E-Brake and RS-6

[Machate-man]

I noticed this:


When going 250 km/h+, you can pull the handbrake and it will act like the regular brakes. The only thing different is that the gear disengages, and the revs drop. The front wheels lock if you turn them, as well.

Why?

 

[Midnight Snacks]

...because?

 

[theotherspongey]

...because?

Post of the day.

 

[Machate-man]

...because?

Post of the day.

oh, very funny

I just want to know why this happens.

Should I just move this to the tuning forum?

 

[Rossticles]

Ok?

 

[hypnotron]

cause it's the emergency brake.......and in case of emergency it stops everything......??

 

[Machate-man]

cause it's the emergency brake.......and in case of emergency it stops everything......??

The rear brakes dont lock, but the front ones do

 

[dirtbiker535]

Are you sure they lock up not just getting hot because its sideways

 

[CSLACR]

The rear brakes dont lock, but the front ones do

Either the e-brake locks the front wheels on that car irl, or it's a glitch.

Try to ignore the idiotic responses only the "GT5" forum can give.

 

[Onboy123]

Either the e-brake locks the front wheels on that car irl, or it's a glitch.

Try to ignore the idiotic responses only the "GT5" forum can give.

Yay! We can all agree on something for once! GT5 in general forum are filled with trolls and arses. The sub-forums filters them out.

 

[Machate-man]

Either the e-brake locks the front wheels on that car irl, or it's a glitch.

I guess I can conclude the glitch option; it hasn't been dealt with since v1.00

Try to ignore the idiotic responses only the "GT5" forum can give.

👍

 

[CSLACR]

The front discs are clamped by gloss black six-piston fixed Brembo monoblock alloy calipers incorporating the "RS" logo, and black single-piston floating calipers, with integrated electro-mechanical parking brake linkage actuating on the rear discs. This electro-mechanical parking brake serves another purpose, it doubles as a full emergency brake whilst the car is in motion, by applying maximum braking effort to all four wheels, resulting in activating the Anti-lock Braking System (ABS).

Neat feature. 👍
New for the C6 RS6 from what I read.

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

Quite interesting! Surely it must be necessary to stop such a Warship from skidding straight unto a wall.

 

[dr_slump]

Isn't it the same with the Bugatti Veyron? It also locks the front tires instead of the rear tires.

 

[CSLACR]

Isn't it the same with the Bugatti Veyron? It also locks the front tires instead of the rear tires.

IDK, but the RS6 activates all-four, I can only assume only the front turn red because they have more power sent under full braking?

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

IDK, but the RS6 activates all-four, I can only assume only the front turn red because they have more power sent under full braking?

All the weight shifts towards the front, so I would guess it would be a case of front tire grip-overload!

 

[CSLACR]

All the weight shifts towards the front, so I would guess it would be a case of front tire grip-overload!

applying maximum braking effort to all four wheels

I would assume as with most cars the front wheels go first, for obvious safety reasons, though GT doesn't simulate the ability to spin out while fully on the brakes with ABS properly.

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

I would assume as with most cars the front wheels go first, for obvious safety reasons, though GT doesn't simulate the ability to spin out while fully on the brakes with ABS properly.

Maximum braking effort means full braking force, which doesn't equal 4 wheel grip distribution under braking.

 

[CSLACR]

Maximum braking effort means full braking force, which doesn't equal 4 wheel grip distribution under braking.

It can.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I've noticed with some of my AWD cars (those with 50/50 or close to it torque distribution) that the E-brake does exactly this.

Why? Because the drivetrain refuses to spin at differing speeds.

 

[CSLACR]

Now that is odd.
Here I'd though PD did good in an area. Though I actually don't know how any 4wd reacts to e-brake while driving, I find it hard to believe the transmission can overpower the brakes, especially since most engines can't.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Now that is odd.
Here I'd though PD did good in an area. Though I actually don't know how any 4wd reacts to e-brake while driving, I find it hard to believe the transmission can overpower the brakes, especially since most engines can't.

It's not overpowering the brakes. It's distributing the braking force.

For it to not do that, it would have to break.

 

[CSLACR]

It's not overpowering the brakes. It's distributing the braking force.

For it to not do that, it would have to break.

If that were the case, 4wd could never have worked before the invention of ABS.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

If that were the case, 4wd could never have worked before the invention of ABS.

What?


I... I don't even.

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

What?


I... I don't even.

I am baffled by CSLACR's statement.

 

[CSLACR]

I've noticed with some of my AWD cars (those with 50/50 or close to it torque distribution) that the E-brake does exactly this.

Why? Because the drivetrain refuses to spin at differing speeds.

It's not overpowering the brakes. It's distributing the braking force.

For it to not do that, it would have to break.

How would that be possible without ABS?

 

[Machate-man]

How would that be possible without ABS?

Now I get it;
without ABS, the braking force (out of 100%) would be 50/50, or 5/5 in GT5. Distributing the brake force to the front without manually using something to adjust it would be impossible without ABS

 

[Mr. CoolFiat]

How would that be possible without ABS?

More power being applied to the one with the most braking force.... as if this happened:
1 and 1 (front and rear brakes/normal pressure)
Then it's 1+3 and 1+2 when brakes are fully applied (4 and 3 now)
4 and 3, but now tranny comes into action, forcing equal rotation of both front and rear axles! So it's 4-1 and 3
3 and 3.

Catch my drift?

 

[Rotary Junkie]

How would that be possible without ABS?

Again, what?

Locked center diff = no speed difference between the inputs of both front and rear differentials = any force exerted on a given axle is transferred equally to the opposite axle.

Why would you need modulation of the caliper force for that to have any effect? What the bloody hell are you talking about?

 

[CSLACR]

Now I get it;
without ABS, the braking force (out of 100%) would be 50/50, or 5/5 in GT5. Distributing the brake force to the front without manually using something to adjust it would be impossible without ABS

Well specifically I mean without ABS, brake distribution is never "distributed" to wheels that aren't locked, etc. It just is what it is, if the front lock and rear still spin, so be it, nothing the car can do would stop it, because the technology isn't there without ABS.

More power being applied to the one with the most braking force.... as if this happened:
1 and 1 (front and rear brakes/normal pressure)
Then it's 1+3 and 1+2 when brakes are fully applied (4 and 3 now)
4 and 3, but now tranny comes into action, forcing equal rotation of both front and rear axles! So it's 4-1 and 3
3 and 3.

Catch my drift?

And now you're saying the transmission (power via decelerating engine) would overpower the brakes.
It also sounds like you're saying a car without ABS can somehow sense lock and distribute brake force.

Again, what?

Locked center diff = no speed difference between the inputs of both front and rear differentials = any force exerted on a given axle is transferred equally to the opposite axle.

Why would you need modulation of the caliper force for that to have any effect? What the bloody hell are you talking about?

A parking brake typically locks one set of wheels. You said

I've noticed with some of my AWD cars (those with 50/50 or close to it torque distribution) that the E-brake does exactly this.

Why? Because the drivetrain refuses to spin at differing speeds.

But the drivetrain cannot distribute braking force, so if the parking brake is locking the wheel, the transmission/drivetrain has no real say, because it's no match for the braking power.