Everyone keeps saying that using driver aids slows the car down. If this is true, why not allow people in your lobby to use them. That way they will be slower than your car if you don't use them. Wouldn't you be able to defeat your opponent much easier if they use aids and have a slower car? Take traction control for example. I don't use it. When I see people in my lobby that have it on, I laugh because I beat them without any trouble. When I try to tell them to take it off to become faster, they complain so I let them use it and keep being a slower opponent. If aids slow the car down, why not let the other people be slower and get the easy win?
Driver Aids
- Thread starter JEasy12
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- 1,916
- Letchworth
- mistersafeway
Not everybody wants an easy win, and a lot of (all, except ABS) the assists can cause erratic driving. For example, have you ever tried to overtake someone slavishly following the driving line? It's like racing AI that can swear. 
- 917
- United States
It's all in how the player views the game. Challenging, fun, or sim? A few sporty laps or a grueling endurance race? Some think there's some "honour" in not using aids, some do so whilst making exceptions they see as "worthy" and some could care less and see all options as merely tools to achieve some in-game goal. I get someone with three 50" plasmas and 7 speaker surround sound and a steel-cage rig with $400 wheel and another $200 in pedals and mods not wanting to get blown out by some noob with SRF. That's why the host hosts and joiners can look for the options they wish to race under: to seek the competition he/she wants. That freedom to set limits is one of the few good things left in this game.
- 3,070
- Norway
This.
There are many different levels of drivers when it comes to going quickly around a track.
The fastest lobbies tend to be restricted to ABS 1 or all assists off.
It can function as a filter for what many people regard as inexperienced drivers.
Of course, not all players that use assists are inexperienced and/or slow.
These players often "fall between two stools" and can, rightly so, feel unfairly discriminated against.
That's my experience anyway.
- 139
JEasy34,
I completely agree with you. Everybody believes that they are the best Competition Directors. I only disable Nitrous and Skid recovery in my lobbies. I believe that allowing the other aids, promotes cleaner racing. From my perspective, I provided them with enough tools to control their car.
- 700
- Okanagan, BC
- sailworksman
- sailworksman
If you are going to allow driving aids on, just keep SRF off. It's unrealistic but maybe good for someone just learning.
Personally, all off is what I enjoy when using Racing Cars on RH tires. ABS seems to be the norm that is on in most rooms at the very least. Its all a matter of preference. I suppose some of those driving aids can make you a bit faster.
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Personally, all off is what I enjoy when using Racing Cars on RH tires. ABS seems to be the norm that is on in most rooms at the very least. Its all a matter of preference. I suppose some of those driving aids can make you a bit faster.
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- 917
- United States
I'm not arguing with you at all on the subject of what to allow in your room online; aids allows for different reaction and input timings that can be a disaster in the making when everyone's headed into turn one. But "It's unrealistic but maybe good for someone just learning" is just plain condescending. I like SRF for a lot of cars on most tracks and I've played since GT2. I'm somewhere around 2,000th place right now in the Mazda TT on my own tuning style after maybe 30 laps despite who-knows-how-many steal-a-tuners flocking up there. That's still slow, but not that slow. And as for the "unrealistic" part? It's ALL unrealistic.
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- Letchworth
- mistersafeway
To me that post read as meaning that someone good shouldn't need it. If they do, they aren't all that good.
- 917
- United States
Good compared to what exactly? I suppose I could adopt the attitude that if you're not using SRF, you just may not be good enough to use it properly. I've been driving for 32 years and my "cars" feel just fine to me.
Stop thinking of a pat answer, and listen: some have taken on the mantle of declaring "our way is the 'real' way!". None of it is real, or even realistic! It's absolutely proper to disallow certain or all aids or tuning parts in a room one's hosting based on what kind of competition they want to race against. It's simple ignorance to get haughty and, while playing a videogame, point at something and declare "That's unnatural! Ban it!". Driving a quarter-million dollar Mercedes deep into German woods at over 200mph is unnatural, and PD can't replicate it, but we love trying it so we accept the limitations presented by this much cheaper method of doing so. However the player chooses to keep control of his small pile of ones and zeroes is up to the player and the tools PD gives them to do it. This fake snobbery over a busted video game is completely over the top. And before you say "I was just restating what they....." this is why you let the other poster restate their case if need be.
- 1,916
- Letchworth
- mistersafeway
You seriously need to calm down and read what I said. I was giving my interpretation, then telling you my opinion, of which the key word was 'need'. So if you just want an argument, look elsewhere. 
- 915
- Mesa, Arizona
- GTP_ConRollins
- I beg your pardon!
Aids can be good or bad depending on the drivers in the lobby and the experience level you’re seeking in the lobby. For example, the driving line helps the newer and less familiar at a given track. This can help the experienced as well. That new guy that doesn't know the track that well will know there is a braking zone ahead and just might stop in time to keep from punting you into the dirt. On the other hand, not having the driving line on may discourage new guys from joining in as they don't want to be left behind or endanger other drivers.
Traction Control is always a good thing to allow. Those that use it are most likely going to be slower and give those without it an advantage. The other aids (with the exception of SRF) are a mixed bag and normally do not make or break one’s ability to turn quick laps. I find that they slow me down (except ABS, where I prefer a setting of 1).
SRF is a good aid to have when you first start driving online. Once you become experienced and learn car control, SRF then becomes an edge. It makes sense if you want to race against more experienced driver to not allow it. This will ensure that the inexperienced will be left spinning of the track at the first sharp corner leaving the experienced drivers to compete with each other.
Of course some like the arcade experience and have all aids on, drafting at strong, boost all the way up. This creates a room where the inexperienced have a decent shot of keeping up with the experienced and can make for some fun pack racing.
So it depends on what kind of online experience you are looking for. Just fun...leave aids on. Serious racing...start turning them off.
I prefer lobbies where the top three (SRF, AS, and ASM) are prohibited, and the bottom three (DL, TC, and ABS) are available. This seems to attract a decent mix of skill levels and makes for a fun online experience.
Traction Control is always a good thing to allow. Those that use it are most likely going to be slower and give those without it an advantage. The other aids (with the exception of SRF) are a mixed bag and normally do not make or break one’s ability to turn quick laps. I find that they slow me down (except ABS, where I prefer a setting of 1).
SRF is a good aid to have when you first start driving online. Once you become experienced and learn car control, SRF then becomes an edge. It makes sense if you want to race against more experienced driver to not allow it. This will ensure that the inexperienced will be left spinning of the track at the first sharp corner leaving the experienced drivers to compete with each other.
Of course some like the arcade experience and have all aids on, drafting at strong, boost all the way up. This creates a room where the inexperienced have a decent shot of keeping up with the experienced and can make for some fun pack racing.
So it depends on what kind of online experience you are looking for. Just fun...leave aids on. Serious racing...start turning them off.
I prefer lobbies where the top three (SRF, AS, and ASM) are prohibited, and the bottom three (DL, TC, and ABS) are available. This seems to attract a decent mix of skill levels and makes for a fun online experience.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
When I set up a lobby, it's always street cars on CS to SH tires and sometimes SM for higher powered cars. I allow all aids except SRF and boost, to encourage as many people as possible to join in the racing and if they need the help of TC, ASM, Driving line etc. than that's cool with me. Anyone who spends any time online knows there is a severe lack of circuit racing on native tires and anything I can do to encourage participation without the arcade aid of SRF is fine by me.
- 142
- Scotland
- JimbobMarley65
Johnny I can't see why you would allow tcs etc on comfort tyre races doesn't that defeat the object of "keeping it real" ? .
- 1,804
- Pennsylvania
- dayofwar2009
- PSN#2 Roob_OG
No. He isn't using it. And like he said it's to attract more players to the room. Everyone and there mother is driving around on racing softs.
- 142
- Scotland
- JimbobMarley65
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
- 700
- Okanagan, BC
- sailworksman
- sailworksman
👍 Above.
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