Fanatec acquired by Corsair

[NosOsH]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

I know thats the reason I never ended up buying into the ecosystem for gt7, too prohibitively expensive for value.
I still want to buy the dd extreme, but by the time I got one imported into Canada it'd be 2500$ dang near.
If Corsair does get to keep what they stole, I hope they find a way to bring costs down on their product, to ship more product. Hopefully to more countries without duties being tacked on to boot, get the gran Turismo wheel in stores.

 

[Morilec]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

I know thats the reason I never ended up buying into the ecosystem for gt7, too prohibitively expensive for value.
I still want to buy the dd extreme, but by the time I got one imported into Canada it'd be 2500$ dang near.
If Corsair does get to keep what they stole, I hope they find a way to bring costs down on their product, to ship more product. Hopefully to more countries without duties being tacked on to boot, get the gran Turismo wheel in stores.

Sony doesn't charge any taxes or anything, they force you to buy their compatibility chips, which are around 100€, which the customers pay, Fanatec has never lost money from that.
As for GT7, Fanatec is the official steering wheel, because it is the sponsor, like every sponsor pays to have visibility, it is advertising.

 

[timekiller001]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

The PS compatible wheel bases have been more expensive than their PC only counterpart for a reason - to cover those costs for the PS chip, as Morilec pointed out. This was definitely not the reason for them going down

 

[watto79]

which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.

So many citations needed.

 

[super_gt]

CORSAIR steht kurz vor der Übernahme von Fanatec Sim Racing | Corporate - EQS News

www.eqs-news.com

CORSAIR Close to Acquiring Fanatec Sim Racing

Milpitas (California)/Landshut, September 16, 2024 – CORSAIR is pleased to announce that it has signed a definitive agreement with Endor AG to acquire the Fanatec Sim Racing product line. This includes the current Endor employees who support and operate the Fanatec product line. The headquarters will remain in Landshut, where development of future Fanatec sim racing products will continue. The transaction is expected to close shortly.

Fanatec is known worldwide for bringing the thrilling experience of sim racing into many homes and racing centers and building a large fan base of passionate followers. With high-quality hardware and innovative products, Fanatec has set the standard in the sim racing industry for an immersive racing experience. Specialized sim racing products include force feedback steering wheels, pedals, gearshifts and complete cockpits for PlayStation, Xbox and PC-based racing simulators.

Andy Paul, CEO of CORSAIR, expressed his excitement about the event: "We have long admired the Fanatec brand and are excited to bring these outstanding products to an even wider audience. We are committed to continuing to develop and expand Fanatec's product lines, improve customer service, and meet the needs of the sim racing community. Racing enthusiasts can look forward to an even more immersive and realistic sim racing experience."

Andres Ruff, CEO of Endor AG, added: "CORSAIR shares Fanatec's passion for innovation, quality and continuous development. CORSAIR will open up new opportunities for Fanatec to further expand the portfolio and work even more closely with the growing sim racing community."

CORSAIR plans to make significant investments in the Fanatec brand, its products, and global availability through its distribution channels. All existing and future Fanatec customers will benefit from CORSAIR's world-class support, including warranty and software updates.

CORSAIR and Fanatec share the immediate goal of ensuring timely delivery of all orders and maintaining customer satisfaction during this ownership transition.

Corsair-owned Fanatec commits to ADAC Sim Racing Expo 2024

Under new ownership, sim racing peripheral manufacturer Fanatec has announced that it will be attending this year's ADAC Sim Racing Expo.

traxion.gg

 

[TexHill]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

I know thats the reason I never ended up buying into the ecosystem for gt7, too prohibitively expensive for value.
I still want to buy the dd extreme, but by the time I got one imported into Canada it'd be 2500$ dang near.
If Corsair does get to keep what they stole, I hope they find a way to bring costs down on their product, to ship more product. Hopefully to more countries without duties being tacked on to boot, get the gran Turismo wheel in stores.

Where are you getting 30% from? I doubt Andor/Fanatec agreed to pay Sony that amount per wheel sold, and if they did, then Andor/Fanatec deserved to go out of business.

 

[i386]

This includes the current Endor employees

the ceo (andres ruff) is also an employee of endor. I bet my ps5 that he has a nice contract and will get a very big cheque/nice bonus when he leaves the company ._.

 

[PJTierney]

CORSAIR plans to make significant investments in the Fanatec brand, its products, and global availability through its distribution channels.

This seems to hint at hardware being available in more places than Fanatec.com, maybe one day we'll see wheels on Amazon etc.

 

[Morilec]

CORSAIR steht kurz vor der Übernahme von Fanatec Sim Racing | Corporate - EQS News

www.eqs-news.com

Corsair-owned Fanatec commits to ADAC Sim Racing Expo 2024

Under new ownership, sim racing peripheral manufacturer Fanatec has announced that it will be attending this year's ADAC Sim Racing Expo.

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Great, can't wait to see new hardware, can't wait to see some dynamic oil pedals.

Where are you getting 30% from? I doubt Andor/Fanatec agreed to pay Sony that amount per wheel sold, and if they did, then Andor/Fanatec deserved to go out of business.

I think he made the argument that if Sony takes 30% of digital game sales, it will do the same with third-party hardware.

 

[rsspyder21]

Interesting that the release says the HQ will continue to operate as the HQ. The info/statement that came out last week said the property wasn't part of the deal and was up for sale, did it not?

 

[TexHill]

Interesting that the release says the HQ will continue to operate as the HQ. The info/statement that came out last week said the property wasn't part of the deal and was up for sale, did it not?

My understanding is that Andor still occupies their previous HQ, and that that is the building Corsair intends to keep. The new building with the track will be sold.

 

[rsspyder21]

My understanding is that Andor still occupies their previous HQ, and that that is the building Corsair intends to keep. The new building with the track will be sold.

Ah. Poor employees must be super bummed about that.

 

[TexHill]

Ah. Poor employees must be super bummed about that.

They're probably just happy to still have jobs.

 

[rsspyder21]

They're probably just happy to still have jobs.

I’m know. I was half joking. But only half 🤣

 

[Famine]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Corsair Deal for Fanatec Confirmed: Fanatec Product Lines to Continue​

Following the news that American peripheral manufacturer Corsair had made a deal with the administrators of Endor AG over the weekend, it’s now been confirmed that Fanatec will live on under the new owners...

 

[Jump_Ace]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Corsair Deal for Fanatec Confirmed: Fanatec Product Lines to Continue​

Following the news that American peripheral manufacturer Corsair had made a deal with the administrators of Endor AG over the weekend, it’s now been confirmed that Fanatec will live on under the new owners...

Thats a huge relief. Next up, hydraulic brake pedal set.


Jerome

 

[xDriver69x]

This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Corsair Deal for Fanatec Confirmed: Fanatec Product Lines to Continue​

Following the news that American peripheral manufacturer Corsair had made a deal with the administrators of Endor AG over the weekend, it’s now been confirmed that Fanatec will live on under the new owners...

So if the Fanatec by Corsair DD+ isn't used in Tokyo, does that mean that GT8 is in development and the Track list will include My First Gran Tursimo love, Autumn Ring mini & SSR11 along with the Chevy SSR?

 

[timekiller001]

So if the Fanatec by Corsair DD+ isn't used in Tokyo, does that mean that GT8 is in development and the Track list will include My First Gran Tursimo love, Autumn Ring mini & SSR11 along with the Chevy SSR?

My personal guess is - as long as the disconnect issues with the DD+ firmware are not 100% fixed, they'll stay with the DD Pro. Since they do appear rather randomly without anything specific triggering them, it would be a huge risk to use them competitively. Imagine two drivers going side by side into the last corner fighting for the win just to have a wheel disconnect. The public outcry would be massive.

Last time I had contact with them was 1.5 months ago where they were still analyzing and asking for affected wheelbases, which is why I got a new base. I haven't really followed the scene since, since I am taking a break from gaming at the moment, but I didn't see a new firmware release yet so I don't think it's fully fixed.

On the other hand, the Corsair takeover should at least improve the customer service times massively in the near future (at least I hope so, I didn't have contact with them yet)

 

[RS60NR]

My personal guess is - as long as the disconnect issues with the DD+ firmware are not 100% fixed, they'll stay with the DD Pro. Since they do appear rather randomly without anything specific triggering them, it would be a huge risk to use them competitively. Imagine two drivers going side by side into the last corner fighting for the win just to have a wheel disconnect. The public outcry would be massive.

Last time I had contact with them was 1.5 months ago where they were still analyzing and asking for affected wheelbases, which is why I got a new base. I haven't really followed the scene since, since I am taking a break from gaming at the moment, but I didn't see a new firmware release yet so I don't think it's fully fixed.

On the other hand, the Corsair takeover should at least improve the customer service times massively in the near future (at least I hope so, I didn't have contact with them yet)

A update base file for the disconnect and CSL pedal issues has been posted bottom of page 8

DD (+) base update

 

[xDriver69x]

My personal guess is - as long as the disconnect issues with the DD+ firmware are not 100% fixed, they'll stay with the DD Pro. Since they do appear rather randomly without anything specific triggering them, it would be a huge risk to use them competitively. Imagine two drivers going side by side into the last corner fighting for the win just to have a wheel disconnect. The public outcry would be massive.

Last time I had contact with them was 1.5 months ago where they were still analyzing and asking for affected wheelbases, which is why I got a new base. I haven't really followed the scene since, since I am taking a break from gaming at the moment, but I didn't see a new firmware release yet so I don't think it's fully fixed.

On the other hand, the Corsair takeover should at least improve the customer service times massively in the near future (at least I hope so, I didn't have contact with them yet)

Fanatec released a 2.2.3.7 base firmware update this morning targeting this issue: - https://forum.fanatec.com/discussion/comment/130097/#Comment_130097

Maybe they're frantically(fanatically?) trying to get it sorted for Tokyo. 🤞

 

[Jump_Ace]

My personal guess is - as long as the disconnect issues with the DD+ firmware are not 100% fixed, they'll stay with the DD Pro. Since they do appear rather randomly without anything specific triggering them, it would be a huge risk to use them competitively. Imagine two drivers going side by side into the last corner fighting for the win just to have a wheel disconnect. The public outcry would be massive.

That was my experience with the T300 wheel back in the day-suddenly the game would just pause..."[insert expletive here]!" . It basically marked the end of online races for me outside of the requirements to platinum each game.


Jerome

 

[Daz555]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

It's not really a tax. It's a licence fee that Fanatec, like every other vendor, simply passes onto the consumer - which is why the DD Pro is €100 more than the CSL DD.

 

[Pilot625]

How much do you think the "Sony tax" for each ddpro added up to?, which they received no doubt. 2-3 hundred million?
Just a guess but all I'm saying is, I wonder if the 30 % or so Sony tax factured into Fanatecs financial woes.
That's what I meant by saying Sony should have helped. Give their partner a break, and maybe try being a little more pro-consumer and less greedy overlords. The official GT wheel brings down the manufacturer for a piddly couple hundred mil, money Sony wouldn't even notice.

I know thats the reason I never ended up buying into the ecosystem for gt7, too prohibitively expensive for value.
I still want to buy the dd extreme, but by the time I got one imported into Canada it'd be 2500$ dang near.
If Corsair does get to keep what they stole, I hope they find a way to bring costs down on their product, to ship more product. Hopefully to more countries without duties being tacked on to boot, get the gran Turismo wheel in stores.

Interesting. You blame, “Sony Tax” which I’m guessing is the paid exclusivity Fanatec has for GT7 but you don’t blame your elected officials for taxing the heck out of you for a simple product. I never understood why people are so accepting of the constant barrage of taxes, that are then wasted, heaped on them but are quick to blame a company for making a small margin on a product. The “Sony Tax,” as you dubbed it, pales in comparison to the nonsense Canadians have to deal with.

 

[cjsrt4]

I know thats the reason I never ended up buying into the ecosystem for gt7, too prohibitively expensive for value.

For an extra $100 US, you have a wheel setup that supports all platforms (PC, XBOX and PS). You don't get a better value than that.

If Corsair does get to keep what they stole, I hope they find a way to bring costs down on their product, to ship more product. Hopefully to more countries without duties being tacked on to boot, get the gran Turismo wheel in stores.

I would love this as well, but it won't happen. They sell PC fans for $60 a piece. Their SIM rig that they showed off, is all proprietary bent tubes and completely custom. That's most likely gonna cost 1500-2000 in itself. I can see them expanding production so it's more readily available to consumers everywhere, but they're not gonna play Oprah and give it away. I'm expecting prices to go up because more people will be involved with the brand.

 

[xDriver69x]

For an extra $100 US, you have a wheel setup that supports all platforms (PC, XBOX and PS). You don't get a better value than that.


I would love this as well, but it won't happen. They sell PC fans for $60 a piece. Their SIM rig that they showed off, is all proprietary bent tubes and completely custom. That's most likely gonna cost 1500-2000 in itself. I can see them expanding production so it's more readily available to consumers everywhere, but they're not gonna play Oprah and give it away. I'm expecting prices to go up because more people will be involved with the brand.

Yeaup, Get that BMW M4 GT3 wheel now before the $5,000 Corsair on sale deals start up. I'm all set, so just lookin out for the community

 

[cjsrt4]

Yeaup, Get that BMW M4 GT3 wheel now before the $5,000 Corsair on sale deals start up. I'm all set, so just lookin out for the community

I really hope they don't jack the price up that much, but you never know. I'm more worried about compatibility right now. Fanatec is the only company that offers a PS compatible base that supports PC and Xbox, as long as you have a wheel that works with the system. They can easily take that feature out by getting rid of the compatibility mode feature in the base itself. Or just blocking out Xbox mode for the PS bases. I'm glad the brand is still alive and I hope it's what's best for the consumer, but I'm also nervous they're going to pull some shady moves.

 

[Childe Roland]

I really hope they don't jack the price up that much, but you never know. I'm more worried about compatibility right now. Fanatec is the only company that offers a PS compatible base that supports PC and Xbox

Since yesterday, they are not alone.
Now with the Logitech DD base for PS/PC combined with the HUB for xbox you have compatibility for the 3 platforms in one device.

 

[cjsrt4]

Since yesterday, they are not alone.
Now with the Logitech DD base for PS/PC combined with the HUB for xbox you have compatibility for the 3 platforms in one device.

$150 for a hub is a great price. Kudos to Logitech.

 

[xDriver69x]

$150 for a hub is a great price. Kudos to Logitech.

$900 seems the starting point. It will interesting to see how it all adds up, I can't find components that list PS5 compatability, and it appears it is $900 for things at a baseline.

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Design your ultimate virtual racing setup. Our configurator lets you explore various sim racing gear, wheels, pedals, seats, and accessories. Find the perfect combination for your needs and budget.

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[timekiller001]

$900 seems the starting point. It will interesting to see how it all adds up, I can't find components that list PS5 compatability, and it appears it is $900 for things at a baseline.

Sim Racing Configurator | Logitech G

Design your ultimate virtual racing setup. Our configurator lets you explore various sim racing gear, wheels, pedals, seats, and accessories. Find the perfect combination for your needs and budget.

www.logitechg.com

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Fanatec and Logitech have the same setup: The PS compatibility chip is in the wheelbase, the Xbox compatibility chip is in the wheels. Therefore none of the peripherals other than the wheelbase need to state the PS compatibility