Fanatec acquired by Corsair

[Morilec]

Honestly for sim racing hydraulic pedals do not affect the braking performance in the sim as the applied pressures still have to be turned into an electronic signal for the game to be able to process it.

In my opinion I cannot see where a hydraulic system has any advantage over a properly set up pedal using rubber and elastomers that is set up to operate at the racers preferred amount of pressure and free play in the pedal sensor.

I'm looking for something that gives a more realistic feeling, which is what hydraulic ones do, so I didn't talk about performance.

If we talk about performance, the hydraulic one should still be better, because it offers continuity in its performance, unlike elastomers, which with the passage of time and use, lose their initial properties, becoming softer.

 

[timekiller001]

No matter what, changes coming from the take over will take time.
Given the reports that Chinese suppliers went on strike and only sent out goods if they were paid in full beforehand, the first priority will most likely be to get the regular supplies working again.
Unless they already started to manufacture new products, my guess would be that new products will take some time to appear on the market.
Not to mention that Corsairs plan to make the goods available outside of the Fanatec shop will also mean they need to have more of the existing products available than before, so that will come first too.

 

[xDriver69x]

I'm looking for something that gives a more realistic feeling, which is what hydraulic ones do, so I didn't talk about performance.

If we talk about performance, the hydraulic one should still be better, because it offers continuity in its performance, unlike elastomers, which with the passage of time and use, lose their initial properties, becoming softer.

What do you mean realistic? When you press the brake it forces you forward? Your seat tilts?

I think things are getting detached from reality as what a pedal does. If I get in my track car and press the brake pedal compared to my pedal in my rig, the only difference is that when I start my car my pedal is softer than when it's off and there is no booster vacuum. Do you need a brake booster vaccum to get this realism?

 

[VFOURMAX1]

I'm looking for something that gives a more realistic feeling, which is what hydraulic ones do, so I didn't talk about performance.

If we talk about performance, the hydraulic one should still be better, because it offers continuity in its performance, unlike elastomers, which with the passage of time and use, lose their initial properties, becoming softer.

And with Hydraulics over time the seals will wear/deteriorate and leak whatever fluid is being used all over your rig and floor.
I have yet to have used a set of elastomer bushings to a point they changed the feeling or operation and needed to be replaced.

But then I sim race in my stocking feet and set the brake pedal up to where I do not need to stand on it with all my weight to get full activation of the brakes either.
Same goes for my steering I fully embrace the concept of power steering so I do not need my steering set up where it takes excessive effort to get the car to turn into and through a corner.

You talk about being realistic?
Do people not notice that most race drivers are slim, more slightly built fellows and do not look through the upper chest/arms and legs like gym rats that are applying tons of force to the steering and braking inputs for multiple hours/laps during a race?

Again in a sim setting a hydraulic pedal set still relies on conversion to a digital signal and the means of whether by dampers or fluid compression of how the pressure is distributed upon the pressure sensor which it and software settings are actually doing all the work is irrelevant except for complexity and most of all cost.

 

[Daz555]

And with Hydraulics over time the seals will wear/deteriorate and leak whatever fluid is being used all over your rig and floor.
I have yet to have used a set of elastomer bushings to a point they changed the feeling or operation and needed to be replaced.

But then I sim race in my stocking feet and set the brake pedal up to where I do not need to stand on it with all my weight to get full activation of the brakes either.
Same goes for my steering I fully embrace the concept of power steering so I do not need my steering set up where it takes excessive effort to get the car to turn into and through a corner.

You talk about being realistic?
Do people not notice that most race drivers are slim, more slightly built fellows and do not look through the upper chest/arms and legs like gym rats that are applying tons of force to the steering and braking inputs for multiple hours/laps during a race?

Again in a sim setting a hydraulic pedal set still relies on conversion to a digital signal and the means of whether by dampers or fluid compression of how the pressure is distributed upon the pressure sensor which it and software settings are actually doing all the work is irrelevant except for complexity and most of all cost.

We are all different and have different needs and wants. Some players find a hydraulic pedal more immersive and easier to control. Others do not. That's just how things are.

 

[Daz555]

Corsair does not automatically save things for those who care about quality:

TLDR - Corsair have no interest in quality.

 

[PJTierney]

Hmm.

Haven’t seen that video yet but my personal PC is a Corsair One from 2018. It’s been good for the last 6 years; I opened it a while back and it didn’t even have any dust inside.

 

[super_gt]

 

[Morilec]

I had a quick look at it, good stuff, we're on the right track, but as usual hopefully it'll be available to the public as soon as possible.

 

[GlamFM]

Damn this wheel looks amazing. Can't watch the video at work. Any word on the price? I'm guessing 1k+?

 

[super_gt]

I'm guessing 1k+?

No, it's a CSL Elite steering wheel.

 

[Morilec]

I think around 200/250 maximum.

 

[super_gt]

200

This steering wheel is too good to cost 200.

 

[VFOURMAX1]

This steering wheel is too good to cost 200.

I have no idea what this will actually sell for but a few products like this priced way under market expectations could do wonders to put a lot of the more recent bad press and negativity towards the brand behind them and pull new sim racers and keep current users in the Fanatec eco system.

I will admit I like Fanatec products and have owned a fair amount of them and never had any problems with the gear at all.
I am squarely in the middle of their targeted audience as I want better gear than the big box Logitech stuff but yet do not want to spend $1200+ for a set of pedals, $700+ for a wheel and $1800 for a wheel base to play a video game.

 

[super_gt]

No pricing and availability are presently available, but Fanatec expects the final details to be locked in ‘soon’.

 

[Morilec]

The Bentley steering wheel is available on the site for purchase, 2000€

Podium Steering Wheel Bentley GT3

Das Podium Lenkrad Bentley GT3 wurde gleichzeitig für das reale Pikes Peak Rennauto und für Sim Racing in Kooperation mit Bentley und ihrem Motorsportteam entwickelt.

fanatec.com

 

[PJTierney]

I do want that handbrake 🙂

 

[Daz555]

Damn this wheel looks amazing. Can't watch the video at work. Any word on the price? I'm guessing 1k+?

If you are referring to the Porsche wheel - it's in the CSL range so it would be daft if Fanatec priced it above any of the Podium and Clubsport stuff wheels.

Most expensive CSL wheels currently come in at €199 and I think the Clubsports start at about €299.

 

[Kriptical]

I’d ballpark the porsche around $2-350, the bentley with that screen is going to be super pricey. But that things really for non vr users.

Wtb full force enabled pedals. I’d rebuy my shifter if it were full force equipped. (Im console only and don’t want to buy a laptop to run with the ps5 in order to put butkickers into the set up.


Sooooo many wheels the past year. Time to move on to other stuff.

 

[Daz555]

I’d ballpark the porsche around $2-350, the bentley with that screen is going to be super pricey. But that things really for non vr users.

Wtb full force enabled pedals. I’d rebuy my shifter if it were full force equipped. (Im console only and don’t want to buy a laptop to run with the ps5 in order to put butkickers into the set up.


Sooooo many wheels the past year. Time to move on to other stuff.

The Bentley is already on sale - €1999/$1999

 

[Kriptical]

The Bentley is already on sale - €1999/$1999

So glad to play vr and be untempted!

The Porsche one, with that control layout, seems interesting though.

 

[xDriver69x]

If only Polyphony Digital would allow mapping of any buttons, especially mapping not just driving/MFD/signal controls, but controls for replays, and livery creation, so I can use my paddles and pedals throughout the experience.

 

[rsspyder21]

Most likely will buy that wheel if it’s a good size—min 290-300mm—which it looks like it is. But damn, I wish they would finally do a new F1 wheel with modern features and a larger size, plus an actual real Porsche GT3/RSR wheel replica.

 

[super_gt]

I read somewhere that it is 305mm.

 

[super_gt]

 

[super_gt]

 

[super_gt]

 

[Kriptical]

Seems reassuring enough.

Glad to hear him mention pedals. Definitely be on the preorder list for something high end in that department.

 

[Jezza819]

I'm debating if I have the technical skills to try and install the QR2 quick release system. Having watched a few review videos showing the installation, I have serious doubts if I can pull it off.

Also since I have the Fanatec cockpit rig I would like to get a round rim for older cars and other non race cars. When I had the GT Omega portable wheel stand I didn't have room between the wheel base and my knees for a round rim so I bought a D shaped rim but it proved to be too light weight and the rim thickness was too thin. It just didn't feel good in my hands.

 

[RS60NR]

I'm debating if I have the technical skills to try and install the QR2 quick release system. Having watched a few review videos showing the installation, I have serious doubts if I can pull it off.

The installation is quite straight forward, both base side and wheel side. Work slowly and follow the steps. A simple torque wrench is useful and you can find them for not much on Amazon

Or you could find a tech at a local phone repair shop to help. Its a pretty quick installation