Duelshock3 = A MASTER / Logitech 27 = Totally FAIL ! :(

[Kratos_Q8]

hi guys im real good in drifiting and rally racing with a controller but when it comes to the wheels g27 its like this is the first time i play a GT game in my life keep in mind im also new to the driving wheels just bough them lately when i drive with wheels the car superly oversteer in rally and difting what should i do? is the car steering settings for wheels should be difrent than the the sittings for using a controller ? please help , advice , tips anything to improve my drifting rallying with wheels

 

[nk4e]

Practice, don't just jump the gun on some things. Try learning how to grip before rally, then go off to drifting. Though the wheels are more sensitive towards movements than the DS3. So slowly get use to it.

 

[SFX_Adavicro]

Just be patient, eventually things will start to click and you'll see yourself getting better, try to watch real life drift videos of in-car footage and try to emulate what they do.

Its really something you have to feel out for yourself. Good luck!

 

[DSpec-xGuNz]

I couldn't agree with Adavicro more, patients is key, "Stay Cool!" put the hours in, and you'll get the hang of it. Look around the forum for tips to help you along the way, there's a lot of useful info about wheels, all you have to do is search Good luck!!

 

[Kratos_Q8]

thanks guys ill try keep practicing although racing in a wheel is x10000000 time better than a controller i feel sorry for my self for missing this experience from all the older GT games yeah this is my first driving wheel since i started playing video games

 

[HE1RO]

I have tried to do the wheel thing on GT5. Honestly in my opinion, the time i was investing to try and the learn how to use the wheel in the game seemed wasted. I just thought about what i could be doing outside in the real world, because i found out it does take some degree of dedication to learn the wheel in GT. It just made more sense to go out and get another job so i could afford to outfit my own car to get sideways and learn that way, plus i have friends who would practice with me too... thats another thing, psn being down really made training by myself with the wheel seem like punishment. I sold my wheel to buy an intake system, which was my first step

I wish you luck, and i hope you become very good at it. If any advice about the wheel that i can give, listen to those guys up top, they know what their talking about.

 

[//M Power]

I wouldn't advice anyone to do what he's doing because there's alot of stuff you can learn with the wheel that will help you in real life,it would be best to try and ace the wheel in the game instead of going out in real life and ****ing your car up.Even though the wheel doesn't compare to real life,there are things that will help you if you know how to drift in GT5.The best practice you can do is with the wheel before you go out with a real car.

 

[DaveM-sport]

It's very discouraging at first for a while when all you do is just spin out and get snap-back everywhere but with abit of practice, it suddenly clicks and you find yourself being able to link turns and its so much more rewarding then than with a controller.

As its so much fun then and so satisfying to be able to drift ok with the wheel, improving after that is alot easiers.

I'm just about able to link turns now and drift most corners but I'm far from perfect like some of the guys I drift with sometimes that also use wheels such as TwinturboCH, KingB, LRL driftaz, etc but I'm getting there bit by bit.

Also helps if you enter rooms with other people that are using wheels as most of the time, not everybody in the room are able to link a whole lap so you don't feel like a total idiot spinning out the whole time as others are making plenty of mistakes too.

I have tried to do the wheel thing on GT5. Honestly in my opinion, the time i was investing to try and the learn how to use the wheel in the game seemed wasted. I just thought about what i could be doing outside in the real world, because i found out it does take some degree of dedication to learn the wheel in GT. It just made more sense to go out and get another job so i could afford to outfit my own car to get sideways and learn that way, plus i have friends who would practice with me too... thats another thing, psn being down really made training by myself with the wheel seem like punishment. I sold my wheel to buy an intake system, which was my first step

I wish you luck, and i hope you become very good at it. If any advice about the wheel that i can give, listen to those guys up top, they know what their talking about.

I drift in real life too but to be honest, practicing on GT5 at night when I've nothing else to do is far cheaper than in real life

My real competition drift car will take more than just an intake system to finish it anyway so might as well practice on GT5 while I'm waiting to finish it and during the off season

 

[alvin23a]

Also not sure if it's been said but setup you did on a controller don't normally work on wheels.

 

[zedfonsie]

I'm currently going to move my ps3 and xbox systems off the 55inch hd tv in my living room.

I have 2 computer desk at a corner in my living room with the other desk I'm going to put my sisters old 24 inch flat screen tv and attach my g27 to cabinet tray that can be flattened to be a mounting point for my g27.

Right now though I am using a pimped out ds3 controller with speed freaks and adjusted triggers for maximum comfort and grip.

The g27 is hard to drift with the first day I got it back from repairs I was seriously yelling at the wheel but I made very small progress and in a couple weeks I hope I can drift with it in future times.
I need someone to help me with drifting my g27 it would be real nice If I can get a tutor

 

[CommodorePuddles]

Yeah don't sweat the wheel guys, it took me about a month to be able to hold a drift on the easiest of corners. But if your persistent all your hard work will pay off and you'll appreciate how much better the wheel is over the DS3 for drifting.

 

[mikekhel30]

I have tried to do the wheel thing on GT5. Honestly in my opinion, the time i was investing to try and the learn how to use the wheel in the game seemed wasted. I just thought about what i could be doing outside in the real world, because i found out it does take some degree of dedication to learn the wheel in GT. It just made more sense to go out and get another job so i could afford to outfit my own car to get sideways and learn that way, plus i have friends who would practice with me too... thats another thing, psn being down really made training by myself with the wheel seem like punishment. I sold my wheel to buy an intake system, which was my first step

I wish you luck, and i hope you become very good at it. If any advice about the wheel that i can give, listen to those guys up top, they know what their talking about.

I am glad more and more people are getting out there and staying away from the insode just to play. Not that im trolling or anything, but hearing/seeing people get to attached to their consoles makes me sad. It is formed of an addiction so that is not good. Im glad to hear that you have arrived again or for the first time that gaming consoles are free time, not life.

On to the subject, it is true that it is hard to drift with a wheel. I first drifted with a g27 aswell, never drifted even with a ds3. As soon as i learned how to drift with the wheel, I tried it with ds3 and I was so amazed how easy it is with ds3, i felt like a pro, abd i am still a beginner with a wheel.

 

[zedfonsie]

What you also should do is to make a handbrake for your g27.

I made a quite easy one with these steps

Materials

paper towel role (the long one)
Duct tape
ps3 controller
fps freeks

With the fps freek cut the paper towel role length wise and make it almost perfect size that fits snug around the fps freek.
When you find a nice fit duct tape it to keep it the same shape MAKE SURE IT IS not all the way on the bottom where the fps freek just on the top part.

Now Duct tape the entire paper towel role with one layer of duct tape.
Cut the duct tape in long skinny pieces with about 1in width. Make multiple pieces and leave them on the side.

take one piece at a time and wrap it around the end of the paper towel role that will be help support the fps freek from coming off. Make sure you take a pen and tuck it in each time to do this.

go on gt5 and make the analog stick a handbrake. Tape the ps3 controller down and now you have got a handbrake.

YOU have made a detachable handbrake that is useful for people who want a handbrake but still want to use the controller for other games.

 

[DaveM-sport]

What you also should do is to make a handbrake for your g27.

I made a quite easy one with these steps

Materials

paper towel role (the long one)
Duct tape
ps3 controller
fps freeks

With the fps freek cut the paper towel role length wise and make it almost perfect size that fits snug around the fps freek.
When you find a nice fit duct tape it to keep it the same shape MAKE SURE IT IS not all the way on the bottom where the fps freek just on the top part.

Now Duct tape the entire paper towel role with one layer of duct tape.
Cut the duct tape in long skinny pieces with about 1in width. Make multiple pieces and leave them on the side.

take one piece at a time and wrap it around the end of the paper towel role that will be help support the fps freek from coming off. Make sure you take a pen and tuck it in each time to do this.

go on gt5 and make the analog stick a handbrake. Tape the ps3 controller down and now you have got a handbrake.

YOU have made a detachable handbrake that is useful for people who want a handbrake but still want to use the controller for other games.

I just put a switch on an old broken hydraulic handbrake I had and mounted it to my frame

 

[GNDdriftspec]

you also have to remember you have been trained to let the gas go when you start to spin. You won't be drifting l33t like for awhile.

 

[Warren4649]

I found it hard as hell to drift with a controller, it is so inaccurate, but I've been using 900 degrees wheels since Enthusia and on various games. What I do when I buy a new car for drifting is putting all intake upgrades, ECU, exhaust parts and possibly weight reductions (if the car is heavy) to add some power and have a better response.
I then try it on high speed ring on the part afterthe second banking because the corner are long and simple (ideal to check the car's stability during a slide). I then make the possibly required adjustments to the setup and finalize the tuning to my liking.

 

[Frozzy]

Indeed, drifting from the DS3 to a 900 degree wheel is a totally different experience.
When I first got my G27, driving around the track was natural to me, but drifting is a whole another story.
Tracing the steering wheel when losing traction was very difficult and controlling the gas was crucial as well.

Like what everyone said, patience is key, it won't come to you off the bat. Don't worry too much about your driving line.
Just get a feel of the wheel and controlling it once you're sideways. Also, don't be afraid to touch the gas and brakes like I was. lol

I still have trouble with tandem though. I am one of those people who never touch the handbrake.

 

[clos2727]

be patient, very patient,

find a faily easy car to drive, not to much hp around upper 300

dont try to drift immediately, take the care out on sports medium, and try to whip the car, and try to not spin out.. once you get the hang of it gradually work your way to harder wheels.. all while tuning your car.

suspension is very important, but the magic happens in the drive train lsd.. read about what each category does. and apply to your car accordingly...

at first stick to one car don't bounce around with vehicles till you get the hang of drifting and tuning. each car handles differently.

best course to drift imo is Autumn ring, has great transitions, hairpins and long turns.. start drifting here and you can drift anywhere..

good luck

 

[JWalker841]

As many other people have mentioned, I can't express enough how patience is key. When I got my wheel, I honestly thought that there was no way I would ever be able to drift a corner. I suggest starting out in the most simple car you can attain with minimal upgrades. Start out on Autumn Ring Mini and try not to get frustrated. It took me about 2 weeks to be able to drift a single corner consistently and it took me about a month to be able to connect 3-4 corners. The feeling is truly amazing when you make your first clean section.

Good luck bud.

 

[Warren4649]

Even if I hate that track I think Tsukuba would be a slight better option, it has both slow turns and 1 "fast" corner and the 1st turn can learn to you how to slow down while being sideways.
Well Autumn ring is indeed good for transitions at slow speed.

 

[clos2727]

Even if I hate that track I think Tsukuba would be a slight better option, it has both slow turns and 1 "fast" corner and the 1st turn can learn to you how to slow down while being sideways.
Well Autumn ring is indeed good for transitions at slow speed.

the problem of tsukuba course its that it is not a beginner friendly course.. it is quite a challenging course.. there's no break in between turns. and you can lose yourself in trying to figure out what you did right or wrong.. dont get me wront its a great course to drift.. but drifters who drift here usually know how to drift already.. in a scale from 1 to 10 10 being the hardest. tsukuba course is a good 8 and higher if you have a high hp vehicle.

autumn ring on the other hand is great for beginners as well as advance drifters..

their is break between each section and if you learning you can tell immediately what you did wrong.. also good practice for advance drifters. where it teaches you how to link corners and maintain drift through all straights.... it also teaches beginners that speed isn't a factor in initiating a drift.

 

[Warren4649]

To me Tsukuba is more of a grade 5 track, not that hard for a beginner if you take the appropriate car and if you don't burn steps. And seeing how many public rooms run it and how many people left rooms when you switch to Grandvalley speedway (for exemple) which is not the hardest track in GT5, to me its just the ideal track for noobs (in both its pejorative and non-pejorative meaning).

 

[GTWelsh]

Nice post. I agree. It is the best pure drift track we have. And is a perfect learning ground. For wheel and DS3.

 

[TheBlueHusky]

Get an 4WD car, an Gallardo, take it a Tsukuba and no Asst. Drive the **** out of it and jump the gas, the rear will step out and the wheels will glow red, and keep the wheel where you want it to go!

 

[Warren4649]

Get an 4WD car, an Gallardo, take it a Tsukuba and no Asst. Drive the **** out of it and jump the gas, the rear will step out and the wheels will glow red, and keep the wheel where you want it to go!

Lmao.

 

[Gonales]

I just started on a DFGT. it's been just 2 days, but... im inpatient, and it didnt really feel right. Weird thing is, as i realised i needed more grip in the rear, and switched to the RGT, it went loads better. any opinions, about good or bad starting car? is it easy, to switch to FR after that, when i master the car, or am i to ditch it?

 

[Warren4649]

I thought you were a drift queen, I'm disappoint!

 

[zedfonsie]

I just started on a DFGT. it's been just 2 days, but... im inpatient, and it didnt really feel right. Weird thing is, as i realised i needed more grip in the rear, and switched to the RGT, it went loads better. any opinions, about good or bad starting car? is it easy, to switch to FR after that, when i master the car, or am i to ditch it?

I used to have a g27 (sold it) and what I learned from it is that you should try some really great learner cars. First things first, Find a really good tune on a mazda rx7 gt-x or an m3 (I highly recommended getting a wheel tune from someone else) I learned in this car for the entire 2 weeks I've been practicing and it's really easy to tell when the car is losing it's grip.


The RGT to me was a tricky little car. with all the weight in the back and the small engine on the wheels the amounts of grip are endless. I used a tip from someone here on gtp that worked quite good on me. He said to take a subaru impreza sti, rally tune it and then race it around chamonix (snow circuit for about an hour). It REALLY helps you learn car control. It teaches you when you should correct your car after a slide.

Oh yeah, Practice makes perfect.

 

[alvin23a]

I just started on a DFGT. it's been just 2 days, but... im inpatient, and it didnt really feel right. Weird thing is, as i realised i needed more grip in the rear, and switched to the RGT, it went loads better. any opinions, about good or bad starting car? is it easy, to switch to FR after that, when i master the car, or am i to ditch it?

When you switch to a FR are you going to be able to cope with have less weight at the back and more at the front. IMO when your learning a little ballast might help. Also I've been on a wheel since I got my PS2 with GT3 (never had a PS1. I'm only 14.) so it kind of came naturally the fact that I loved the rallying did help as well though.

 

[DC9990]

Drifting with a DS3 can be so easy (with the right car) I got bored one night after b-spec'ing & saw a 240SX in UCD so I thought I'd take it for a spin round Tsukuba (Stock on CH).
I thought I'd give drifting a go but couldn't be bothered to plug in my T500 (as I fail normally).
I was drifting nicely from the first corner.
I thought I'd magically found the perfect car so I quickly plugged in my T500 & I was back to failing miserably.
I've never tried drifting with a DS3 only wheel so that shows how easy it is.

Is it easier on a wheel with the feedback lower?
I have mine at 10, was thinking weaker feedback would make it easier to counter steer maybe.