DRIFT_My car is hugging the inside, and oversteering too much, please help

[Tulok]

it is an S15 Silvia Spec R-power 293hp
Suspension F/R
4.5 lb/in / 4.5 lb/in
100in / 107in
Damper lvls 5/7
Camber 2.3/0.9
everything else is non adjustable ATM
Parts:
Sports normal
Turbo level 1
Intercooler 1
LSD adjustable
settings
15
25
8

is there a Onveia in the game, in any GT games?

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm not sure what a Onveia is. As far as your problem goes, your suspension set up doesn't seem that radical...but you've got sports tires up front and normal tires in the rear which means your front-end is gonna be a lot grippier than the rear; hence you're "hugging the inside and oversteering" as you say.

I'm assuming you've already driven with both front & rear tires as either all normals or all sports, and thus you're now trying a combo of both. 👍 Since your'e apparently wanting to drift (and I would assume don't wanna change your tires) I would try lowering the rear and raising the front so more weight is sitting on those back tires. Also, you could try lowering the rear dampers so they're not "kicking weight forward. Let us know if this helps.

 

[Tulok]

actually, im running both normal tires.
Ok, I started out by making the
dampers 5/5, and the
ride height 106/100
but the rear end felt too sluggish, and it would take a little too much enforcing to slide,
i am gonna try it with the original damper setting in a minute...

EDIT
With the dampers set back to 5/6, and the ride height 106/100 it is wonderful,
though I think a stiffer accel on the Diff. might help a little, thanks Parnelli Bone!

 

[S31Ender]

Just a guess, I'm throwing this out there as it's what I was doing back in GT3......



Are you not entering the corner enough and then giving it too much near the end to compensate?

I found that as I approached the corner, I was travelling too slowly and my rear tires were slowing down, regaining their grip. It would push me to the inside of the corner. When I noticed this, I would hop back on the throttle to compensate....get the rear tires spinning, lose their grip and hope it was enough to get that car sliding further out away from the inside of the corner. However, I would then, in my panic, give it too much throttle and wind up oversteering into a spinout.

So I had to correct, enter the corner SLIGHTLY faster to keep those rear tires spinning at speed and then give it a little less throttle IF I started to work too far inside too early.

Half of drifting is your entry speed. Once you've nailed the proper entry speed, the rest is merely maintaining the drift.


Man, I miss Pergatory.......................(anyone other than mods still remember him?) He'd have you drifting in no time, he was very good at diagnosing what you're doing wrong and work it out of you. Sigh, but he's been missing from this place for a long time now.

 

[Venari]

No, no One-via. There is a SilEighty (I call 'em bluffcoupes), but not the 'pop-up sedan'.

V.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

No, no One-via. There is a SilEighty (I call 'em bluffcoupes), but not the 'pop-up sedan'.

V.

I'm still confused. What's a one-via? What's a pop-up sedan?

 

[slowman]

OneVia: 180SX front end, Silvia rear end
SilEighty: S13 Silvia front end, 180SX rear end

SilEighty's were actually made by the Nissan factory in Japan. If I remember correctly, there were maybe less than 200 made. They are very rare and collectible.

It all started with enthusiasts in Japan who modified Silvias or 180's to take the other cars front end. I believe there were only of the S13 body style.

 

[S31Ender]

True.

The drift community in Japan would crack up their front ends. When they would replace them, they noticed that the silvia front end was cheaper and it fit (since they were pretty much the same car). So they would order it up and slap it on. It caught the notice of Kids Heart and they contacted Nissan. Nissan gave them the go ahead to produce a limited number (500) of official "Nissan" SilEightys for the 1998 model year.

The name SilEighty refers to these cars. Now, many people have done their own conversion to a SilEighty but it's not exact, since the SilEighty wasn't JUST the front end. The official SilEighty had a new ECU, a stiffer suspension system, an improved limited slip differential, and an increase in turbocharger boost from 7 psi to about 13 psi. It had 230 horsepower instead of the 205 the 180's came with.

A true SilEighty (or even a true repli-Eighty) is of the S13 style. But because the models were so easy to switch body parts, it was also popular to change out different model years and everything. Even to the point of what Wikipedia calls the Sil-Fifteen Eighty. It's a silvia S15 Front with a 180 Rear. But I don't consider that real.

 

[Tulok]

cool that you bought a real Sileighty! in the Us, we just call onevias 240sx coupes, but you probably knew it...
also, the 'Sil-Fifteen Eighty' is called a Strawberry-faced one-eighty/two-forty... strawberry from ichi-go(one five) which is close to ichigo-strawberry.
I ended up ditching the s15, but my r34 gts-25t is doing great, I havent played gt2 for a while now, thanks again.

About entrance speed, it was partially entrance speed, but I noticed a distinct correction after the new settings(I dont panic wiht the throttle really, it takes me a lot of corners to get the right amount of throttle...)

 

[Parnelli Bone]

cool that you bought a real Sileighty! in the Us, we just call onevias 240sx coupes, but you probably knew it...
also, the 'Sil-Fifteen Eighty' is called a Strawberry-faced one-eighty/two-forty... strawberry from ichi-go(one five) which is close to ichigo-strawberry.
I ended up ditching the s15, but my r34 gts-25t is doing great, I havent played gt2 for a while now, thanks again.

About entrance speed, it was partially entrance speed, but I noticed a distinct correction after the new settings(I dont panic wiht the throttle really, it takes me a lot of corners to get the right amount of throttle...)

So I assume you got some drift action going?

 

[Skygrasper550]

first of all, you should not buy full-racing parts (Full-Custom Suspension, LSD) which
are not ideal for drifting. only the Full-Racing Transmission is good in all of the Full-Custom parts

you should not buy the Full-Custom LSD, it destroys the balance of your car. instead, buy the 1.5way LSD.

next, you should not use different tires (Front-Sports Rear-Normal) use Sports Tires on both

next, your damper level is too high. if you are using a Full-Custom Suspension, replace it with a Sports or Semi-Racing. try this damper level setting (Front-3 Rear-5) or (Front-4 Rear-6)

you do not have engine balancing and sports brakes?? they are some of the most essential parts for drifting. i know it is quite expensive but trust me, you will not regret buying them

next, you should buy these upgrades:

Single plate clutch
Sports Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft

keep the Turbo and Intercooler at stage 1. install a sports or semi-racing muffler if you want to

finally, reduce the weight of your car to just Stage 1, don't go beyond. you will have weight-shifting problems if you buy the Stage 2 or 3.

got all of it?? to summarize it, just look at my thread, find the title YOU want DRIFT?? look no further

 

[Parnelli Bone]

first of all, you should not buy full-racing parts (Full-Custom Suspension, LSD) which
are not ideal for drifting. only the Full-Racing Transmission is good in all of the Full-Custom parts

you should not buy the Full-Custom LSD, it destroys the balance of your car. instead, buy the 1.5way LSD.

next, you should not use different tires (Front-Sports Rear-Normal) use Sports Tires on both

next, your damper level is too high. if you are using a Full-Custom Suspension, replace it with a Sports or Semi-Racing. try this damper level setting (Front-3 Rear-5) or (Front-4 Rear-6)

you do not have engine balancing and sports brakes?? they are some of the most essential parts for drifting. i know it is quite expensive but trust me, you will not regret buying them

next, you should buy these upgrades:

Single plate clutch
Sports Flywheel
Carbon Driveshaft

keep the Turbo and Intercooler at stage 1. install a sports or semi-racing muffler if you want to

finally, reduce the weight of your car to just Stage 1, don't go beyond. you will have weight-shifting problems if you buy the Stage 2 or 3.

got all of it?? to summarize it, just look at my thread, find the title YOU want DRIFT?? look no further

Actually, he was running all Normal tires.. I agree with you on the suspension settings, tho. I'm still not clear on whether or not Tulok "got it" or not so far as drifting is concerned.

 

[Skygrasper550]

I'm still confused. What's a one-via? What's a pop-up sedan?

you ask what a One-Via is?? ti is the opposite of the SilEighty.

the SilEighty is (Silvia front, 180 rear) while the One-Via is (180 front, Silvia rear)

get it??

 

[Parnelli Bone]

you ask what a One-Via is?? ti is the opposite of the SilEighty.

the SilEighty is (Silvia front, 180 rear) while the One-Via is (180 front, Silvia rear)

get it??

Yeah I know...that's so cheesy... "get it???"