nice, I have a pair of nice replica tune with real world setup, not quick as it has camber, but still fun to drive and can replicate real life Tsukuba lap record :)

Take your pick between US and EU spec F40, both with corrected gearing unique to the markets, corrected power and weight without fuel and driver :P
These would be a what if the F40 are made to be as close as possible to a real life owned F40. I hope a repost is okay :D

Ferrari F40 '92 ( Real World Setup version ) US Market Version

Special Build Replica with Real World Setup Ferrari F40 '92 US Market version
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium




CAR : Ferrari F40 '92
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs

Horsepower: 503 HP / 510 PS at 7000 RPM
Torque: 455.0 ft-lb at 4000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 99.9%
Weight: 1286 kg ( lowest dry weight )
Ballast : 174 kg
Ballast Position : 1
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 as in real life ( dry weight )
Performance Points: 543


GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Rosso Corsa



Tuning Parts Installed :
Intake Tuning or Optional High RPM Range Turbo Kit -- see notes for more details.
Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction



Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with Street/Track Tuned Damper and Real World Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 101 101 - standard - Alternate Ride Height F/R : 63 56 ( lowest ), 115 115 ( high ) and 81 101 ( track lowered)
Spring Rate: 8.25 12.00 - Alternate High Speed Track Oriented Spring Rate F/R : 12.00 12.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 6
Dampers (Extension): 7 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.33 0.33


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Corrected US Market Ratio Gear Set and Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.000
Set Auto Max Speed to 220kmh / 137mph ( lowest )
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.692
2nd 2.285
3rd 1.636
4th 1.284
5th 0.978
Final Gear : 2.900
Optimum Shift Point : 7400-7700 RPM ( as in real life )


LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 60% Lock and Medium Preload - AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version
Initial Torque : 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 27
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

or

Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36


OPTIONAL LSD SETUP F355 Spec :
LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 45% Lock and High Preload
Initial Torque : 40
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 37
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

or

Initial Torque : 17
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27






Brake Balance:
7/6 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 6/4, for ABS 1 7/6 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/6 brake balance as starting point.



Notes :
Ferrari F40, the last great Ferrari IMO, no electronics aids, just pure man and machine :)

This car is one of my most favorite ride in GT5 and GT6, and it's well known for it's inaccuracy in terms of stats and stock setup.

I made this special replica build with the main goal of correcting the mistakes and make it handle more like a Ferrari, whatever that means :P

First of all, there are 2 region market for Ferrari F40, Europe and US. Both has distinctive setup from power, weight to gearing.

The US market has heavier dry weight, with added parts and interior + exterior modification to comply with US Federal regulations. To compensate for the added weight, US F40 also has higher power output and closer gearing. This gives US F40 roughly close performance to the EU F40 when both have cats installed ( catalytic converters ). All US F40 do not come with variable ride height system ( lift kit ) when sold, while the EU F40 factory delivered with the lift kit system. Several US F40 have been retrofitted with lift kit :)

This replica is a representation of US F40 with lift kit, EIBACH ERS springs installed and lowest reported corner weight ( dry ).

The power of US F40 from dyno reports of around just below 500HP to 503HP / 510PS with dry weight of 1286kg / 2835 lbs and 42/58 weight distribution.

To achieve the power figure, I decided to use Intake Tuning, this gives higher torque increase while replicating power.
I used it as I prefer stock turbo characteristics, use High RPM Range Turbo Kit instead, if you want lower torque / closer to real life torque at the expense of altered turbo characteristics and set power limiter at 99.4% - 503HP, 438.6 ft-lb.

For suspension, I have used EIBACH ERS springs at 8.25kg/mm front and 12.0kg/mm rear, maintaining spring ratio for the stock F40 spring rate, as the stock value can't be achieved. Damper setup for street and track, with ARB set for balance. Toe and camber has been setup with real world alignment values, based on F355 alignment which from report share similar alignment with F40 - closest information I can get :)

An alternate spring rate at 12kg/mm front and rear also provided, this is more oriented for high speed cornering and sweepers.

The real Ferrari F40 has ZF Self Locking LSD, based from Auto Motorsport review specs, the rear LSD has 60% lock, I have tuned likewise, with medium preload. The previous replica LSD which uses specs from Ferrari F355 with 45% lock and high preload also listed as optional.

Transmission has also been fixed, with correct US F40 ratios and final. Top speed of real F40 in US record at 324kmh/201mph has also been replicated, furthermore, the rolling acceleration time and vehicle speed at 5th gear 1000rpm has been closely replicated - similar to the tested reports from the magazine.

Various test results from Auto Motorsport mag :

60kmh-100kmh in 4th gear rolling acceleration : 6.3s
80kmh-120kmh in 5th gear rolling acceleration : 8.5s
5th Gear speed at 1000 RPM : 43.5kmh

F40 speed on each gear at about 7400-7700rpm optimal shift point :
1st 90kmh
2nd 144kmh
3rd 201kmh
4th 255kmh
5th 321+kmh

Feel free to try it at SSR7 :)


The F40 was extensively tuned/tested at Ascari, Tsukuba, Spa, Bathurst, Nordschleife, SSR7, Apricot Hill, Brands Hatch GP and Willow Springs.

I also managed to replicate the real life lap time of F40 at Tsukuba, done on Best Motoring at 1:03.73. The car easily do low 1:03s, while my best was 1:02s on comfort soft :D

Another real life at Suzuka record 2:25.27 in real life can easily be replicated, with my 1st lap at high 2:24s :P, also on comfort soft.



ENJOY :cheers:

UPDATE : Thanks to @danbojte for the invaluable input, a setup combo from the replica tune used on wheel ( G27 ) :

Suspension
Ride Height: 81 101 - track lowered
Spring Rate: 12.00 12.00 - High Speed Track Oriented Spring Rate
Dampers (Compression): 7 6
Dampers (Extension): 7 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.33 0.33

Brake Balance : 6 / 4

LSD - Original Base Setup
Initial Torque : 40
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

Should work well for races



Real life vs GT6 Ride Height :

F/R 115mm / 115mm GT6 vs High Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 101mm / 101mm GT6 vs Standard Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 81mm / 101mm GT6 vs Track Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 63mm / 56mm GT6 vs Dropped F40

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UPDATE : Added LSD spec from Auto Motorsport Feb '89 review, and listed F355 LSD spec as optional.
 
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And the EU Market version ( slightly quicker overall than the US market ) I have also get as close as possible in rolling acceleration performance to real life test :)

Ferrari F40 '92 ( Real World Setup version ) EU Market Version

Special Build Replica with Real World Setup Ferrari F40 '92 EU Market version
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium




CAR : Ferrari F40 '92
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs - No Power Upgrade

Horsepower: 471 HP / 478 PS at 7000 RPM
Torque: 425.2 ft-lb at 4000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1143 kg ( lowest dry weight )
Ballast : 31 kg
Ballast Position : -32
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 as in real life ( dry weight )
Performance Points: 542

NO CATS Specs Option 1 ( Isometric Exhaust Manifold + High RPM Range Turbo Kit )
Horsepower: 513 HP / 520 PS at 6800 RPM
Torque: 451.5 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 98.4%
Weight: 1143 kg ( lowest dry weight )
Ballast : 31 kg
Ballast Position : -32
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 as in real life ( dry weight )
Performance Points: 554


NO CATS Specs Option 2 ( Isometric Exhaust Manifold + Intake Tuning )
Horsepower: 513 HP / 520 PS at 7000 RPM
Torque: 468.5 ft-lb at 4000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 98.9%
Weight: 1143 kg ( lowest dry weight )
Ballast : 31 kg
Ballast Position : -32
Weight Distribution : 42 / 58 as in real life ( dry weight )
Performance Points: 556



GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Rosso Corsa



Tuning Parts Installed :
NO Cats replica power :
Optional High RPM Range Turbo Kit + Isometric Exhaust Manifold -- see notes for more details.
Optional Intake Tuning + Isometric Exhaust Manifold -- see notes for more details.

Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction



Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with Street/Track Tuned Damper and Real World Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 101 101 - standard - Alternate Ride Height F/R : 63 56 ( lowest ), 115 115 ( high ) and 81 101 ( track lowered)
Spring Rate: 8.25 12.00 - Alternate High Speed Track Oriented Spring Rate F/R : 12.00 12.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 6
Dampers (Extension): 7 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.33 0.33


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Corrected EU Market Ratio Gear Set and Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.000
Set Auto Max Speed to 220kmh / 137mph ( lowest )
Adjust each gear :
1st 3.692
2nd 2.296
3rd 1.636
4th 1.284
5th 1.022
Final Gear : 2.727
Optimum Shift Point : 7400-7700 RPM ( as in real life )


OPTIONAL GEAR RATIO - Auto Motorsport Feb '89
DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Corrected EU Market AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version Ratio Gear Set and Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.000
Set Auto Max Speed to 310kmh / 191mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.769
2nd 1.722
3rd 1.227
4th 0.963
5th 0.767
Final Gear : 3.620
Optimum Shift Point : 7400-7700 RPM ( as in real life )



LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 60% Lock and Medium Preload - AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version
Initial Torque : 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 27
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

or

Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36


OPTIONAL LSD SETUP F355 Spec :
LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 45% Lock and High Preload
Initial Torque : 40
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 37
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

or

Initial Torque : 17
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27






Brake Balance:
7/6 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 6/4, for ABS 1 7/6 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/6 brake balance as starting point.



Notes :
Ferrari F40, the last great Ferrari IMO, no electronics aids, just pure man and machine :)

This car is one of my most favorite ride in GT5 and GT6, and it's well known for it's inaccuracy in terms of stats and stock setup.

I made this special replica build with the main goal of correcting the mistakes and make it handle more like a Ferrari, whatever that means :P

First of all, there are 2 region market for Ferrari F40, Europe and US. Both has distinctive setup from power, weight to gearing.

The EU market has much lighter dry weight and comes with lift kit/variable ride height suspension system from factory, with lower final gear and slightly different 2nd and 5th gear :)

This replica is a representation of EU F40 with lift kit, EIBACH ERS springs installed and lowest reported corner weight ( dry ).

The power of EU F40 from dyno reports with cat installed of 471HP / 478PS / 478CV with dry weight of 1143kg / 2520 lbs and 42/58 weight distribution.

Some EU F40 do not have cats installed, usually the early years model, these non Cats F40 has been reported to have in excess of 500HP, some even dynoed with close to 520PS or 513HP.

To achieve the power figure of non cats EU F40, I decided to include 2 optional upgrades path, one uses high rpm range turbo kit and exhaust manifold, the other intake tuning and exhaust manifold. The specs are listed above.

For suspension, I have used EIBACH ERS springs at 8.25kg/mm front and 12.0kg/mm rear, maintaining spring ratio for the stock F40 spring rate, as the stock value can't be achieved. Damper setup for street and track, with ARB set for balance. Toe and camber has been setup with real world alignment values, based on F355 alignment which from report share similar alignment with F40 - closest information I can get :)

An alternate spring rate at 12kg/mm front and rear also provided, this is more oriented for high speed cornering and sweepers.

The real Ferrari F40 has ZF Self Locking LSD, based from Auto Motorsport review specs, the rear LSD has 60% lock, I have tuned likewise, with medium preload. The previous replica LSD which uses specs from Ferrari F355 with 45% lock and high preload also listed as optional.

Transmission has also been fixed, with correct EU F40 ratios and final. I have also added optional gear ratio setup from Auto Motorsport Feb'89 review. Both perform the same and can be used. Top speed of real F40 in US record at 324kmh/201mph has also been replicated, furthermore, the rolling acceleration time and vehicle speed at 5th gear 1000rpm has been closely replicated - similar to the tested reports from the magazine.

Various test results from Auto Motorsport mag :

60kmh-100kmh in 4th gear rolling acceleration : 6.3s
80kmh-120kmh in 5th gear rolling acceleration : 8.5s
5th Gear speed at 1000 RPM : 43.5kmh

F40 speed on each gear at about 7400-7700rpm optimal shift point :
1st 90kmh
2nd 144kmh
3rd 201kmh
4th 255kmh
5th 321+kmh

Feel free to try it at SSR7 :)

The F40 was extensively tuned/tested at Ascari, Tsukuba, Spa, Bathurst, Nordschleife, SSR7, Apricot Hill, Brands Hatch GP and Willow Springs.

I also managed to replicate the real life lap time of F40 at Tsukuba, done on Best Motoring at 1:03.73. The car easily do 1:02s comfort soft - slightly quicker than the US F40, as it should :D

Another real life at Suzuka record 2:25.27 in real life can easily be replicated.


ENJOY :cheers:

UPDATE : Thanks to @danbojte for the invaluable input, a setup combo from the replica USF40 tune used on wheel ( G27 ) :

Suspension
Ride Height: 81 101 - track lowered
Spring Rate: 12.00 12.00 - High Speed Track Oriented Spring Rate
Dampers (Compression): 7 6
Dampers (Extension): 7 5
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.33 0.33

Brake Balance : 6 / 4

LSD - Original Base Setup
Initial Torque : 40
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

Should work well for races



Real life vs GT6 Ride Height :

F/R 115mm / 115mm GT6 vs High Setting Lift Kit

View attachment 156919
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F/R 101mm / 101mm GT6 vs Standard Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 81mm / 101mm GT6 vs Track Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 63mm / 56mm GT6 vs Dropped F40

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UPDATE : Added LSD spec from Auto Motorsport Feb '89 review, and listed F355 LSD spec as optional.
Added optional gear ratio setup from Auto Motorsport Feb '89 review, works just as good as the original setup.
 
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because its a proper supercar it doesn't have all this ****** computer rubbish like traction control and any of these other driver assists its all mechanical
 
I may actually have a go at tuning this car. I love the looks and the power this car has.

Edit: First impressions of this car when I tune it myself is. Sweet Mommy of Dog! This car is epic and wants to kill me but I will tame this beast. Makes me wonder why no one thought to turn it into a drift car. It certainly has a lot of drift characteristics in it.
 
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I may actually have a go at tuning this car. I love the looks and the power this car has.

Edit: First impressions of this car when I tune it myself is. Sweet Mommy of Dog! This car is epic and wants to kill me but I will tame this beast. Makes me wonder why no one thought to turn it into a drift car. It certainly has a lot of drift characteristics in it.
Might give it a go, don't usually like MRs for drifting but I will see how she slides.
 
@danbojte setup combo ( ride height and spring rate ) is a very good starting point for EU (471HP) or US F40 :) Relatively easy to drive at Tsukuba on CS tire, should help a lot to replicate the real life lap time target 1:03.73s, stable and predictable even with the front and rear camber :)

For Suzuka, I recommend to use standard setup - 8.25/12 springs and 101/101 ride height. This should be balanced and easy to get close to 2:25.27 on CS tire, a clean run would see 2:23s. It drives fantastic on SM and SS for a replica, and might be even better with lower camber.
 
@Ridox2JZGTE Is the different power figure beween US/Eur a result of fuel quality?

It's more to fuel map, timing, boost and cats, and I think fuel octane has a small role. With cats EU F40 has 471HP / 478PS, this is more to be found on later model, as most early release model has no cats running higher boost and richer fuel map. I read on Ferrari owner forums, that with no cats, EU F40 can reach 520PS on the dyno with close to 100 RON fuel and some ECU tune up ( stock turbo and engine, some has Tuby Style exhaust)

American F40 has higher power with cats installed and though the fuel quality is not as good as in Europe. From what I read, the boost is slightly higher on US F40 with different fuel map / ECU tune than EU F40 with cats. This was done to equalize performance, as Federalized F40 are much heavier, gearing also has been altered as a result to help with acceleration ( higher final and different 2nd and 5th gear ) I still haven't find conclusive dyno result for US market F40 without cats, it might only yield slight increase as it's already running higher state of tune. I also read that a stock F40 with optimum engine tuning ( strengthened internals, free flow exhaust ) and optimal boost can reach close to 550PS -570PS on race grade fuel.

If you ever run my replica, be sure to drive it at Tsukuba and Suzuka on CS tire :) Not many F40 tune can run/drive well on comfort tires :P let alone with moderate camber ( some grip loss )
 
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Never mind I am actually participating in the 24 Hours of Le Mans so maybe towards the end of the month you will see a tune from me.
 
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Ferrari F40 '92 - 450,000​

Oil Change - 250
Improve Body Rigidity - 25,000
Tires: Sports Soft - 10,000
Height-Adjustable, Fully Customizable Suspension - 20,000
Racing Brakes - 10,000
Fully Customizable Dog-Clutch Transmission - 20,000
Twin-Plate Clutch Kit - 3,500
Fully Customizable Mechanical Limited Slip Differential - 7,500
Sports Computer - 2,000
Intake Tuning - 5,000
Semi-Racing Exhaust - 7,500
Isometric Exhaust Manifold - 3,500
Catalytic Converter: Sports - 2,000
Low RPM Range Turbo Kit - 7,500
Weight Reduction: Stage 1 - 5,000

Total Investment - 578,750


PP: 585
660 HP @ 7,600 RPM
564 LB-FT @ 4,600 RPM
1230 KG
1.86 KG/HP
Weight Distribution: 40/60


Quick Tune Settings (v4.2):

Suspension Level: 3
Corner Entry Balance: 0
Corner Exit Balance: -3
Base Camber Angle: 0.0
LSD Strength: 3
Spread: 100.0%
Scale: 100.0%


Ride Height: 69 / 78
Spring Rate: 10.80 / 16.94
Dampers (Compression): 7 / 7
Dampers (Extension): 6 / 8
Anti-Roll Bars: 6 / 2
Camber Angle: 0.0 / 0.0
Toe Angle: 0.13 / 0.75
Brake Balance: 7 / 3


Transmission Instructions:

Set Final Gear to 5.000
Set Max Speed to 168 MPH (270 KPH)

1st Gear: 2.678
2nd Gear: 1.789
3rd Gear: 1.309
4th Gear: 1.000
5th Gear: 0.788
Final Gear: 3.530


Initial Torque: - / 22
Acceleration Sensitivity: - / 33
Braking Sensitivity: - / 33


ABS 1, all other aids off.
 
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Ferrari F40 '92
Wheel / Joypad: PS3 controller
Power:
500 BHP @ 7000 rpm / 64.3 kgfm @ 4000 rpm
Weight:
1172 kg
Performance Points:
500pp
Tires:
SS

Suspension: (Height-Adjustable, Fully-Customisable Suspension)

Ride Height:
Front: 85 Rear: 85
Spring Rate:
Front: 9.08 kg Rear: 15.45 kg
Dampers (Compression):
Front: 4 Rear: 3
Dampers (Extension):
Front: 8 Rear: 7
Anti-Roll Bars:
Front: 4 Rear: 4 (4/5 If you require more stability)
Camber Angle (-):
Front: 0.0° Rear: 0.0°
Toe Angle:
Front: 0.01° Rear: 0.10°
Brakes: Racing Upgrade
F: 5 R: 6

Drivetrain: Fully Customisable Transmission

1)
Set final to 3.750
2)
Set Max Speed to 112
3)
Set in sequence (5-4-3-2-1-F)

1:
4.400
2:
2.610
3:
1.850
4:
1.440
5:
1.144

Final:
2.490

Differential Gear: Fully Customisable Differential

Initial Torque:
F - R -15
Acceleration Sensitivity:
F - R -15
Braking Sensitivity:
F - R -15
Clutch & Flywheel:
Twin Plate
Propeller Shaft:
Standard

Power

Oil Change:
No
Power Limiter:
100%
Engine Tuning:
Standard
Computer:
Standard
Exhaust:
Standard
Exhaust Manifold:
Isometric
Catalytic Converter:
Standard
Intake Tuning:
Standard
Turbo Kit: Stage:
Low-Rpm
Nitrous Oxide (N2O):
No

Body

Body Rigidity Improvement:
No
Downforce:
F: 0 R: 50
Weight Reduction:
Stage 3
Bonnet:
Standard
Windows:
Weight Reduction
Ballast:
60 kg
Ballast position:
-32
 
Here are some replay of test laps done driving the Ferrari F40 replica, all on comfort soft tire and no aids, enjoy the red F40 - gotta love GT6 replay cameras :P I think all of them done on EU market F40 replica ( 471HP ) Not many F40 tune can run on cs tire ;)
 

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Never mind I am actually participating in the 24 Hours of Le Mans so maybe towards the end of the month you will see a tune from me.
@Jakedog23

I volunteer to carry your bags & sweep the floor in exchange for a free ticket :bowdown::D

Seriously though, enjoy your trip to La Sarthe :)
 
I have made another replica F40, this time a version from AUTO Motorsport '89 Magazine review. The F40 has curb weight in this version with full tank ( 120L ). This F40 is blistering quick, able to easily post 1:02s at Tsukuba and 2:21.175 at Suzuka on 1st lap :eek:, both on comfort soft - 471HP :P Please read the detailed notes for more information.


Ferrari F40 '92 ( Real World Setup version ) EU Market
AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version

Special Build Replica with Real World Setup Ferrari F40 '92 EU Market AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version
Comfort Soft to Sports Medium




CAR : Ferrari F40 '92
Tire : Comfort Soft to Sports Medium

Specs - No Power Upgrade

Horsepower: 471 HP / 478 PS at 7000 RPM
Torque: 425.2 ft-lb at 4000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 100%
Weight: 1254 kg ( Auto Motorsport tested curb weight with full tank 120L and all fluids )
Ballast : 142 kg
Ballast Position : 16
Weight Distribution : 39.2 / 60.8 as in real life ( curb weight with full tank and all fluids - closer to 38/62 with driver )
Performance Points: 535

NO CATS Specs Option 1 ( Isometric Exhaust Manifold + High RPM Range Turbo Kit )
Horsepower: 513 HP / 520 PS at 6800 RPM
Torque: 451.5 ft-lb at 4500 RPM
Power Limiter at : 98.4%
Weight: 1254 kg ( Auto Motorsport tested curb weight with full tank 120L and all fluids )
Ballast : 142 kg
Ballast Position : 16
Weight Distribution : 39.2 / 60.8 as in real life ( curb weight with full tank and all fluids - closer to 38/62 with driver )
Performance Points: 547


NO CATS Specs Option 2 ( Isometric Exhaust Manifold + Intake Tuning )
Horsepower: 513 HP / 520 PS at 7000 RPM
Torque: 468.5 ft-lb at 4000 RPM
Power Limiter at : 98.9%
Weight: 1254 kg ( Auto Motorsport tested curb weight with full tank 120L and all fluids )
Ballast : 142 kg
Ballast Position : 16
Weight Distribution : 39.2 / 60.8 as in real life ( curb weight with full tank and all fluids - closer to 38/62 with driver )
Performance Points: 548



GT AUTO
NO Oil change
Wheels : Stock
Car Paint : Rosso Corsa



Tuning Parts Installed :
NO Cats replica power :
Optional High RPM Range Turbo Kit + Isometric Exhaust Manifold -- see notes for more details.
Optional Intake Tuning + Isometric Exhaust Manifold -- see notes for more details.

Suspension Fully Customizable Kit
Fully Customizable Dog Clutch Transmission
Adjustable LSD
Weight Reduction Stage 3
Window Weight Reduction



Suspension - Eibach ERS Springs with Street/Track Tuned Damper and Real World Alignment
Front, Rear

Ride Height: 101 101 - standard - Alternate Ride Height F/R : 63 56 ( lowest ), 115 115 ( high ) and 81 101 ( track lowered)
Spring Rate: 8.25 12.00 - Alternate High Speed Track Oriented Spring Rate F/R : 12.00 12.00
Dampers (Compression): 7 7
Dampers (Extension): 7 6
Anti-Roll Bars: 4 4
Camber Angle: 0.5 1.8
Toe Angle: 0.33 0.33


DOG CLUTCH TRANSMISSION - Corrected EU Market AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version Ratio Gear Set and Final
Install all power parts
Set Default
Set Final to 4.000
Set Auto Max Speed to 310kmh / 193mph
Adjust each gear :
1st 2.769
2nd 1.722
3rd 1.227
4th 0.963
5th 0.767
Final Gear : 3.620
Optimum Shift Point : 7400-7700 RPM ( as in real life )



LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 60% Lock and Medium Preload - AUTO Motorsport Mag 1989 Review Version
Initial Torque : 30
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 27
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36

or

Initial Torque : 20
Acceleration Sensitivity: 36
Braking Sensitivity: 36


OPTIONAL LSD SETUP F355 Spec :
LSD -ZF Self Locking LSD with 45% Lock and High Preload
Initial Torque : 40
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

Alternate LSD Setup for looser handling :

Initial Torque : 37
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27

or

Initial Torque : 17
Acceleration Sensitivity: 27
Braking Sensitivity: 27



Brake Balance:
7/6 ( personal BB) or for ABS 0 wheel : 6/4, for ABS 1 7/6 or feel free to use your preferred brake balance.

Recommended setting for DS3 user :
Steering sensitivity at +1 or +2, all aids off, except ABS 1 ( if not comfortable with ABS 0 ) with 7/6 brake balance as starting point.



Notes :
Ferrari F40, the last great Ferrari IMO, no electronics aids, just pure man and machine :)

This car is one of my most favorite ride in GT5 and GT6, and it's well known for it's inaccuracy in terms of stats and stock setup.

I made this special replica build with the main goal of correcting the mistakes and make it handle more like a Ferrari, whatever that means :P

First of all, there are 2 region market for Ferrari F40, Europe and US. Both has distinctive setup from power, weight to gearing.

The EU market has much lighter dry weight and comes with lift kit/variable ride height suspension system from factory, with lower final gear and slightly different 2nd and 5th gear :)

This replica is a representation of EU F40 with lift kit, EIBACH ERS springs installed and further based on specification from Auto Motorsport Magazine review back in February 1989. There are some differences to the earlier version replica I have built, mainly the weight, gearing and LSD. I have used LSD profile from F355, this time I have the correct data with 60% lock LSD. For gearing, the Auto Motorsport Mag version although uses different values, also achieved the exact speed/accceleration/top speed and rpm /speed figure on each gear as the other 2 version have posted. The other 2 replica earlier gearing was based on Ferrari owner's club and manual reports, while this one is based on magazine review.

The power of EU F40 from dyno reports with cat installed of 471HP / 478PS / 478CV with curb weight as measured and reported by Auto Motorsport Magazine = 1254kg / 2763.81 lbs and 39.2/60.8 weight distribution. This is curb weight with full fluids and full tank of fuel ( 120L ) - without driver. With a driver, the weight distribution will shift closer to 38/62.
Gross Vehicle Weight ( GVW ) as reported is 1430kg ( max operating weight with driver + passenger + cargo).

Some EU F40 do not have cats installed, usually the early years model, these non Cats F40 has been reported to have in excess of 500HP, some even dynoed with close to 520PS or 513HP.

To achieve the power figure of non cats EU F40, I decided to include 2 optional upgrades path, one uses high rpm range turbo kit and exhaust manifold, the other intake tuning and exhaust manifold. The specs are listed above.

For suspension, I have used EIBACH ERS springs at 8.25kg/mm front and 12.0kg/mm rear, maintaining spring ratio for the stock F40 spring rate, as the stock value can't be achieved. Damper setup for street and track, with ARB set for balance. Toe and camber has been setup with real world alignment values, based on F355 alignment which from report share similar alignment with F40 - closest information I can get :)

An alternate spring rate at 12kg/mm front and rear also provided, this is more oriented for high speed cornering and sweepers.

The real Ferrari F40 has ZF Self Locking LSD, based from Auto Motorsport review specs, the rear LSD has 60% lock, I have tuned likewise, with medium preload. The previous replica LSD which uses specs from Ferrari F355 with 45% lock and high preload also listed as optional.

The corrected EU F40 ratios and final based from the Auto Motorsport mag also able to replicate top speed of real F40 at 324kmh/201mph, furthermore, the rolling acceleration time and vehicle speed at 5th gear 1000rpm has been closely replicated - similar to the tested reports from the magazine.

Various test results from Auto Motorsport mag :

60kmh-100kmh in 4th gear rolling acceleration : 6.3s
80kmh-120kmh in 5th gear rolling acceleration : 8.5s
5th Gear speed at 1000 RPM : 43.5kmh

F40 speed on each gear at about 7400-7700rpm optimal shift point :
1st 90kmh
2nd 144kmh
3rd 201kmh
4th 255kmh
5th 321+kmh

Feel free to try it at SSR7 :)

The F40 was extensively tuned/tested at Ascari, Tsukuba, Spa, Bathurst, Nordschleife, SSR7, Apricot Hill, Brands Hatch GP and Willow Springs.

I also managed to replicate the real life lap time of F40 at Tsukuba, done on Best Motoring at 1:03.73. The car easily do 1:02s comfort soft - slightly quicker than the US F40, as it should :D

Another real life at Suzuka record 2:25.27 in real life can easily be replicated. I managed 2:21.175s on 1st lap.


ENJOY :cheers:



Real life vs GT6 Ride Height :

F/R 115mm / 115mm GT6 vs High Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 101mm / 101mm GT6 vs Standard Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 81mm / 101mm GT6 vs Track Lowered Setting Lift Kit

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F/R 63mm / 56mm GT6 vs Dropped F40

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AUTO MOTORSPORT Feb '89 Scan
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So, after many hours of tuning and miles of testing, 2 prototypes (damn you body rigidity!), a physics update and a complete change of tack(she was going to be a fire breathing, slick shod track monster!). I finally found the balance I was looking for on stock power and tyres!
She won`t win many races! But she put a massive smile on my face!
Ferrari F40 `92 535pp
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I will see if this car really is difficult- if not, I'll try to make a F40 Competizione replica in the game.
 
I tried your tune at Bathurst. I found it a bit skittery for that circuit. Just one change to settings and it was better in one lap, so I think overall the tune must be pretty solid.

I have not tried my old tunes for this car with 1.09 or any other tune, so not sure how good or bad your tune compares to other tunes.

If someone had managed to make an excellent tune with this car before 1.09, that would have been a noteworthy achievement, I know I really struggled.

The car seems to drive fairly fine stock now with 1.09, so it may be possible for a very nice tune for this car now.
 
@MrGrado
Thank you for testing my tune! Did you stick to the sports hards? I found it better balanced than on grippier tyres. What was your one change? My pre 1.09 tune for this car was a bit safe. The usual 550pp sports softs tune so I wanted to go back and liven it up a bit! I think i`d tuned the character out of it before.
Cheers again!
 
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Good to see the F40 getting some love!

Just an FYI, if you want to submit a new car for next month's thread, PM me. I will not be posting a nomination thread, just a poll thread this weekend. Cheers!
 
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