They will probably give some discounts, but for me it won't be much.I would love to upgrade my gear and get the V3 pedals. Is there any chance we get some black Friday discounts with this insolvency going on? I didn’t read too much about the situation, too confusing for me
No one knows at the moment. The company is up for sale, the deadline for offers ended a few weeks ago and are most likely currently in the process of being checked and negotiated.I would love to upgrade my gear and get the V3 pedals. Is there any chance we get some black Friday discounts with this insolvency going on? I didn’t read too much about the situation, too confusing for me
Is anyone fluent enough with German insolvency laws to know if this liquidation: "Endor AG will be fully liquidated as part of the insolvency proceedings and its stock market listing will be terminated shortly. Shareholders should expect not to receive any payments"Corsair takes over -
I tried to Google a bit but couldn't find anything specific to that. The only legal obligation they would have is the warranty anyway, there's no legal obligation to create new drivers. But given laws are usually rather consumer friendly in this case, I would expect that any warranty claims have to be taken over by Corsair.Is anyone fluent enough with German insolvency laws to know if this liquidation: "Endor AG will be fully liquidated as part of the insolvency proceedings and its stock market listing will be terminated shortly. Shareholders should expect not to receive any payments"
Means Fanatec products ( support, i.e. drivers, warranties, etc) are to be taken over by Corsair too, or if they also get rid of all responsibilities towards current Fanatec product owners that way (and essentially just keep the brand name, and the employees to form the new Corsair brand) ?
If it's the later, they'd be burning a lot of customer bridges right there and I doubt very few Fanatec owners, of which there is a fair lot, would touch Corsair with a ten-foot-pole ever again.
Curious how this will play out. But I'd assume there's going to be some press releases to follow now.
Only lawyers will be qualified enough to give you a "real" answerIs anyone fluent enough with German insolvency laws to know if this liquidation: "Endor AG will be fully liquidated as part of the insolvency proceedings and its stock market listing will be terminated shortly. Shareholders should expect not to receive any payments"
Means Fanatec products ( support, i.e. drivers, warranties, etc) are to be taken over by Corsair too, or if they also get rid of all responsibilities towards current Fanatec product owners that way (and essentially just keep the brand name, and the employees to form the new Corsair brand) ?
Is the deal done and dusted, or might the situation change again?Corsair takes over -
The founder ran his company into the ground and the shareholders at this point were mostly meme-stock speculators. The employees still have their jobs and that's what people should actually care about.So brutal for share holders and founder
Left with nothing
A joke
Sony should have done something, banks and corporations win again as usual
This statement makes no sense. Why should Sony care? Sony's only goal is to make money for its shareholders. Sony isn't affected by this situation and already made their money off of Fanatec - a deal that was probably another nail in Endor/Fanatec's coffin - and could care less if Fanatec stayed solvent. It may have even benefited Sony for Fanatec to go down because then Sony may be able to resell the "official GT7 wheel" license to another manufacturer.Sony should have done something,
All Sony would have done is exactly what Corsair has done (as that returns most value to their shareholders). Why would that be any better?We both know, it makes a lot sense, for the reasons you state
If I find out that I have to use iCue for the software updates, I'm jumping out of a window....Corsair cant wait to put all those RGBs on your wheels and pedals
Agreed. I'm glad it's in the hands of a stable company. And a company that specializes in PC components.Seems like the best possible outcome for consumers to me.
I'm not sure what you mean by this. It's literally a 50/50 split between said banks and said corporations winning or losing. Asking Sony to do something is like asking Ford to help you with your mortgage payment because you're about to lose your house....Sony should have done something, banks and corporations win again as usual
What?It goes to show how easily misinformation campaigns in forums manipulate everything when AI article writing takes reddit posts as gospel.
...And what exactly could they have done? Why Sony specifically even?Sony should have done something, banks and corporations win again as usual
I'm trying to decipher what you're talking about in here, but it sounds like you're blaming competitive corporations for the downfall of Fanatec? I'm not sure what misinformation you're referencing, but TJ went on a rant, publicly trying to blame everyone else for the fall of the company. I can think of 2 people that do this daily on social media. One owns the largest EV company in the world, and the other one has half of the USA brainwashed into thinking he's sane enough to be president again, after recently being shot at...Corporate coops and financier vultures will ensure there is no more soul or passion to lead the market. It was a good run... I have orders from over 15 years ago when the order numbers where just a few digits long. It goes to show how easily misinformation campaigns in forums manipulate everything when AI article writing takes reddit posts as gospel.
Competitors see this (/are doing this) and it likely will be quite nasty till it gets absolutely untenable and long overdue regulations for identity verification and fact validity is required. But would there be anything that could be reported on anymore other than official public filings and rulings?
Corporate coops and financier vultures will ensure there is no more soul or passion to lead the market. It was a good run... I have orders from over 15 years ago when the order numbers where just a few digits long. It goes to show how easily misinformation campaigns in forums manipulate everything when AI article writing takes reddit posts as gospel.
Competitors see this (/are doing this) and it likely will be quite nasty till it gets absolutely untenable and long overdue regulations for identity verification and fact validity is required. But would there be anything that could be reported on anymore other than official public filings and rulings?
Well, there is a lot of arguing about the past. What I would like to know is how Corsair is going to conduct business in the future. The only window to that is how they run their other acquisitions. All I know is their Elgato business unit is essentially the same as it was when they took over. I don’t know if this would be good or bad for the Fanatec arm. They definitely need to invest in R&D because their products are quickly being overrun by Moza, Thrustmaster, and other like companies.
Last I checked, @Famine is a human beingCorporate coops and financier vultures will ensure there is no more soul or passion to lead the market. It was a good run... I have orders from over 15 years ago when the order numbers where just a few digits long. It goes to show how easily misinformation campaigns in forums manipulate everything when AI article writing takes reddit posts as gospel.
Competitors see this (/are doing this) and it likely will be quite nasty till it gets absolutely untenable and long overdue regulations for identity verification and fact validity is required. But would there be anything that could be reported on anymore other than official public filings and rulings?