Evo VII GT-A ???

[Elj]

Does someone have any idea what this car is ? You can buy it in the second used car lot, it's a 2002 model. I would like to have more inofs about this car, because there is something strange with the turbo. Thank you !

 

[Tornado]

It's basically an Evolution 7 with a slushbox (not sure about if it is paddle shifted or anything). I prefer it to the 7 & 8 due to it's quickness in shifting, nice color combos and it's looks (the clear lights from the 8 with the nice front end of the 7? Brilliant!).

 

[viperpilot]

so the only difference is in the gearbox??

what do you mean with "there is something strange with the turbo" Elj??

viper

EDIT: this car has the INVECS II five speed automatic (semi-automatic) with Formula 1 style gear change buttons on the steering wheel and there are only 2000units produced. it has also a tinier turbo than the normal EVO VII GSR but it would be nice if you can explain why you think the turbo is strange Elj.
and the GT-A stands for Grand Touring Automatic.

 

[Elj]

Here's the thing, I'm sorry I didn't explained the first time. It seems to me that the turbo crank a notch higher each time you shift up. Is there some sort of I dunno second turbine that help the turbo to keep it's pressure ?

Thank you !

PS Thank you for the quick answers guys, it was really helpful !
elj

 

[viperpilot]

i bought the car yesterday, and first i have to say that i love this car!!
so, to the turbo, i noticed the same, and i think that this is caused by the transmission. the gear-changes are so fast that you don't lose boost-pressure. it's the same as in the Nissan GT-R LM-Edition '02.

no problem for the help, don't hesitate to ask!

viper

 

[Speed Drifter]

To me it looks like the transmission of that Evo works like a real torque converter in an automatic tranny.
I just don't get it why they didn't put these trannys to all those cars which in real life are available only with a/t
Jay Leno's tank car for example has got a six speed allison auto tranny in real life, if they also had modelled that tranny into the game it would have definitely made this beast easier to drive

 

[Pebb]

It's basically an Evolution 7 with a slushbox (not sure about if it is paddle shifted or anything). I prefer it to the 7 & 8 due to it's quickness in shifting, nice color combos and it's looks (the clear lights from the 8 with the nice front end of the 7? Brilliant!).

But it is a good used car I must say.

 

[darkblu]

good indeed. let's hope PD fix the slight visual glitch in the mesh of the model (IIRC, all VIIs have it) for GT5

 

[viperpilot]

but don't fit the FC-gearbox, then it shifts slower.........i've tried that yesterday. and it really destroyed the effect of the original-gearbox.

viper

 

[SUROKIA]

what glitch

 

[darkblu]

what glitch

(i assume you're referring to what i said)

it's a purely visual glitch. the polygonal meshes of all the evos VII have a flow - a disjoin spot in the back of the car. if you look at the trunk of the model from atop, more precisely from an elevated point-of-view in front and/or on the side of the car, you'll see that somewhere around where a rear windsheald wiper would sit, there's a 'crack' - a seam between the rear windshield and the trunk, so you can see whatever is below the car. this is particularly noticable when there is high contrast between car coloring and floor/background colors. like when a dark-colored evo vii gets its oil changed in the gt auto oil change screen.

 

[Sprite]

Seeing as this is the tuning section, has anyone had a go at tuning this and got it to a state of drivability, I hate all the evos in GT4, due to the handling. Is this the same (havent bought it yet) or different? If only the gearbox and shifter is different, then the suspension will be the same as the MR and handle like crap.

And what happens if you change the GB or TBO dose this strange effect dissapear? or is it posible to keep it when upgrading these parts? Will give it a go myself, but not able to play at the moment.

 

[viperpilot]

what do you mean with TBO? i installed the FC-gearbox and the effect was gone, so i think there is no chance to modify the car and keep the effect at the same time.

viper

 

[Sprite]

what do you mean with TBO? i installed the FC-gearbox and the effect was gone, so i think there is no chance to modify the car and keep the effect at the same time.

viper

What I ment was Turbo, sorry for the confusion, So if you can tune it up in regards to the gearing then what happens with other parts from the drivetrain section? IE: Flywheel,Propshaft & clutch ect. Im going to try as soon as I can.

 

[zefff]

I have one and it is a great ride although it is the heaviest variant. I spent a fair bit of time on it and by using the AYC controller it handles really well and is loads of fun but sadly when you remove the INVECS II gearbox the weight remains.

TBH the FTO and Galant share the same tiptronic gearbox in real life so should have the same seamless shift. I have an FTO in real life and had it converted from INVECS to manual. The INVECS had different gearing, at 7.5k rpm would be topping 80mph in 2nd gear with gear changes lasting about .3 of a second. Manual is about .5 to 1 second faster to 60mph (67mph in second @ 7.5k rpm) and the car is lighter without the bulky, complex INVECS innards and huge ECU that controls it all...and its the same for the Evolution GTA vs manual GSR.

I will post my GTA settings in my settings thread later this week.

 

[viperpilot]

interesting stuff zefff, looking forward to see your setup! 👍

viper

 

[Sprite]

Ok I purchased this last night and had a quick go without any mods, and Iam pleasently suprised by the handeling and that pretty cool gear change, I will have a go at tuning it and see whati can come up with (including the Gearbox to save the rapid changes).

 

[viperpilot]

keep us posted sprite!

viper

 

[Sprite]

Well had a go at tuning this car today and Ive got it pretty nailed (well for my driving style at least). have a ganders and tell me what you guys think, if any of the guide editors feel they are good enough to be put into the wiki, please do so.

Car: Mitsubishi EVO VII GT-A

Part List:

Oil
Wing
Racing Exhaust
Racing ECU
Original Turbo (bought from Mines tuner garage)
Racing Intercooler
Racing Brakes & Controller
Original Suspension (bought from Mines tuner garage)
Triple Clutch
Racing Flywheel
Propshaft
LSD 1.5
AYC
VCD
Racing Super Hard Tires
Weight Reduction 1, 2 & 3
Rollcage
body refresh

[b]Settings[/b]

Suspension
-Spring Rate: 12.4 / 11.2
-Ride Height: 86 / 90
-Damper 9 / 9
-Bound: -- / --
-Rebound: -- / --
-Camber: 1.5 / 3.0
-Toe: -1 / 0
-Stabilizers: 3 / 3
 
LSD
Leave as is standard

AYC - 115
VCD - 30

Downforce
Amount: 25 / 30
 
Driving Aids
-ASM Oversteer: 0
-ASM Understeer: 0
-TCS: 0
 
Brake Controller
-Brakes: 5 / 6
 
Transmission
Gear Ratios
1st: --
2nd: --
3rd: --
4th: --
5th: --
6th: --
7th --
Final Gear: --

Autoset --

Ballast
-Weight: 0
-Location:0

Here are some times and top speed:

0'11.577 - Quater Mile
0'55.182 - Tsukuba
1'12.541 - Midfield
192.31 - Top Speed

 

[viperpilot]

looks nice, i think i'll try to get my own settings, and then in the next days let you know!

viper

 

[zefff]

Sweet pics! Those settings are as far removed from mine as you can get. Looks quite stiff and that is a right load of AYC! Will try em out and hopefully post mine tommorrow.

 

[Sonzilla]

Do you guys think pd incorporated the INVECS II Adaptive Shift Control software. "learning your driving style" In Automatic mode?

This Idea would be really awesome for GT5. Imagine, it would deff upbring the Auto mode and make it fun to see how it adapts to your liking.

 

[SUROKIA]

no, ... but enthusia does.

 

[viperpilot]

jip, enthusia does, but i don't think that PD wanted to do that, maybe in GT5..... we'll see!

viper