Drift help

[DeolTheBeast]

I really enjoy drifting and want to improve.
So as you would you try it for yourself, which I did and I failed.
I turned to helpful videos on youtube, and the various threads here at GT planet.
I follow the setups and my cars do feel easier to drift. But in my opinion I just can't get it right. My best score on Eiger Nordwand is 5000 with a 350Z with a good recommended setup- in my eyes that is a bad score. The problem is that I can't take in any of the advice. I always seem to spin or get points for what behind the wheel feels like understeer, which I find very annoying and frustrating.
I have to work extremely hard with the wheel to even manage a short slide.
Can anyone, just explain some easy tips to me that will help me.
(I use a Logitech Driving Force wheel with FFB of 8) and I have all aids off apart from ABS.

 

[kwentyne]

bro believe me i felt the same way when i started and i started in jan 09. i am getting it little by little but what u need to do is keep practicing and slowly but surly your natural instinct to correct the drift which usually leads to ending it will die down. u must learn the car and feel its movement through the wheel. i know it sounds like bull right now... i sure felt the same way. right now nuttin will beat lots of practice. u should check out slaphappyfranky's vid on this forum as well. it will give u an idea of how handle the wheel.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114550

 

[articzap]

The best advice I can offer anyone with a wheel is to not go by what you see on the screen. If you wait to see it on the screen, then react to that, it will be way to late. Feel what the wheel is telling you to do.

 

[DeolTheBeast]

Thanks guys, every little bit helps

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

bro believe me i felt the same way when i started and i started in jan 09. i am getting it little by little but what u need to do is keep practicing and slowly but surly your natural instinct to correct the drift which usually leads to ending it will die down. u must learn the car and feel its movement through the wheel. i know it sounds like bull right now... i sure felt the same way. right now nuttin will beat lots of practice. u should check out slaphappyfranky's vid on this forum as well. it will give u an idea of how handle the wheel.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=114550

Thanks, also I updated it with the new vid that has better lighting. Also I have the tune in the info pane on the right.

Here is the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJO9b9ptbCM

 

[DeolTheBeast]

Thanks SLAPHAPPYFRANKY, this might start a breakthrough to better score.

 

[DeolTheBeast]

The thing is though: How is your steering so quick, my DFP's steering was 8 FFB, but I couldn't steer fast enough, so I changed it to 1 and now its pretty quick but not your G25 quick. Could you tell me your steering set up too please. Thanks btw I really appreciate some understandable help that does not overwhelm a beginner like myself. I squeezed another 1000+ points out, on top of my previous records, so something must be clicking

 

[articzap]

The DFP will never steer as fast as the G25 or DFGT.

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

Yea, its the wheel holding you back, but anyhow my FFB is at 7, no active steer.

 

[DeolTheBeast]

Oh well the DFP is still a great wheel, and it does the job the same as the DFGT.
However the youtube GT5 DK uses a DFP, inspiring me onward. His user is on the leaderboards in the top 20, on quite a few tracks, especially Eiger. His youtube account has the same name and is MartinZ340, or something like that. Check him out he is an excellent drifter.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

Oh well the DFP is still a great wheel, and it does the job the same as the DFGT.
However the youtube GT5 DK uses a DFP, inspiring me onward. His user is on the leaderboards in the top 20, on quite a few tracks, especially Eiger. His youtube account has the same name and is MartinZ340, or something like that. Check him out he is an excellent drifter.

Martinz340 is a very good drifter. He was actually on the forum, but he got banned/kicked since he didn't have a great attitude. But definatley had a lot of skill using the DFP. The DFP works fine, but i noticed my drifting become a lot smoother and easier to handle with the G25. Not "needed" but it helps. 👍

 

[articzap]

LOL!!! Martin is not all that great at all. He's nothing compared to most of the XAT drift guys. DFP is a great wheel and that's what I use. I can spin my wheel as fast as any G25, you just got to be on top of the wheel.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

LOL!!! Martin is not all that great at all. He's nothing compared to most of the XAT drift guys. DFP is a great wheel and that's what I use. I can spin my wheel as fast as any G25, you just got to be on top of the wheel.

From the video's i've seen and his wheel work video's he does have a good grasp of drifting and it's concepts. Smoothe and good lines and seemed to have good wheel input. I'de like to see wheel video's of the other guys. I always find it interesting to see how everyone works the wheel and different styles of drifting.

You can see my few video's here

http://www.youtube.com/user/snuffyboy3

i'm nowhere the best, or the worste. I just love drifting. I can't wait for full gt5, private rooms and more cars and circuits. It's worth the wait and with all the gt5 banners on d1 cars, i can't see how they won't make their way into the game.

 

[DeolTheBeast]

Out of interest, I have my wheel attached to an ironing board. (Sad I know). However it does give me height adjustment. The wheel doesn't move off the board but it could be stuck on slightly more solidly. Would a heavier more solid table be more useful?

 

[SLAPHAPPYFRANKY]

Yes it would be necessary to have a heavy table or something more solid. As you can see in my vid I have a heavy end table. The ironing board is gonna move alot I would suspect.

 

[beanheadio]

I destroyed an chair and made a set up for my wheel and it works really well... try it.

RE drifting when i watch the replays of step his car scemes to handle really well. is it the car or is it his skill. I cant decide.

 

[kwentyne]

bro u need to throw that ironing board away. get yourself a computer cart at least. something heavy and study! when i was leaning to drift i was using a really light folding table and had lots of probs drifting. (cause its like u have to almost balance the table while driving). as soon as i got a better more study table my drifting improved 10 fold. i was able to feel the wheel better and was able to devote all of my attention to the wheel and the drifting! so get something more sturdy and u will see an improvement almost right away i can tell u that much from experience.

"RE drifting when i watch the replays of step his car scemes to handle really well. is it the car or is it his skill. I cant decide. "

dude step is a freak. i dont even think the game knows how he/she does that crap lol.
but honestly i have realised that u can handle the car very well with practice on the wheel. so i am assuming it is the driver in this case and not just the car. Cause step does drive many cars!

 

[beanheadio]

Agree about the wheel dude. Much better with a fixed setup. get it done.

Re Drifting The weight change on high speed ring just before the last corner. My car dont handle that as well as his... I have tried everything setup wise to make it better. But Failed......

Can I have a look at your set up and compare it with mine please.....pm me and i will send u mine lets say the GTR proto 05.......

Apprechated

 

[DeolTheBeast]

Cool guys, I'll get hold of a table.

 

[articzap]

Weight transitions are more in the driver then the setup. I find that if making the spring rates both 1 notch higher doesn't solve the problem, then it's the way you're driving.