Don Imus, should he be fired?

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Should Don Imus be fired?

  • Fire him.

    Votes: 3 8.1%
  • Don't fire him.

    Votes: 17 45.9%
  • I don't care.

    Votes: 14 37.8%
  • Choose this option if you're confused.

    Votes: 3 8.1%

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I searched twice for this. Once under "Don Imus" and the second under "Nappy Headed Hos. Didn't find anything, so I'll continue.

If you haven't heard already, radio personality of like 40 years is under fire for calling the members of the Rutger's University women's basketball team "nappy-headed hos."

Read more. http://www.cnn.com/2007/SHOWBIZ/TV/04/11/imus.rutgers/index.html

If CNN isn't good enough for you, just look on any news site. You'll find something.

Anyhow, what do you think? Should Imus be fired? Should just serve his two week suspension? Should everyone just quit talking about it?
 
In all honesty, I hear worse from my neighbors. "he's got a big influnece on people!" No he doesn't.

He's like peeing into a flood. Sure it'll add to the volume, but what's already out there is far worse.

Should he have said it? No, there is a modicum of appropriateness we should follow. Should he be fired for saying it? No. Should his sponsors pull their ads? Sure, its their right to sponsor who they want.

I'd post more, but I can't stand listening to the guy talk anyways.
 
I hardly ever listen to the radio, don't really care, don't know who he is.

Deprived, I know.

I didn't know who he is and I listen to a lot of talk radio.

I think it was really a racist thing to say. But in America, it's your right to have that opinion. I can understand how the Rutgers players are hurt by the statement, but I just wish the media didn't spin this out of proportion. It's an idiot on a talk/TV Show that few people in the country watch(compared to other much more successful shows). I guarantee that most of the when most people heard of this incident, it was the first time they'd heard or seen Don Imus.

I'm not even going to get into the Al Sharpton aspect of this...👎
 
On one hand, I think people just get offended too easily. The Rutgers players should've taken his opinion at face value – not highly. Just brush it off and don't take it personally.

On the other hand, I don't think people on public TV/radio should be saying dumb things like "nappy headed hoes" on a semi-regular basis. The first time I even heard of Imus was when he said something stupid when the '04 elections were heating up. Go figure.

Personally, I'd fire him the next time he says something remotely racist/sexist/_____. I think Imus has had enough second chances.
 
Well, it seems like he's getting what he wanted. Come on, he obviously did it on purpose. It is way too rare, to see someone make a comment like that and then declare "ohh I feel terrible for what I have said and I will personally apologize to the team ." He's just an attention whore trying to get the media all hyped up about this. Because just like Swift said: "I guarantee that when most people heard of this incident, it was the first time they'd heard or seen Don Imus."
So now, tons of people will listen to him when he comes back from his stupid two week suspension.
 
I have known who Don Imus is for years. He was a shock jock for WNBC before Howard Stern was hired on. The Private Parts movie even has a scene with Imus telling Howard to 🤬 off, which is the only time you actually see him.

Don Imus' radio show is telecast on MSNBC in the morning and my dad just loves the show. I can't stand the guy. Sometimes I have to do things related to his show at my job and it is a headache inducing nightmare.

As a person, Don Imus does a lot for charity, even has his own boys camp on his ranch. However, he does speak his mind a lot. In fact, I've heard him say worse, it's just that this time someone got pissy. I hate his show and if he gets fired over this then I will celebrate, but that will have nothing to do with this incident.

As for his comments, perhaps I am a naive country boy, but I am having trouble finding this terribly offensive or extremely racially directed. I mean, the term ho gets thrown around so much at women in general that I didn't even associate it with black women. And nappy is a term I've used to describe a lot of things, all of which weren't black women. Maybe it was headed that was the problem?

The best I can figure is that nappy-headed refers to the fact that black women tend to have thicker, usually curly hair, and then hos can just be offensive anyway. Honestly this reminds me of when I made a joke about Bill Clinton turning to Hillary and saying, "Shut up, woman!" and this feminist went off on me for being derogatory towards women because I referred to her as (GASP!) woman. If nappy headed is derogatory what are people's thoughts towards the music group Nappy Roots? They are from Kentucky and might not see anything wrong with it, the same as me, but I am sure someone is in an outrage over their name.

You know, now that I think about it I can think of at least five white people I know that would fall under the term nappy-headed because of how their hair naturally grows. None of them are upset. Heck, even Don Imus could be called nappy-headed with the way his hair looks.

And then, I'm not even sure why Al Sharpton has to jump in on this. And when did he get a radio show? I work in media research and no one in my office knew he had a radio show. Talk about unimportant.

Anyway, if the company wants to fire Imus, then they have that right, if the sponsors want to pull out they have that right, and if the media wants to make an overblown deal about this they have that right. But Imus has the right to say whatever he wants and he could have used a much more derogatory phrase if he so chose. And if the girls at Rutgers want to get offended they have that right , but they need to understand they do not have the right to not be offended.

Has anything been achieved by this? Just that people are now aware that even seemingly innocent, yet rude, phrases can get you into trouble. But if you want an idea of just how bad this phrase was, the usually overbearing FCC hasn't done anything about this, to my knowledge.
 
On the grand scheme of things on the Imus show, this isn't the worst thing that has been said on there. As a matter of fact, I've heard much worse with guests on the air (today a local station was playing Imus with Andy Rooney, lets just say, even I was offended)...

...But why do we all of a sudden care now? Did we not already know that this guy was a douche? Beyond that, he apologized, and I think we should take his word for it...

With guys like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton all over him, I kinda think its a pot-called-kettle-black situation as well. Both of those men have made very racial comments towards Jews and other white folks, so why aren't they being gone-after by the media as well?

This whole situation has been blown completely out of context, and quite frankly I'm pretty much sick of it. Between this story, Anna Nicole, and whats left of the Duke case, my positive feelings for the media in this country have pretty much withered away completely...
 
Imus should only be fired if every rapper or other person who calls women hoes and etc. are also fired. Of course, I would love for that to happen, but it's not happening. You can't hold a double standard, and I'll stand up for Imus's freedom of speech anyway.

All I know is that Al Sharpton is a prick. He wouldn't give a rat's ass if Imus called the waspiest basketball team a bunch of honkey-headed hoes.
 
Don Imus made a mistake. He's a public figure who said something that being a public figure shouldn't say. He's been doing radio forever. He should have known that calling a group of mostly black basketball players would get Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson in an uproar. First off, both these guys are just plain idiots. Second, why does every media outlet and person under fire run to these fools when something is said about blacks. I have a lot of black friends and have seen on many television shows others who don't want these two biggots speaking for them.

This whole incident really ticks me off. I still think it's stupid that white Americans can't have White Entertainment Television without the two above mentioned fools and tons of other people causing a media onslaught calling it racism. Yet, we have a Black Entertainment Television channel.

Ads that have been taken from the show is the advertisers business. Nobody wants their brand associated with racism or Don Imus, it's understandable. What's it mean for him though? That's a lot of lost money. His guest list is in question too. Many to be guests for his radio show have pulled out. Before the incident though, politicians and book writers were lined up weeks in advance.

Let him keep his radio gig. Taking the TV show off the air is enough. He said something stupid. I feel confident in saying that of all the people you've seen covering this in the media, more than a few of them have laughed at a black joke. I certainly have. :)
 
Second, why does every media outlet and person under fire run to these fools when something is said about blacks.

They don't run to them. Al and Jesse make their jackass remarks, and the media won't fight back because of the fear of being labeled racist.
 
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They don't run to them. Al and Jesse make their jackass remarks, and the media won't fight back because of the fear of being labeled racist.

Just have a media blackout on them like they did Paris Hilton. Maybe it'll hardly be noticed.

But probably not. White people in the public phear being called racists.
 
OK, so he's gone. Now what happens? All the stupid racists idiotioc slurs by BLACK guys are going to actually get looked at? Nope, because that would be logical. Even my parents jumped on this radically stupid bandwagon.

Too bad for Imus. I don't feel sorry for him as it's his own fault. But why would a bunch of college athletes care in the slightest that some hillbilly thinks they're nappy headed hoes? I couldn't be more serious when I asked that question.

The ONLY people that can hurt my feelings are the people I care about. If you're not friend or family, it's borderline impossible for you to offend me like this. Now, I've been offended. But each time it's been from people I care about and that I thought cared about me. This situation is some idiot exercising his first amendment rights. So what? Nobody knows him, cares what he thinks or would've given this a second thought if the two "reverends" wouldn't have made a big deal out of it.
 
Now he'll come back bigger than before.
Personally, I don't give a rat's ass about his comments re: Rutger's women's b-ball team.
Why didn't the guy who Imus was talking to, who instigated the whole mess get more mention? He called them "tattooed hos", then Imus upped the ante.

That **** isn't even "racism".
Racism is when your girl breaks up with you because her daddy can't see past the color of your skin.
Racism is being picked first (or last) for a particular sport, not because of your skill,or lack therof, but because of the color of your skin. (Imagine the suprise when they found out I couldn't dribble with both hands, and wouldln't drive the lane)
Racism, is when you get a bad grade on a paper due to the color of your skin. After all, you're black and from the ghetto, you can't possibly posses that kind of vocabulary.
Racism is being pulled over and having your car searched, (racial profiling) because you can't possibly "legally" make the kind of money neccessary to buy that car.
For the record, I've had all happen to me or someone close to me
Kinda makes the whole "Nappy headed hos" thing look a bit trivial, doesn't it?

Besides, anyone who watches BET comicview, will hear worse crap about black people from black people. Further, black comics make fun of white people all the time. I've yet to hear David Dukes come on BET or on Al Sharpton's show to bitch and moan about it.

I think it's a big double standard. Imus let his comedy get out of hand. Big whoop. Mel Gibson got forgiveness, "Kramer" got forgiveness, so why is Imus being hung out to dry?
I don't really even like the guy, but he's getting BOHICA'd
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Gil
I think it's a big double standard. Imus let his comedy get out of hand. Big whoop. Mel Gibson got forgiveness, "Kramer" got forgiveness, so why is Imus being hung out to dry?
I don't really even like the guy, but he's getting BOHICA'd
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Sure is; especially after KKKramer.

Also, Duck, you're wrong. I saw Al Sharpton talking to this one anchor guy (he had blonde hair and was white; forgot his name and the station.) who was roasting the hell out of Sharpton. Sharpton basically looked like a moron.
 
This reminds me of the SP episode where Stan's dad had to kiss Jesse Jacksons ass. I hate that he seems to be the "spokesperson" for ANYONE who was remotely offended by something they say all the time. I think that If people of a different color (white) arent allowed to say the n-word, or "ho", no one should! And how come they can call us "cracker" or "white boy" but if you say "that black kid" you're gonna get crucified??? :grumpy:
 
Here's a really good article:



Jason Whitlock
Imus isn’t the real bad guy
Instead of wasting time on irrelevant shock jock, black leaders need to be fighting a growing gangster culture.
By JASON WHITLOCK - Columnist

Thank you, Don Imus. You’ve given us (black people) an excuse to avoid our real problem.

You’ve given Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson another opportunity to pretend that the old fight, which is now the safe and lucrative fight, is still the most important fight in our push for true economic and social equality.

You’ve given Vivian Stringer and Rutgers the chance to hold a nationally televised recruiting celebration expertly disguised as a news conference to respond to your poor attempt at humor.

Thank you, Don Imus. You extended Black History Month to April, and we can once again wallow in victimhood, protest like it’s 1965 and delude ourselves into believing that fixing your hatred is more necessary than eradicating our self-hatred.

The bigots win again.

While we’re fixated on a bad joke cracked by an irrelevant, bad shock jock, I’m sure at least one of the marvelous young women on the Rutgers basketball team is somewhere snapping her fingers to the beat of 50 Cent’s or Snoop Dogg’s or Young Jeezy’s latest ode glorifying nappy-headed pimps and hos.

I ain’t saying Jesse, Al and Vivian are gold-diggas, but they don’t have the heart to mount a legitimate campaign against the real black-folk killas.

It is us. At this time, we are our own worst enemies. We have allowed our youths to buy into a culture (hip hop) that has been perverted, corrupted and overtaken by prison culture. The music, attitude and behavior expressed in this culture is anti-black, anti-education, demeaning, self-destructive, pro-drug dealing and violent.

Rather than confront this heinous enemy from within, we sit back and wait for someone like Imus to have a slip of the tongue and make the mistake of repeating the things we say about ourselves.

It’s embarrassing. Dave Chappelle was offered $50 million to make racially insensitive jokes about black and white people on TV. He was hailed as a genius. Black comedians routinely crack jokes about white and black people, and we all laugh out loud.

I’m no Don Imus apologist. He and his tiny companion Mike Lupica blasted me after I fell out with ESPN. Imus is a hack.

But, in my view, he didn’t do anything outside the norm for shock jocks and comedians. He also offered an apology. That should’ve been the end of this whole affair. Instead, it’s only the beginning. It’s an opportunity for Stringer, Jackson and Sharpton to step on victim platforms and elevate themselves and their agenda$.

I watched the Rutgers news conference and was ashamed.

Martin Luther King Jr. spoke for eight minutes in 1963 at the March on Washington. At the time, black people could be lynched and denied fundamental rights with little thought. With the comments of a talk-show host most of her players had never heard of before last week serving as her excuse, Vivian Stringer rambled on for 30 minutes about the amazing season her team had.

Somehow, we’re supposed to believe that the comments of a man with virtually no connection to the sports world ruined Rutgers’ wonderful season. Had a broadcaster with credibility and a platform in the sports world uttered the words Imus did, I could understand a level of outrage.

But an hourlong press conference over a man who has already apologized, already been suspended and is already insignificant is just plain intellectually dishonest. This is opportunism. This is a distraction.

In the grand scheme, Don Imus is no threat to us in general and no threat to black women in particular. If his words are so powerful and so destructive and must be rebuked so forcefully, then what should we do about the idiot rappers on BET, MTV and every black-owned radio station in the country who use words much more powerful and much more destructive?

I don’t listen or watch Imus’ show regularly. Has he at any point glorified selling crack cocaine to black women? Has he celebrated black men shooting each other randomly? Has he suggested in any way that it’s cool to be a baby-daddy rather than a husband and a parent? Does he tell his listeners that they’re suckers for pursuing education and that they’re selling out their race if they do?

When Imus does any of that, call me and I’ll get upset. Until then, he is what he is — a washed-up shock jock who is very easy to ignore when you’re not looking to be made a victim.

No. We all know where the real battleground is. We know that the gangsta rappers and their followers in the athletic world have far bigger platforms to negatively define us than some old white man with a bad radio show. There’s no money and lots of danger in that battle, so Jesse and Al are going to sit it out.

http://www.kansascity.com/182/story/66339.html
 
^ And what is great about the idiocy of the whole situation is that he will be called out by black people around the country for selling-out his race and criticisng the comunity. They (African Americans) will never be happy, no matter how much we try to appease them, and it makes me sick. No matter what you do, you're a racist just because you're white, when in fact the people themselves are worse than most of the people outside of the group...

...Its madness I say. There is a jackass radio guy around here who goes nuts about stuff like this and actually has the balls to not only use some racial slurs against white folks when they disagree with him, he does it with the black folks as well...

Robert S, believe it or not, called out the City of Grand Rapids for spending too much money on the funeral for President Gerald Ford. The idiot seems to think it would have been better-spent on schools or something, not commemorating one of the most-important Presidents of the 20th Century. What a jackass...
 
I seriously find it hard to believe that Al Sharpton really buys into his B.S. I think if thruth be told he knows inside that he is blowing this out of proportion doing it all for publicity. If he really stands for what he says he stands for, why is he not doing something about the poverty rate of monorities, or why doesnt he try to get rap music banned from the radio, or try to do something about the gang rates? He saw this as an opportunity to get on T.V. once again. The only reason this is an issue, is because Sharpton made it an issue. If everyone had just let it go, no one would have noticed. What really gets me is that these girls are saying, "Imus ruined our moment of grace.". How about you thank your buddy Al for that because if it wasnt for him making a media rape of this, they would never have known. All the time and resources that Sharpton and other civil rights leaders used to get some hack jock fired over a simple ignorant comment, could have been more wisely used.

He'll forgive a murdering piece like 'Tookie' Williams, but what Imus did is apparently a big no-no.

Now let me clear this up. I do not condone what Imus said, I agree it was a hurtful comment. My point is: there are simply much larger fish to fry.
 
CNN article
CBS said "all of us have been deeply upset and revulsed by the statements that were made on our air," in a written statement from CBS President and Chief Executive Officer Leslie Moonves, announcing the decision
Odd that it was a two week suspension until this happened:
The disparaging remark prompted eight companies to pull their ads from Imus' show: Staples, General Motors, Sprint Nextel, GlaxoSmithKline, Procter & Gamble, PetMed Express, American Express and Bigelow Tea.
Were the deeply upset and revulsed by the statements or the loss in revenue?

Come on, Les, you can admit it. You were going to start losing money and the show was no longer profitable. Admit it is a simple matter of economics. Quit putting a big moral face on and acting like you are surprised that a man known for being a shock jock surprised you with his shocking statement.

Don Imus has been fired for doing what he was hired to do. It reminds me of the Rush Limbaugh on ESPN thing.

So, how long before Imus is on satellite?
 
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What shocks me most is that someone was awake enough to hear Dom Imus for more than 30 seconds. He should have evening shows, not morning shows, so narcoleptic reactions don't occur on America's highways.

I'm sick of all racist scumbags, regardless of race. Good riddance.
 
I really think Imus should be fired, just for the fact he tells dumb jokes... And sometimes they're hurtful. Bust they're not always funny. Like for the fact he said about the Rutgers, I mean, how dumb must you be to say that. Like this post I put, I found a joke about it, and it got me laughing quick.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showpost.php?p=2632604&postcount=704

It's just that he doesn't deserve his own show on the radio. Now that's it's done and said, we don't have much to really worry about.

And then on a different note, there's people talking about this and saying how hip-hop plays a major role in this too. I disagree a lot. I listen to hip-hop my self and I enjoy it much. It's just the mainstream type that gets to everybody and it makes you do bad things.

They're taking this and making a bigger deal than it is. Instead of stepping forward and settings some rules, Sharpton and Jackson are really just defending themselves from further attacks, which is stupid and idiotic.
 
^ And what is great about the idiocy of the whole situation is that he will be called out by black people around the country for selling-out his race and criticisng the comunity. They (African Americans) will never be happy, no matter how much we try to appease them, and it makes me sick. No matter what you do, you're a racist just because you're white, when in fact the people themselves are worse than most of the people outside of the group...

...Its madness I say. There is a jackass radio guy around here who goes nuts about stuff like this and actually has the balls to not only use some racial slurs against white folks when they disagree with him, he does it with the black folks as well...
Keep in mind that some of "them" (African Americans), do not hold with Imus, Sharpton, or that assbite Jesse Jackson.
So in a way you're generalizing. (to SOME extent I AM pullng your chain:) )
Carlos Mencia, of all people, said it best. Paraphrasing, his reasoning is that we should make fun of everybody equally, or no one.

BTW, if you DON'T expect some ass-hatteryby the people that have voices loud enough to be heard and re-broadcast by the media, you are sadly deluded.

My old man used to tell me that in this sort of arena, keep your eyes on the guy that has the most to say. He's usually the one with the most to hide.👍
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"Can't we all just get along?"
 
I didn't know who he is and I listen to a lot of talk radio.

I think it was really a racist thing to say. But in America, it's your right to have that opinion. I can understand how the Rutgers players are hurt by the statement, but I just wish the media didn't spin this out of proportion. It's an idiot on a talk/TV Show that few people in the country watch(compared to other much more successful shows). I guarantee that most of the when most people heard of this incident, it was the first time they'd heard or seen Don Imus.

I'm not even going to get into the Al Sharpton aspect of this...👎
I believe it was sexist. :)

Well, it seems like he's getting what he wanted. Come on, he obviously did it on purpose. It is way too rare, to see someone make a comment like that and then declare "ohh I feel terrible for what I have said and I will personally apologize to the team ." He's just an attention whore trying to get the media all hyped up about this. Because just like Swift said: "I guarantee that when most people heard of this incident, it was the first time they'd heard or seen Don Imus."
So now, tons of people will listen to him when he comes back from his stupid two week suspension.
Don Imus has over 1 million listerners per week. He has a couple charitys before.

He's not famous, but he's not unheard of.

Imus should only be fired if every rapper or other person who calls women hoes and etc. are also fired. Of course, I would love for that to happen, but it's not happening. You can't hold a double standard, and I'll stand up for Imus's freedom of speech anyway.

All I know is that Al Sharpton is a prick. He wouldn't give a rat's ass if Imus called the waspiest basketball team a bunch of honkey-headed hoes.
Agreed. 👍

Gil
Keep in mind that some of "them" (African Americans), do not hold with Imus, Sharpton, or that assbite Jesse Jackson.
So in a way you're generalizing. (to SOME extent I AM pullng your chain:) )
Carlos Mencia, of all people, said it best. Paraphrasing, his reasoning is that we should make fun of everybody equally, or no one.

BTW, if you DON'T expect some ass-hatteryby the people that have voices loud enough to be heard and re-broadcast by the media, you are sadly deluded.

My old man used to tell me that in this sort of arena, keep your eyes on the guy that has the most to say. He's usually the one with the most to hide.👍
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"Can't we all just get along?"
Except that Carlos Mencia doesn't follow his own rules. When an event happens, he just adds a racist joke to that event and calls it a joke. You'll never see that joke be applied to any other race.

If a black man is caught in some event, he'll make a black joke. That's it. He won't apply it to whites, Mexicans, or Asians. If you're lucky, he'll make another un-needed Middle Eastern joke.

Carlos Mencia is not a comedian nor a person whose opinion is worth listening to. He uses his show to make racist/sterotypical comments, and puts forth his opinion as a fact, and then adds a joke to keep it "funny".


IMHO, this is far from over. Rappers defense so far, has been that their music is "Artistic" which somehow in God's name, makes their music free from being prosecuted.


So remember everyone, don't EVER make a bad comment about black people or women unless you're singing a song. Because, amazingly, a song about "Hoes" and "N-Word" and "Shooting People" as well as "Running from White Cops" makes you Artistic.



God, what a stupid country I call home sometimes. It's a wonder I don't move to England.
 
Mclaren,
I never claimed Mencia as any kind of saint, or someone to emulate. If you'll READ what YOU underlined from my post, you will note the "of all people" between the commas.
BTW, I am not calling you out. I'm clarifying my position.
He is among those that commit some asshattery because their voices are loud enough to be noted and broadcast by the media.
I am often irritated that my "race" is represented by Al Sharpton, and Jesse Jackson.
To paraphrase my friend Joey, from another thread:
We (humans) are like cars. All the same model, with different paint jobs.
 
That's hilarious. I find it ironic that the "reverend" are the ones who are always pointing fingers and blame instead of forgiving and understanding.

I would never consider either Jackson or Sharpton to be a reverend of anykind
 
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