Do you think this is funny?

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Every so often someone uses a picture like this, and invariably there are a parade of :lol:'s that follow. But I just don't see what's funny about it. So retarded people are funny? People who can't help being different are funny? Maybe her parents laugh themselves to sleep every night, too. I bet the day she was born they pissed themselves laughing over the many years they had to look forward to of caring for their Down's Syndrome child... all the stupid things she'd say... all the health problems... the shortened life... and we can't forget how funny looking she is, right? I mean, look, it's so hillarious!

I also think it's hypocritical that so many posters will cry "racism" at the drop of a hat, and yet think nothing of having a laugh at this girl's (and her family's) expense. Of course you know that she is incapable of making fun of you, or anyone, for that matter. Yeah, it's fun to pick on the defenseless. It's so funny.

Don't any of you look at this picture and just feel grateful for what you have?

Making fun of people like this is cheap and low.

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Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
Im gonna keep my mouth shut after that intro :eek: Yeah,.. I dont thinks it's funny,... but thats not all I think.
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You can't just say that. C'mon. Spill it. I'm dying to hear.
 
It's a picture of a child with Down's Syndrome, a form of birth defect/retardation. Someone has made it into an "I'm smarter than you are" picture to post when they can't win an internet argument using their own brain and words.

I agree totally, milefile. I don't think it's funny or appropriate at all. As a parent I am grateful every day that my kids are all there, mentally and physically.

Not that I'm against making fun of people... far from it. It's just that you should only make fun of people for things they choose to do. Something unfortunate over which they have no control is out of bounds.
 
i still cant see it....nevermind, it still sounds sick...

people wilh mental and physical deformaties will always be a source of amusement to degenerate ****pigs
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
The kid shouldve been aborted the minute they knew she was impaired.
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a bit controversial there my friend....

and be deprived of a life....and her parents deprived of a warm and loving daughter....

hmmm....i would hate to have to make such a decision
 
Originally posted by TurboSmoke
a bit controversial there my friend....

and be deprived of a life....and her parents deprived of a warm and loving daughter....

hmmm....i would hate to have to make such a decision
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Yeah,.. but is it what you would want for your child? I doubt they even have the realization that they exist.

I know my statements sound cold-hearted,.. but I know I would make that decision in a heart-beat.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
Yeah,.. but is it what you would want for your child? I doubt they even have the realization that they exist.

I know my statements sound cold-hearted,.. but I know I would make that decision in a heart-beat.
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i respect your point of view...
 
My uncle and his wife had a Down's baby. They didn't know until he was born. His life was touch and go for weeks and I remember hoping the baby would die quickly (it even angered me how much effort went into saving him, as if a beating heart is all that's required). I felt bad for feeling that way, but I felt worse for my aunt and uncle and wanted them to just get it over with and hopefully get a second chance at what they really wanted. Their son's name is Derek and he's 13 now.
 
My aunt and uncle decided to abort their Down's fetus. It was truly morbid. After the removal the hospital had cleaned it up and brought it to the parents for them to say goodbye to, then it was buried.
 
Man...these are sad stories...

i dont peronally know anyone with this condition...but i see them in the street and you know...they do look happy in thier own little way...

its trully a personal decision and one which we should all respect..
 
Originally posted by Mopar Muscle
The picture was probably created by a retard because they spelled "funny" wrong.:lol:
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Dude, that's just stupid and callous.

Yeah, the girl shouldn't be mocked. That's not cool. Sadly, I pity the mentally handicapped. That's the worst prejudice. Ever. Not being able to gain respect just because you have a handicap... *shudders*
 
This is going to be a tough sale...But...

Yes, it is funny. Because it's has a cartoon feel to it. Her expression seems to show she's trying to be funny/goofy/silly. Is it a forced goofiness or is that a natural expression?

I don't find her situation in life funny. In fact the word printed across her I find offensive. The word is making fun of her. That's what changes this picture from a funny expression to one step shy of a hate crime.

I've looked around ebaum's world and it's a sight that caters to the low brow male. I found very few things there that I would consider funny.
 
I like pictures like that, some can be funny, but as soon as they insult someone with something that couldn't be helped is when it loses it's humour.
 
I found it sad that people would pick on a child like that...I mean come on...I feel sorry for that kid.
 
Originally posted by Timmotheus
Dude, that's just stupid and callous.

Yeah, the girl shouldn't be mocked. That's not cool. Sadly, I pity the mentally handicapped. That's the worst prejudice. Ever. Not being able to gain respect just because you have a handicap... *shudders*
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Don't be so stiff man.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
The kid shouldve been aborted the minute they knew she was impaired.
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I agree.

Whilst I fully respect any decision that anyone makes in this regard, my own (and my wife's view) is this:

Life is hard. It's difficult to make your way in this world even with all faculties working fully. I do not think that it is responsible to bring someone into the world who is naturally at such a disadvantage to the bulk of the populous. It's like they're doomed right from the very beginning. Parents are expected to make decisions in the best interests of the child right up until it reaches adulthood. Would a parent stop a child from hurting themselves? Absolutely. Is it the parent's right to make these decisions on behalf of the child? Yes. Would you be upset if your parents consigned you to a life of disadvantage and misery? I would have thought so. And because of this, if presented with the choice, we would opt to discontinue the pregnancy.

But it depends upon the individuals concerned. As I said above, I respect any parent's decision in this matter, even if it is not in accordance with my own way of thinking.

I sincerely hope I'm never faced with the choice.
 
i dont nessecerily aggree that these babies should be aborted as a matter of course....

i do believe that its the parents right to do what they think is right....
also Giles, you made a point that i disagee with...the part

"I do not think that it is responsible to bring someone into the world who is naturally at such a disadvantage to the bulk of the populous."

well..they are not so disadvantaged....i mean, no one expects them to compete on the same platform as an able bodied person, Downs children require special care and they get that care and attention, no one expects them to be able to suport a family or to go to university to graduate with honours in engineering or to set up thier own consultancy business and eventually retire to a villa in portugal....

very little is expected from them...asl long as they are kept stimulated, challenged and loved...they are happy...

this is just a view and i dont know more about it than the average person...:)
 
Originally posted by TurboSmoke
i dont nessecerily aggree that these babies should be aborted as a matter of course....

i do believe that its the parents right to do what they think is right....
also Giles, you made a point that i disagee with...the part

"I do not think that it is responsible to bring someone into the world who is naturally at such a disadvantage to the bulk of the populous."

well..they are not so disadvantaged....i mean, no one expects them to compete on the same platform as an able bodied person, Downs children require special care and they get that care and attention, no one expects them to be able to suport a family or to go to university to graduate with honours in engineering or to set up thier own consultancy business and eventually retire to a villa in portugal....

very little is expected from them...asl long as they are kept stimulated, challenged and loved...they are happy...

this is just a view and i dont know more about it than the average person...:)
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Although I think it's low to riducule severly mentally handicapped individuals, I tend to agree with RER and GG. The judgement regarding ridicule is totally conditioned by their already being here. And as TS says, their needs and the expectations placed on them are simple.

The world would be better without Down's Syndrome.

That also means the world would be better without individuals afflicted with Down's Syndrome. It's hard to say that, and simple decency dictates we don't tell them. But every effort should be made to prevent it starting with eradication of the mutation, and ending with termination of pregnancies.

Perhaps the tendency of many to childishly poke fun at them is really an expression of anxiety over the very existence of such unfortunate conditions, and fear of the possibility that it could be their kid.
 
Originally posted by milefile
Perhaps the tendency of many to childishly poke fun at them is really an expression of anxiety over the very existence of such unfortunate conditions, and fear of the possibility that it could be their kid.
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I would love to believe that that were true.

However, I am convinced that it is entirely derived from a lack of eloquence on the part of the name-caller. It's easier to call someone "a retard" than it is to call someone "ill-equipped to maintain this conversation".

Your use of the word "childish" is also interesting. Children are far more inventive when it comes to creating insults, but they always revolve around making fun of the local disadvantaged kid. It's like the kid who can't play sport is a "klutz". I was in this situation at school, and was referred to as "malco" for "mal-coordinated". I think that these insults stick into adulthood, and often surpass the self-realisation stage that comes as people start to make their own way in the real world. Children are also more sensitive to assessing the makeup of a social group and their position within that group. They then use this information to advance themselves by belittling those they perceive to be below themselves. The savagery with which this happens is horrific.
 
Abort every child with down's syndrome? The world would be better off without them?

I can't believe I am reading this from you people.

I have a cousin with Down's syndrome. She is 32 now and has the mental capacity of a 6 or 7 year old. Talking to my Aunt and Uncle you would never know they had a daughter with any problem. They talk with pride about her and her accomplishments. They are 2 of the most loving and caring people I have ever met. My Mom said that my Uncle wasn't always like that. Having a daughter with Down's Syndrome has changed him. It's taught him to care about someone who needs him. Someone who needs him more than a regular child needs a parent and for a much longer time. I know my Aunt and Uncle had their fears and doubts when she was born and for the first few years after they found out about her condition. They talk freely about their continued fears about their Daughter. If you ask them if they thought they made a mistake keeping her and not aborting her My Uncle would probably knock you on your butt for even suggesting such a thing. They both will readily admit that they are better people because of their Daughter.
Now that I have moved away from most of my family for my work I don't see my Cousin that much. Mostly just on Holidays. It's great to see her all excited waiting at the door when we go there for Christmas. She always gives the biggest hugs and is always the saddest to see us go.She is a part of our family. I look forward to seeing her. She has made us all better people because we have gotten the chance to know her and grow with her. I love my cousin very much and am lucky to have been part of her life.

Do I wish she would have been aborted so she wouldn't have been a burden on her parents and society? Do I wish she would never had been born so she wouldn't know the ridicule of ignorant people?

What do you think?
 
Originally posted by DGB454
Abort every child with down's syndrome? The world would be better off without them?

I can't believe I am reading this from you people.

I have a cousin with Down's syndrome. She is 32 now and has the mental capacity of a 6 or 7 year old. Talking to my Aunt and Uncle you would never know they had a daughter with any problem. They talk with pride about her and her accomplishments. They are 2 of the most loving and caring people I have ever met. My Mom said that my Uncle wasn't always like that. Having a daughter with Down's Syndrome has changed him. It's taught him to care about someone who needs him. Someone who needs him more than a regular child needs a parent and for a much longer time. I know my Aunt and Uncle had their fears and doubts when she was born and for the first few years after they found out about her condition. They talk freely about their continued fears about their Daughter. If you ask them if they thought they made a mistake keeping her and not aborting her My Uncle would probably knock you on your butt for even suggesting such a thing. They both will readily admit that they are better people because of their Daughter.
Now that I have moved away from most of my family for my work I don't see my Cousin that much. Mostly just on Holidays. It's great to see her all excited waiting at the door when we go there for Christmas. She always gives the biggest hugs and is always the saddest to see us go.She is a part of our family. I look forward to seeing her. She has made us all better people because we have gotten the chance to know her and grow with her. I love my cousin very much and am lucky to have been part of her life.

Do I wish she would have been aborted so she wouldn't have been a burden on her parents and society? Do I wish she would never had been born so she wouldn't know the ridicule of ignorant people?

What do you think?
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So are you saying that Down's Syndrome is beneficial and advantageous? It sounds like it. People have the ability to adapt to almost anything. It probably sounds cynical to you; it would to me, too, if my son was unexpectedly born with Down's Syndome, and I had no choice but to raise him as he was. Of course I'd love him just as much as I would otherwise. But if my wife and I knew well enough in advance, we'd have terminated the pregnancy and started over. It wouldn't have been what we wanted. I don't believe anybody wants a Down's kid, but people make the best of what they are dealt in life. And people also choose.

The central issue here is morality, and DGB and I have been around this block many times. If you believe that God sent you this particular baby for his own reasons and that it is not your place to question or usurp them, then clearly it is morally wrong to interfere with God's will. If you believe something else, like maybe that your baby is a life that you bring into the world with your own natural powers, then the responsibility is shifted, choice comes into play, and you must decide.
 
I know someone at the bowling alley that my parents are in a league in with Down's Syndrome. He is 32 years old and has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. To him, I'm one of his better friends. Personally, everyone should have a chance at life, some of them end up not being so bad and get jobs and cars and actual lives. You think they don't have emotion? **** you. They have just as much emotion as you do and you know it.
 

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