Fanatec Gran Turismo DD Extreme Wheel

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Do it before warranty is out but might be worthwhile waiting for customer support to catch up just in case

I did mine yesterday but its handled every update and downgrade so far so wasn’t too worried
 
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Yeah when I saw Maurice’s post I went ahead and upgraded my DD+ to 463. Just to rule out any hardware issues while still under warranty. 3 hours of driving time on 463 and no issues yet (knock on wood). For comparison I logged 21 hours of driving time on 462 without a single disconnect.
 
Has anyone out there from the UK, or any country that has to pay separate customs charges, had any issues with Fanatec/UPS regarding the charges?

When I bought my DD Extreme I had to pay UPS £221.35 for customs charges, perfectly normal so no problem there.

A couple of months later I had to send the whole lot back because the OLED failed, it was sent back to a UK address.

Fanatec replaced it with a complete new DD Extreme from Germany and UPS asked me to pay customs charges again, this time £62.98.

When I view the replacement order on the Fanatec website it shows €0.00 for the wheel and €0.00 for the shipping, the invoice also shows €0.00 but there is a Proforma invoice showing a value of €259.99 and states 'NO COMMERCIAL VALUE. VALUE FOR CUSTOMS PURPOSES ONLY 259.99 EURO'
 
hrtrob
Glad you got it sorted out @PirovacBoy

Do you feel any difference with 463 compared to the previous firmware that you had?

I’ve now logged 11 hours of driving time with 463 and no issues yet
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Yes it feels slightly different now.
I've played quite a lot over the past few days and the most obvious difference is less cogging.
It's almost non existent now.
The dynamic range also feels lifted.
Overall I'm very satisfied with the update.
No issues so far.
Hope it stays like that.
Keep in mind, I haven't driven any GR Cars yet.
Just Road Cars around Nordschleife.
On comfort tires.
Just awesome.
 
PirovacBoy
Yes it feels slightly different now.
I've played quite a lot over the past few days and the most obvious difference is less cogging.
It's almost non existent now.
The dynamic range also feels lifted.
Overall I'm very satisfied with the update.
No issues so far.
Hope it stays like that.
Keep in mind, I haven't driven any GR Cars yet.
Just Road Cars around Nordschleife.
On comfort tires.
Just awesome.
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Are you still using your recommended settings as posted previously, or have you tweaked them since the update?
 
Oi Oi JC
Are you still using your recommended settings as posted previously, or have you tweaked them since the update?
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I'm still using my trustworthy settings as posted previously.

GT7 In Game
Torque 4
Sensitivity 8

Wheelbase Settings
FFB 100
NDP 28
NFR 5
NIN 1
INT 4
BRF 55

Everything else default

To me personally these settings are unrivaled in terms of overall authenticity and strength /fidelity.

No matter the car/tire combination.
It always feels spot on.
 
PirovacBoy
I'm still using my trustworthy settings as posted previously.

GT7 In Game
Torque 4
Sensitivity 8

Wheelbase Settings
FFB 100
NDP 28
NFR 5
NIN 1
INT 4
BRF 55

Everything else default

To me personally these settings are unrivaled in terms of overall authenticity and strength /fidelity.

No matter the car/tire combination.
It always feels spot on.
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Thanks 👍
 
Had my first issue since upgrading to 462. I'm on a DD+ and was playing with the GT Extreme wheel on. I lost FFB for a few seconds but all my inputs were still valid. It's definitely an upgrade over everything fully cutting out but I was lucky I wasn't fighting the wheel through a corner or something cause if it cut out in that scenario I could have easily given it some accidental rotation by over cranking the wheel when the resistance left.

I've probably played close to 10 hours before this happened, so not frequent, and definitely better than losing all control. Not sure if similar things have been reported as I haven't seen this here but I also haven't really been following the Fanatec forums since I upgraded the firmware.
 
There is a newer base FW in driver 463, I’ve only had one weird loss of FF w that one in the last 30-40 hrs of use
 
PirovacBoy
I'm still using my trustworthy settings as posted previously.

GT7 In Game
Torque 4
Sensitivity 8

Wheelbase Settings
FFB 100
NDP 28
NFR 5
NIN 1
INT 4
BRF 55

Everything else default

To me personally these settings are unrivaled in terms of overall authenticity and strength /fidelity.

No matter the car/tire combination.
It always feels spot on.
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Is this only the DD Extreme or might these apply to the 8NM GT DD Pro?
 
What DD+ setting I need to modify for GT1 cars when high speed..at Le Mans and mainly without chicane it s undriveable , the wheel vibrates a lot in the Hunaudieres straight…
 
Andy Lapi
What DD+ setting I need to modify for GT1 cars when high speed..at Le Mans and mainly without chicane it s undriveable , the wheel vibrates a lot in the Hunaudieres straight…
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The FOR (not FFB) setting in the Fanatec tuning menu on your wheel seems to do it. Drop it below 100 to 80 or 70 and try that. Can't remember if I also lower the in-game torque menu.
 
Andy Lapi
What DD+ setting I need to modify for GT1 cars when high speed..at Le Mans and mainly without chicane it s undriveable , the wheel vibrates a lot in the Hunaudieres straight…
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Dang. This is the one thing i was hoping to be addressed.
🤬
 
Andy Lapi
What DD+ setting I need to modify for GT1 cars when high speed..at Le Mans and mainly without chicane it s undriveable , the wheel vibrates a lot in the Hunaudieres straight…
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It's worse now than it's ever been! I had a set of tweaks I could do really quick on the wheel to get rid of that in GT1 cars almost completely before and still have good FFB otherwise. Mainly raising INT and NDP. Now you can raise INT to 15 and NDP to 60 and it makes very little difference. Experimenting with in-game FFB setting doesn't seem to help now either. You can make it better, but it's still terrible.

Now it seems that shaking back and forth is the "main" type of force being put out of the game/wheel, and everything else is muted no matter what you do with GT-DD-X (DD+ base) settings or in-game settings. there is absolutely nothing realistic about that. It was hilarious watching the guys at the GT world series using GT-DD-X wheels and they're basically fighting that the entire time. I don't know how anyone thinks that is normal.

I'm not sure when this change happened, if it's the new 463 driver and Firmwares or if it's GT7 or both. It's really bad though. You're right, it's un-drive-able unless you turn the overall FFB down so low it basically like not having FFB at all.
 
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BWX
It's worse now than it's ever been! I had a set of tweaks I could do really quick on the wheel to get rid of that in GT1 cars almost completely before and still have good FFB otherwise. Mainly raising INT and NDP. Now you can raise INT to 15 and NDP to 60 and it makes very little difference. Experimenting with in-game FFB setting doesn't seem to help now either. You can make it better, but it's still terrible.

Now it seems that shaking back and forth is the "main" type of force being put out of the game/wheel, and everything else is muted no matter what you do with GT-DD-X (DD+ base) settings or in-game settings. there is absolutely nothing realistic about that. It was hilarious watching the guys at the GT world series using GT-DD-X wheels and they're basically fighting that the entire time. I don't know how anyone thinks that is normal.

I'm not sure when this change happened, if it's the new 463 driver and Firmwares or if it's GT7 or both. It's really bad though. You're right, it's un-drive-able unless you turn the overall FFB down so low it basically like not having FFB at all.
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I am on 455 driver and it was ok with GT1 until one of the last update (1.49 or 52?) I think I saw a thread (I was unable to find it.,) were somebody gave an advice for DD+ settings modification..
 
Andy Lapi
I am on 455 driver and it was ok with GT1 until one of the last update (1.49 or 52?) I think I saw a thread (I was unable to find it.,) were somebody gave an advice for DD+ settings modification..
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Yeah I'm sure there's some combination of settings that will make it better for those types of cars. Next time I'm in one of those cars I'll try some different things. Other cars feel great though, especially road cars on sport tires or comfort tires.
 
This is by far the best explanation about how the Force Feedback works and should be applied correctly.
No matter the game.
This young Lad hits it on point.
Very very useful information and perfectly described.
You'll never ever again question anything in regards of FFB Setup.
Enjoy it.
So so useful.

 

Fanatec Driver 464 Release Candidate​


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Fanatec Driver 464 Release Candidate

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Changelog of driver 464 (since 463)

Firmware versions included

  • Podium DD1 / DD2 Base: 3.3.0.1 (NEW)
  • Podium DD1 / DD2 Motor: 3.0.0.2
  • Podium DD1 / DD2 WQR: 7
  • ClubSport DD(+) Base: 2.3.0.1 (NEW)
  • ClubSport DD(+) WQR: 1.1.0.3
  • CSL DD / GT DD Pro Base: 1.3.0.1 (NEW)
  • CSL DD / GT DD Pro Motor: 1.0.3.2
  • CSL DD / GT DD Pro WQR: 6.0.1.1
  • CSW V1 Base: 693
  • CSW V2 Base: 693
  • CSW V2.5 Base: 693
  • CSL Elite Base: 693
  • CSL Elite Base PS4: 693
  • CSL / CSW Motor: 22
  • Podium Bentley GT3 Wheel: 1.0.7.0
  • Podium Bentley GT3 Video: 1.0.2.0
  • Podium BMW M4 GT3: 9
  • Podium Hub: 6
  • Podium BME: 24
  • Podium BMR: 1.0.0.6
  • CS SW Formula V2(X), V2.5(X): 47 / 1.0.2.0
  • CS SW RS: 4
  • CS SW BMW V2: 3
  • CS SW F1 Esports V2: 5
  • CS UH V2 / UHX V2: 2
  • GT DD Extreme SW: 1.0.7.0
  • GT DD Pro SW: 8 / 1.0.1.0
  • CSL Elite SW McLaren GT3: 37
  • CSL Elite SW McLaren GT3 V2: 47
  • CSL Elite SW WRC: 4
  • CSL UH, CSL UH V2: 8
  • CS P V3: 1.35
  • CSL Elite Pedals V2: 1.6
  • CSL Elite Pedals Load Cell Kit: 1.13
  • CSL Pedals Load Cell Kit: 1.8
  • CS USB Adapter - Handbrake: 1.10
  • CS USB Adapter - Shifter: 1.12
  • CS USB Adapter - CSL Pedals: 1.1
  • CS USB Adapter - CSL Elite Pedals: 0.1


ClubSport Handbrake V2 (incl. V1/V1.5)

  • Fixed flickering of handbrake input on CS DD(+)
  • Improved automatic calibration of handbrake input
  • Fixed a sometimes incorrect scaling of handbrake input when setting a maximum value manually
  • Fixed losing manual handbrake calibration over time
  • New CS HB V2 Picture available when connected via USB


Known Issues

  • We are aware of missed shifts and button inputs on the P DDs and are investigating
  • When updating the CS DD base firmware, the wheel might not be detected until performing a restart. This is explained in a pop-up during the update procedure.
  • When entering a game menu while driving it can happen in some games that the FFB effect doesn't get canceled which results in the wheel turning to one side. (this got now fixed for the Podium DD but can still happen on the CSL DD. We will now apply the fix for the CSL DD as well)
  • Natural friction can start to feel weird after some time of driving. In case you experience issues with NFR, we suggest to turn it OFF for now. (this got now fixed for the Podium DD but can still happen on the CSL DD. We will now apply the fix for the CSL DD as well)
  • Even though the steering input jump which can result in a FFB jolt improved and happens less often, we still reports of the issue and want to investigate for further improvements
 

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