Engine Swaps, Twin Turbo/Twincharger option and Changing Layouts

[General Gravy]

I think engine swaps would be a good idea, because you could have a sleeper (especially good if you play online) and you could start with a crappy car and stick with for the rest of the game, providing it qualifies all of the race specifications. Also, if you had a 1.8T engine from your Audi/Volkswagen, you could swap it for a 2.0T! It would also be good because then that would cut down on cars, eg you have a stock Mitsubishi Lancer, and you could swap it for the 2.0L Turbo engine from the Evo.The only problem is, finding out which engine will fit in each car.

Also, if you had a Twincharger option, which would be availible to some cars only, like the Displacement UP option.

Also, a Twin Turbo option would be good, so if you had a W12 Phaeton, just buy the twin turbo option and you have the power of a Flying Spur/Continental GT! (Hopefully.)

Changing the Drivetrain would be nice as well, because a FF car usually can't accept more than 200bhp without torque steer, you could make it 4WD / AWD, FR, or MR (Or RR, even in some rare cases) where if you had space in the back or in the chassis, you could fit a longer driveshaft to make it FR, or you could put the engine behind the back seats to make it MR. (This would cause you to change the body somewhat, eg scoops, maybe a hole in the back window if Kaz decides to do body modding.)

PS. How do they find out how big a car's engine is?

 

[AngelCreator]

Like the engine swaps in Forza?

 

[General Gravy]

But if you copied Forza, it wouldn't be GT, now, would it?

 

[Emohawk]

Engine swaps don't make it not GT.

How would you decide what can be twincharged?

 

[General Gravy]

I dunno, I guess you could make like what ever car can apply a turbo and a supercharger (a MX-5, for example) should be able to apply a twincharger.


And besides, I was talking about copying Forza, not adding something that was in Forza. There is a fine line there, my friend...

 

[Patrik]

I dunno, I guess you could make like what ever car can apply a turbo and a supercharger (a MX-5, for example) should be able to apply a twincharger.


And besides, I was talking about copying Forza, not adding something that was in Forza. There is a fine line there, my friend...

if they add engine swaps and twin turbos and stuff they better add engine and car brakedowns. so lets say you but a chevy 454 V8 in a 85 Jetta without upgrading the chassi the car/chassis would brake down and it comes up a letter: ''Your car were to weak and couldn't take the power'' and they have to make us be able to change the drivetrain to rearwheel drive/4 wheel drive as well... seems a little too much to me..

 

[Jay]

I dunno, I guess you could make like what ever car can apply a turbo and a supercharger (a MX-5, for example) should be able to apply a twincharger.

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If you were to Turbocharge a Miata, what would be the point to changing that to twin turbocharged? I understand on large power increase applications you would/could invest in a 'twin charger' system to try and combat lag while still retaining the high output.

 

[AngelCreator]

Like taking a ford GT engin and put it in a Ford Mustang SVT Cobra R?

 

[bucket of water]

the engine swapping would have to be like forza because we would get people droping V10 etc into Minis which wouldn't be fun.

the Delta S4 is ment to be twincharged but it clearly isnt in the game

you'll find that cars are already twin turbo in the game its just that we arn't told.

 

[Emohawk]

There seems to be some confusion here. Twincharging is not two turbochargers, it's a turbocharger and a supercharger.

 

[Disturbed07]

I dunno, I guess you could make like what ever car can apply a turbo and a supercharger (a MX-5, for example) should be able to apply a twincharger.

A. While you can technically twin-charge a 4-cyl ( wether you're meaning supercharge and turbo, or 2 of either) it's extremely uncommon. Though theoretically it's genious to put 2 or 4 small turbo's on a 4cyl, as they can all be tiny, spooling quicker, and still getting massive boost.B. Engine swaps are technically only limited to wether the engine will fit.Example: A 91 NSX can house an 01 Z06 engine, given that it can hold it in the engine compartment, however GT would then need exact weight displacements for all engine's they include. This will be extremely costly, if there are as many cars as people would like there to be, and then 3 times that many engines (ok, maybe only 2 times the engine's)C. Twin-Turbo's may already be included, we wouldnt know, as they simply call a Supra, "Turbo". This would explain the "Original" turbo kits in the tuning shops, with their far superior powerband.D. What is the point of a sleeper in GT5? even online. So, you fooled that guy thinkin you had a slow car, and beat him by half a lap. now what? Unless they include gambling, or betting, but then, they'd have to include a way to look under a hood, or see what it has.... you see where this goes? all it can do is make you dominate an unfair race. But if that's what you want, simply race the AI, no? or pick an unfair race against the AI, if they improve it.Springer's Final Thought: Maybe we should be more concerned with being able to turbo/supercharge ALL cars? there's no reason you can't turbo a GTO. and how about different levels of boost from a Supercharger? with swappable pulleys, rather than 20grand to buy another, though, of course, different size superchargers....P.S. If turbo-lag effects your racing rpm's, the turbo's just to big. or un-tuned

 

[YSSMAN]

Engine swaps have been in several other games as well, and to me its amazing that the feature hasnt showed up in Gran Turismo yet...

Swapping bits and pieces out of Hondas, Volkswagens, Chevrolets, Fords, etc... seems logical as it has become so popular to do it these days... Being that the 2005 GT Award Winner was a 2005 Jetta 2.5S with swapped engine/trans combo from an R32 modified to 550HP....Hmmm?

 

[Raghavan]

I like the idea, but no one really cares about twin charging, even if it does solve turbo lag and the supercharger's weak top end.

 

[YSSMAN]

...Too bad the US probably wont get the Twincharged VW Golf GT...

 

[DeRFmAN]

yeah that would be awesome, I'd love to have A 1st gen RX-7 and drop in a TII motor, that would own. I actually plan on doing that swap into my other FB one day.

 

[joseph dobson]

i think being able to twincharge a car would be really cool, also you should be able to puch the engine to its limits like in real life, i watched a vid of a skyline with 1000bhp at the wheels but you can't do that in GT4, that really annoys me!!

 

[Onikaze]

What about putting two engines into a car, like that one Audi TT with the dual 1.8T engines?

I mean, why not, right?

 

[Emohawk]

While making engine swaps plausable would require them to figure out the volumetric capacity of all the car's engine bays, twin engines would also require them to find the dimentions of the trunk.
Maybe only allow twin engines in hatchbacks? I know somebody's put a Cadillac 500cid engine in the back of a Yugo, so there's probably not a whole lot your average hatch can't hold.