Euthanasia, what's your opinion?

[Joel]

In Canada, Euthanasia has been a hot topic lately. A bill was introduced in the House of Commons, which seeks to legalize Euthanasia, as well as assisted suicide. I go to a Catholic High School, and they have been showing videos and speeches supporting the "vote against" argument, to agree with the Catechism. My personal opinion is that since Suicide is not a crime in Canada, Euthanasia, or Assisted Suicide shouldn't be either. I don't believe in Religion interfering with the state, and I really don't like how we are being swayed to be a body of power for the Catholic Church. However, I do see their side of the argument, and it is valid, providing you believe in God, which I don't.


Now, of course, this bill will be shot down in the House of Commons, let alone the Senate. But I would still like to know your opinions.

 

[buickgnx88]

 

[Joel]

was that a joke or your honest opinion? because it's valid as both.

 

[buickgnx88]

It was more of a joke since I love Robot Chicken.

In my opinion, I see nothing wrong with Euthanasia as long as the person isn't coerced into it by anyone (which of course can't always be helped).

 

[Northstar]

Suicide isn't a crime anywhere for obvious reasons, so I don't feel that is a valid argument.

As for Euthanasia, I am against it for the same reason I am against the death penalty. I just don't see how any competent person could essentially kill someone and not have any psychological side affects.

Edit: A little OT, but how exactly does an atheist survive in a Catholic school?

 

[Exorcet]

It's a person's life, let them choose. However, make sure they know what they are choosing.

 

[niky]

By pretending to say grace along with everyone else.

I sincerely believe the youth in asia should have our full support. They are, after all, the future rulers of the planet.

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A person has the right to decide whether they want to live or die. And no government can deny them that right, whether it be by their own hand or someone else's. I don't see what the argument is.

 

[FenderGuitars08]

It's a person's life, let them choose. However, make sure they know what they are choosing.

I totally agree with this. The taking of your own life should be your own decision. Plus, being euthanized should be (i hope) a lot quicker and less painful than, say, slitting your wrists.

Now i do think that to be eligible for being euthanized, someone must have a terminal disease, or be in irreversible, excrutiating pain, along with an ok from a doctor. I mean, I don't want someone with depression just going and getting euthanized for the heck of it.

 

[Public'sTwin]

Suicide isn't a crime anywhere for obvious reasons

Actually, it is.

As for Euthanasia, I am against it for the same reason I am against the death penalty. I just don't see how any competent person could essentially kill someone and not have any psychological side affects

First of all, euthanasia by definition is a form of relief; vets do it all the time in the absence of more pragmatic care. Similarly, as we will go to very great lengths to secure life for each other, we must also consider the implications of living without the luxury of a pain-free, meaningful life. Ask just about any nurse or medical professional who have first-hand experience with the mortality of man, and you will see that despite their adherence to the Hypocratic Oath, the release from the agony of life to that of death is very often on their mind. It's for that reason that many feel guilty for letting them live—knowing that the patient wants nothing more than to expediate the process already unfolding before them, sometimes taking months or years to come to an inevitable end.

 

[Joel]

Suicide isn't a crime anywhere for obvious reasons, so I don't feel that is a valid argument.

As for Euthanasia, I am against it for the same reason I am against the death penalty. I just don't see how any competent person could essentially kill someone and not have any psychological side affects.

Edit: A little OT, but how exactly does an atheist survive in a Catholic school?

By using it as a forum to enhance my debating skills. I only have religion for 1 semester, and it's not thaaat bad. Also, the school is awesome, state of the art so i love it.

 

[Joel]

Actually, it is.

Edit: This thread is going downhill, fast. One sec.

sorry for double post. Suicide is a crime in some US states, but not Canada.

 

[Public'sTwin]

Legality of Suicide

Counselling or aiding suicide
241. Every one who
(a) counsels a person to commit suicide, or
(b) aids or abets a person to commit suicide,
whether suicide ensues or not, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding fourteen years.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 241; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 7.

India
In India, attempted suicide is a punishable crime by up to one year in prison and/or fine. A recent decision has upheld the constitutional validity of prohibiting suicide.

Ireland
Attempted suicide is not a criminal offence in Ireland. Assisted suicide and euthanasia are illegal however. (The hunger strike revolts are a motivating factor in this law.)

Singapore
In Singapore, a person attempting to commit suicide can be imprisoned by up to one year.

 

[Northstar]

sorry for double post. Suicide is a crime in some US states, but not Canada.

No its not, Attempted suicide is. Suicide implies that you were successful therefor are dead, they normally don't charge dead people with crimes.

Plus, even if it's attempted the person is normally not mentally stable and therefor will just be placed in a psychiatric care center.

 

[Joel]

No its not, Attempted suicide is. Suicide implies that you were successful therefor are dead, they normally don't charge dead people with crimes.

Plus, even if it's attempted the person is normally not mentally stable and therefor will just be placed in a psychiatric care center.

I'm sorry, I should have clarified. By Suicide i meant an attempt on taking your life, whether you're sucessful or not. I probably should have said attempted suicide. Also, that quote from the Criminal Code of Canada, means that assisting suicide is illegal.

 

[Lain]

I support euthanasia. If a person is suffering and wants to die, why shouldn't they be granted it?

 

[Speedy Samurai]

In Japan if you jump in front of a train to end your life your family is responsible for the costs incurred by the rail company by your doing so. It is very, very expensive.

But that doesn't stop people from jumping everyday. I guess if you are willing to put your family through the grief of your unexpected death what's a few million yen?

 

[Public'sTwin]

Also, that quote from the Criminal Code of Canada, means that assisting suicide is illegal.

I'm not here to argue with what is and isn't illegal; the fact of the matter is, it's a legal deterrent to suicide.

That said, I do support clinically assisted euthanasia and the judgment provided by the professionals who have to consider it every day.

Regarding suicide outside of a dire, clinical context however, I also maintain is a right of the individual. (And for all the repercussions to the family, it's no more selfish to take your own life than it is to guilt trip those who do.)

 

[Famine]

Right to self = right to do anything you want to yourself.

 

[niky]

In other words... the Japanese law is thoroughly ethical... because abusing the public train system to commit suicide is just so selfish. Do it at home like normal people do, and stop wasting government money...

 

[DK]

It's nice that you support the separation of Church and State, noob616. Shame about the fact you can't charge dead people for crime, it's a shame you can't get to see the remains of Hitler on trial for over 11 million counts of murder.

 

[TheCracker]

I love it.

It's perhaps not quite as in-depth or polished as say GT4, but the handling model is second to none 👍

 

[Northstar]

I love it.

It's perhaps not quite as in-depth or polished as say GT4, but the handling model is second to none 👍

What?

 

[ROAD_DOGG33J]

i love it.

It's perhaps not quite as in-depth or polished as say gt4, but the handling model is second to none 👍

qft

 

[Blitz187]

Living in a country where Euthanasia is legal, I see no problem in it being legal. I think people should have the right to decide themselves what they do with their life. I do support making it a possibility ONLY under certain severe cirumstances. For example, if someone is terminally ill and suffering from a lot of pain, they should DEFINITELY get this laid out as an option for them by the medical staff... If someone is in debt for example and will never get out of it, then tries assisted suicide or Euathanasia as a way out... thats something I dont support... so I guess I am a supporter under certain criteria...

I love it.

It's perhaps not quite as in-depth or polished as say GT4, but the handling model is second to none 👍

I think he thought it said Enthusia Racing from PS2... LOL or its just a joke....

 

[Lain]

I think he thought it said Enthusia Racing from PS2... LOL or its just a joke....

Yeah it's definitely a joke. Enthusia popped into my mind too when I first saw the thread title.

In Japan if you jump in front of a train to end your life your family is responsible for the costs incurred by the rail company by your doing so. It is very, very expensive.

But that doesn't stop people from jumping everyday. I guess if you are willing to put your family through the grief of your unexpected death what's a few million yen?

Haha, that's terrible. What happens if you're a tourist?

 

[Touring Mars]

I voted for the middle option, only because I think it is the only way that euthanasia is likely to be accepted in our country. Otherwise, I'm strongly in favour of it, and firmly believe that a person has the right to choose when to end their life, but perhaps more importantly, to have the option to die with dignity and in a manner of their own choosing...

I sincerely believe the youth in asia should have our full support

I love it.

It's perhaps not quite as in-depth or polished as say GT4, but the handling model is second to none 👍

Don't make me come down there!​

(Otherwise )

 

[Omnis]

I am 100% against euthanasia. Do I think governments should ban it? No.

 

[lpb-nissan-gt-r]

Edit: A little OT, but how exactly does an atheist survive in a Catholic school?

With great fun the bible has so many holes in it, it could be a colinder(SP) the amount of times you can get away with blasphemic(SP) comments is unreal.


But on topic we are about to learn this in RE i think it is only ok if it is a mercy killing e.g. there person is living in terrible pain.

 

[Joel]

We need more people like you guys in this country. The problem for me is that the
Catholics are trying to stop it, and i take offense to that, especially in a country like Canada. We have so many religions and cultures here, and that's why i want the church separated from the state. In other words, i'm a disestablismentarianist.

 

[Loon]

Shame about the fact you can't charge dead people for crime, it's a shame you can't get to see the remains of Hitler on trial for over 11 million counts of murder.

Would it do any good?

I think euthanasia should be legal. As many before me have said it should be up to each individual person on whether or not they want to live.