you wont be able to get in the 10's out of either car. the spoon doesnt even compare to the straight up type R civic after mods, its more of a touring civic, oh and i have a few turbo civics. the 93 Si 3 door is suprisingly quick with the turbo. i dont have the game in front of me but i think my fastest civic is the turbo type R, and it only runs low 12s or something