Driver's Aids?

[MightyMan]

Hi guys,
sorry if posting a question that has been already answered, but I did an extensive search and I came up with nothing... :/

I recently got into GT4 and I want a real life simulation of racing, so I'm assuming it would be wise to turn the driver's aids off?

Now my question is, is turning all 3 aids to zero turning them off?
I've tried driving with them at zero and I can't really tell the difference (as I don't know how it would feel).

Thanks in advanced.

 

[Greycap]

Yes, 0/0/0 equals aids off.

The reason to why you get little difference is probably that you've not experienced enough yet to tell the differences in the handling, the experience will come with time. Eventually you'll get to the point in which the driving aids are holding you back (if you use them, that is) so you could as well begin without them. It'll be a benefit to you in the later stages. 👍

 

[PARAGON GT]

That would be correct. 0=off.

Drive with them off for a while, then turn them back on again, you will notice a world of diffrence in your cars handling. namely in the corners.

 

[mafia_boy]

Add 200hp to your car too and you'll notice the difference. And try it with an FF car, 300hp+ through the fronts is never good for S2/S3 tyres.

 

[MightyMan]

Alrighty,
thanks for the quick help guys.
Any "quick" tricks on how to get better?
I've finished getting my licenses (except for the last) and beat 2 beginner events, but I'm kinda lost on what to do (I've overwhelmed by the amount of things to do!)....

Thanks in advanced.

 

[SolidSnake15]

Try accelerating the Minolta without TCS. Then try with TCS. You'll notice a difference.

 

[Greycap]

If the guy wants a real life simulation of racing it doesn't matter a bit if the TCS makes the accelerating easier or not. The real 88C-V didn't have traction control so the virtual version shouldn't have it either.

About what to do next, whatever you feel like to. You'll have to drive all the races eventually anyway so just pick what sounds interesting.

 

[mafia_boy]

With what to do next....hmmm.

I feel a couple of trips around Costa Di Amalfi (in Special Conditions) on Easy will be the go for you, just to build your bankroll up. The prize car is the Toyota RSC Rally Raid car which you can sell for $250k+ and takes just over 10 minutes to complete in both directions.

Otherwise, go and test yourself on the Missions, or do the '70s/'80s/'90s Japanese car series. Easy cash there.

 

[Speed Drifter]

My trick to get better would be.. try learning to "feel" what the car is doing, how easily your tires start spinning when pressing gas, how many G's it's able to do in corners etc..
It's pretty difficult because you can only use your eyesight to determine what's happening, but certainly possible. The goal is to learn what's happening with the car when the screen tilts just 0.1 inches, or less

 

[Sniffs]

I personally run with the Stability controll nannies off, especially in front drivers (I've only ever owned 2 RL vehicles with even partial ABS). the stability controll is especially nasty on front drivers.

if you run into a front driver that stutters going around sharp turns (Such as the Fiat Coupe), that's supposed to be a substitute for "torque steer"

 

[MightyMan]

With what to do next....hmmm.

I feel a couple of trips around Costa Di Amalfi (in Special Conditions) on Easy will be the go for you, just to build your bankroll up. The prize car is the Toyota RSC Rally Raid car which you can sell for $250k+ and takes just over 10 minutes to complete in both directions.

Otherwise, go and test yourself on the Missions, or do the '70s/'80s/'90s Japanese car series. Easy cash there.

heeeheee, i've actually been racing the Costa Di Amalfi and buying cool cars

I have noticed without the TCS, when im accelerating with certain cars, if i throttle too hard, my tires will start spinning (at least thats what it sounds like), so im getting in the habit of not full throttling all the time..

Thanks for all the help

 

[wyldrice]

I have noticed without the TCS, when im accelerating with certain cars, if i throttle too hard, my tires will start spinning (at least thats what it sounds like), so im getting in the habit of not full throttling all the time..

This is the key to "perfecting" any actions you make in GT4!
Braking Especially! ...less is sometimes better! -dont LOCK THEM UP!
but also steering inputs... sometimes you have to "Flick your FR car's rear end out, then smooth it out slowly to keep traction...

you master this stuff, and you'll be able to go threw the game fairly fast!
Good Luck and God Bless all GT fans!

 

[Loon]

sometimes you have to "Flick your FR car's rear end out, then smooth it out slowly to keep traction...

Sounds a bit like an oxymoron to me.

 

[Skygrasper550]

I have noticed without the TCS, when im accelerating with certain cars, if i throttle too hard, my tires will start spinning (at least thats what it sounds like), so im getting in the habit of not full throttling all the time..

that is because too much power is surging on the drive wheels.., not to offend you, but it's common sense.., you need throttle control to overcome that unwanted wheelspin.., want to experience wheelspin so badly?? drive a Spoon Civic without driving aids..,

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

Hah hah, he insulted his own Spoon Civic.
There are a few good ways to learn throttle control IMO, one is getting golds in license tests, another is driving high powered cars and setting the best lap record you can.

 

[Skygrasper550]

Hah hah, he insulted his own Spoon Civic.

haha LOL why wouldn't i?? it's true, right??

 

[nd 4 holden spd]

I suppose, just like Holdens are too heavy. But I don't see that as Holden's fault mainly. It's the government's fault for high end heavy safety devices. But anyways, good luck getting practice MightyMan.

 

[Megasoft Office]

Just drive around on your own. Nobody here can give you a quick fix to driving skill. Just be receptive to the car and road and you'll develop your own technique.

 

[Slayn]

I just started too and I turned off driving aides as well and man is it hard. I mean you can smoke the tires from 0-100mph in a moderate powered RWD car without tcs. I like the handling better but the launching is insane, at least on the older cars.

 

[Skygrasper550]

you need to learn throttle control.., you won't "survive" in GT4 without that technique, especially when you tackle 30mph+ hairpins using an overpowered car, flooring the gas just won't do..,

 

[VTiRoj]

you need to learn throttle control.., you won't "survive" in GT4 without that technique, especially when you tackle 30mph+ hairpins using an overpowered car..,

Too true. I nearly lost to an Alfa Romeo (I forget which, might of been a 156?) once because I could barely control my Zonda on S tyres... because it has nearly 980bhp.

 

[wyldrice]

that is because too much power is surging on the drive wheels.., not to offend you, but it's common sense.., you need throttle control to overcome that unwanted wheelspin.., want to experience wheelspin so badly?? drive a Spoon Civic without driving aids..,

LOL, funny you say that!

I OWN Two Civics! '05 VP and a '02 Si! (Yo- K20!)

i know ALL ABOUT Wheelspin! Especially when shifting! "Chirp! Vrooom! Chirp! Vrooom!

but as far as throttle control-
i drive them like i'm using a DS2 controller "ALL ON!" or all off!
(except in the corners!)

 

[Picc84]

Yes, 0/0/0 equals aids off.

The reason to why you get little difference is probably that you've not experienced enough yet to tell the differences in the handling, the experience will come with time. Eventually you'll get to the point in which the driving aids are holding you back (if you use them, that is) so you could as well begin without them. It'll be a benefit to you in the later stages. 👍

Yep, eventually you'll come into a corner fast, and the aids will restrict your car from turning fast enough, and you'll be stuck in the grass...

 

[Skygrasper550]

that is IF you get in the grass.., AFAIK driving aids keep you on the road..,