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- x_XNyordiaX_x
It's not a great drift car. Not for beginners, not for experienced drifters.
Try Silvia's, and feel the difference.
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- Thread starter CJ tha KIDD
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It's not a great drift car. Not for beginners, not for experienced drifters.
Try Silvia's, and feel the difference.
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- NJ
- sulfagraffiti
It's not a great drift car. Not for beginners, not for experienced drifters.
Try Silvia's, and feel the difference.
It's not a bad drift car though. It's all about what you like. Hell, somebody can drift a mini van if its built right and they have the skill. It all comes down to what your comfortable with. Experienced drifters would probably want something with more power And beginners I would recommend the 02" Silvia. Or the 98 I believe is the year old the older one. Not sure.
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- NJ
- sulfagraffiti
- 2,802
- Michigan
- QuintenXavier
- Xbox_Is_Gay
Thanks!
- 2,624
- The Hague
- Duman079
It's not a great drift car. Not for beginners, not for experienced drifters.
Try Silvia's, and feel the difference.
You ( in general) really need to know how to tune the S2000. I used to have a S2000 tune which could keep up with knight spirit his ISF. Since I lost my data I couldn't get the same one again, I tried to tune it again but ... well it failed pretty much.
All I can say is that the High RPM Turbos are bad on all Honda's FF or FR, they get insane turbo lag. Or you need very short gears, but that gives the car a weird feeling at high RPM, it feels like boost.
I'm not telling that this is the only way to drift, it is just a suggestion in the hope you can drift a bit more smooth.
- 3,455
- Brisbane
- Uriehusky
- Uriehusky
Dom never understood my love for S2000s
I offered to give her my tune for it but she politely declined. So I wouldn't worry yourself over it suggesting stuff like this, everyone has their preference 👍
There's no need to learn how to tune something if the interest isn't there to begin with.
The S2000 picks its driver, it's a particular car to get the most out of so it's understandable.
- 2,624
- The Hague
- Duman079
Dom never understood my love for S2000s
So I wouldn't worry yourself over it suggesting stuff like this, everyone has their preference 👍
There's no need to learn how to tune something if the interest isn't there to begin with.
No but my post wasn't meant towards Dom, it was a general post. I just quoted her because my answer was related to that post and I added you (in general), so I wanted to avoid people thinking that I meant it personally.
I know Dom good enough
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- 3,455
- Brisbane
- Uriehusky
- Uriehusky
No but my post wasn't meant towards Dom, it was a general post. I just quoted her because my answer was related to that post and I added you (in general), so I wanted to avoid people thinking that I meant it personally.
I know Dom good enough
I figured as much but I felt it was worth mentioning
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- The__Ghost__Z
As someone who never particularly liked the S2000 and haven't spent some time tuning it... what versions (aside from the absurd AEM, GT1 and GT1 turbo) are particularly sought after as drift cars? I've considered using the Mugen S2000 myself. Is the Amuse R1 or Spoon S2000 considered much different? I'd be particularly interested if there was one that had a displacement increase (aka STROKE) to bump up mid-range torque.
- 3,455
- Brisbane
- Uriehusky
- Uriehusky
When I'm doing a more serious run I'll use the Amuse S2000 R1, but when I'm relaxing I'll simply use the premium model.
The S2000 does lack torque I'll concede, however there's a very.. how to put it..
Delicate technique? I'm not sure how to describe it really because of the cars nature..
I'm sure anybody can throw an S2000 around a corner but to really get it to work for you it's rather particular.
Given your attitude you've displayed towards me in the past you're all about optimising. Getting the car that can offer the most at certain skill levels.
I'm not of that mindset personally, I believe comfort and preference are key.
To be frank I'm not sure the S2000 will meld with you to be perfectly honest. But I know very little about you so I can only speculate.
What I will say though; try it yourself and don't just discard it as rubbish after a couple of runs.
Give it a while, if it still doesn't work for you the S2000 simply doesn't agree with you.
Just to be clear I don't believe that drifting an S2000 makes you superior or that I'm any more skilled than anyone else because I can drift it. I don't want anybody to get the wrong idea and think that I have some kind of superiority complex
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- The__Ghost__Z
You misunderstand me. I don't care to optimize "the right car" at certain skill levels. I optimize without regard for skill level. I don't tune my cars to match driving styles, I tune them to do specific tasks that, in the hands of a perfect driver, should theoretically result in exceptional performance. Then, I learn to drive them in that manner as perfectly as possible.
Most drifters tune and practice to match their idiosyncrasies and habits to get higher performance, but that is not the highest possible performance.
To put it simply, if I can't make a car do what I want in my head, but it should theoretically be able to do what I want, its obvious that I just need to practice and research tuning until I can. Often times now when I select a car to work on, with the tuning method I employ, it doesn't take long to figure out what the thresholds for performance are for the vehicle, it could just be a half hour or driving that's required, since all of the optimization has already been done on paper or in my head.
The issue with the S2000 is, based on my previous research into drifting tuning, it is predisposed to have a lower envelope of performance than other cars. That depends on what you consider 'performance', which for me is a combination of capacity for speed, adaptability to many/all circumstances, and effectiveness of the car's angle and rotation during drift. Based on my guesses so far, if I spent the usual effort in getting the most out of the S2000 (or at least finding its limits) they wouldn't be particularly impressive, but also not bad. I haven't had the time to figure out just where it falls on the line though. I did drift the Mugen S2000 quite a bit, but that was more just to try it out, there wasn't real time spent getting the most out of the car.
In the end, the S2000 is just a car. Four wheels, engine, etc. Just like any car, to get the most requires a skilled driver. However, what "the most" out of an S2000 is, based on real aspects of the car you cannot change, may not be as effective as many other cars. What might appear as a tempermental or "disagreeing" car, is a combination of actual real things that happen in the game, that, like triggers starting a reaction, cause you to feel something in return. The emotional aspect of drifting is just as logical as the mathematical one.
Most drifters tune and practice to match their idiosyncrasies and habits to get higher performance, but that is not the highest possible performance.
To put it simply, if I can't make a car do what I want in my head, but it should theoretically be able to do what I want, its obvious that I just need to practice and research tuning until I can. Often times now when I select a car to work on, with the tuning method I employ, it doesn't take long to figure out what the thresholds for performance are for the vehicle, it could just be a half hour or driving that's required, since all of the optimization has already been done on paper or in my head.
The issue with the S2000 is, based on my previous research into drifting tuning, it is predisposed to have a lower envelope of performance than other cars. That depends on what you consider 'performance', which for me is a combination of capacity for speed, adaptability to many/all circumstances, and effectiveness of the car's angle and rotation during drift. Based on my guesses so far, if I spent the usual effort in getting the most out of the S2000 (or at least finding its limits) they wouldn't be particularly impressive, but also not bad. I haven't had the time to figure out just where it falls on the line though. I did drift the Mugen S2000 quite a bit, but that was more just to try it out, there wasn't real time spent getting the most out of the car.
In the end, the S2000 is just a car. Four wheels, engine, etc. Just like any car, to get the most requires a skilled driver. However, what "the most" out of an S2000 is, based on real aspects of the car you cannot change, may not be as effective as many other cars. What might appear as a tempermental or "disagreeing" car, is a combination of actual real things that happen in the game, that, like triggers starting a reaction, cause you to feel something in return. The emotional aspect of drifting is just as logical as the mathematical one.
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- 3,455
- Brisbane
- Uriehusky
- Uriehusky
I do apologise. It was how I had interpreted what you were saying as you seemed very focused on what the optimal car was in the last thread we talked.
Your mindset goes a lot deeper than I had first thought, I have watched you in a completely not creepy stalker in a bush kind of way for a while now, reading your thesis but not commenting on it and you're a rather interesting guy.
Seeing what you can pull out of my beloved S2000 would be rather interesting, so if it's all the same to you I would really rather appreciate it if you would discuss this with me further in private as to not further clutter this thread.
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- United States
- The__Ghost__Z
I edited my post for some clarity, it was a little garbled before.
I'll work on the S2000 some time in the future, and I'll let you know what I find. I'll start with the Mugen, and then compare it to the Premium, Standards, Opera, AEM, R1, and Spoon variations. Given some of the oddities of the S2000 compared to other drift cars, who knows, it might surprise me.
I'll work on the S2000 some time in the future, and I'll let you know what I find. I'll start with the Mugen, and then compare it to the Premium, Standards, Opera, AEM, R1, and Spoon variations. Given some of the oddities of the S2000 compared to other drift cars, who knows, it might surprise me.
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