fed up . Uninstalled.

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Thats it Just got fed up with unrealistic steering and said id had enough. And uninstslled . will have no more contact with this game.

Well good luck with the games you race etc
All I can say is I have tried a few on track days ( I am no expert not even an amateur real driver).
But the feel of this game is as close as you will get. I have not tried AC, but it's better than GT & F1 to me (just needs livery editor to make it more real )
 
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Thats it Just got fed up with unrealistic steering and said id had enough. And uninstslled . will have no more contact with this game.
Racing games shouldn’t be easy because spoiler alert, racing isn’t easy. PC2 is one of the closest you’ll get for a sim on PS4.

Second spoiler alert, gts is user friendly deliberately.
 
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Racing games shouldn’t be easy because spoiler alert, racing isn’t easy. iRacing is one of the closest you’ll get for a sim on PS4.

Second spoiler alert, gts is user friendly deliberately.
IRacing, PS4 :confused:
 
Racing games shouldn’t be easy because spoiler alert, racing isn’t easy. iRacing is one of the closest you’ll get for a sim on PS4.

Second spoiler alert, gts is user friendly deliberately.
I guess you mean AC or PC2, unless I missed Iracing on PS4
 
I gave up and uninstalled a few weeks ago myself. Reinstalled last night and have enjoyed the best sim racing I’ve ever experienced. I guess I tweaked so many settings that I ruined the game. All I did was turn the fore feedback power strength down a bit so I don’t clip my T500 and it has been great racing:gtpflag:
 
I gave up and uninstalled a few weeks ago myself. Reinstalled last night and have enjoyed the best sim racing I’ve ever experienced. I guess I tweaked so many settings that I ruined the game. All I did was turn the fore feedback power strength down a bit so I don’t clip my T500 and it has been great racing:gtpflag:
Yea I did that a few times not uninstall, I deleted the data files and keep trying different settings.
Hopefully I 🤬 found the setting that I can keep. I have changed a few things in the configuration settings & only reduced the raw FFB to 82 the rest @50.
If this is not right I will just keep 🤬 trying, I just need to get my braking right then I can work on consistency & speed.
 
Thats it Just got fed up with unrealistic steering and said id had enough. And uninstslled . will have no more contact with this game.
Totally agree, it's ridiculously twitchy slidy. So many cars are completely ridiculous too in even more ways.
Plus sounds are complete crap, artificial sounding and can even give you headaches. Plus many other issues.
Many other games are more believable in basic feel, handling.
Not because a game is more complicated, detailed or supposedly hardcore or hard does it make it good or realistic.

It has many cool features and it is tempting but the basics are just not right.
Cheers.
 
Totally agree, it's ridiculously twitchy slidy. So many cars are completely ridiculous too in even more ways.
Plus sounds are complete crap, artificial sounding and can even give you headaches. Plus many other issues.
Many other games are more believable in basic feel, handling.
Not because a game is more complicated, detailed or supposedly hardcore or hard does it make it good or realistic.

It has many cool features and it is tempting but the basics are just not right.
Cheers.
Ha,that's funny. It's not the games fault you cannot figure out how to control the cars. Sounds are crap? Perhaps some not all. There are many threads on controller, wheel settings. Perhaps looking for them might help you.
 
Lol, sure buddy. And thanks for the free evaluation of my cognitive abilities.

Funny how? Im a clown to you, im here to make you laugh?..:D just kidding hehe 👍
 
Totally agree, it's ridiculously twitchy slidy. So many cars are completely ridiculous too in even more ways.

...Many other games are more believable in basic feel, handling.
Not because a game is more complicated, detailed or supposedly hardcore or hard does it make it good or realistic.
Real cars slide around. Ample oversteer is what makes a sim realistic, and PCARS2 is more realistic than most.

With Project CARS, SMS even deliberately moved away from the "difficult = realistic" mindset that surrounded previous PC sims. By that standard, PCARS2 can be really sticky. Like...boring sticky, as in an LMP1 on a warm afternoon around a thoroughly modern circuit. Some PC sim guys complain the games aren't difficult enough.
 
Real cars slide around. Ample oversteer is what makes a sim realistic, and PCARS2 is more realistic than most.

With Project CARS, SMS even deliberately moved away from the "difficult = realistic" mindset that surrounded previous PC sims. By that standard, PCARS2 can be really sticky. Like...boring sticky, as in an LMP1 on a warm afternoon around a thoroughly modern circuit. Some PC sim guys complain the games aren't difficult enough.
Yeah i admit i sometimes feel to comment harshly on it. I agree its great that cars feel lively and reactive, the opposite of boring. And it can be realistic of course, just seems the cars often feel too light, and twitchy, maybe its the cockpit cam moving too much.

I just tried it again now since a while, and well, it can feel amazing, feeling each curb and bumps on the ffb, seems to change each i try it, maybe its the cars or tracks or something like bugs or messed up setups that make it like this.

I don't feel i have difficulty controlling many of the cars, as you said, sometimes it's too sticky, with some cars it's a little hard to believe. Especially some like the jaguar F type and the old Porsche 911 carrera rsr.

Others feel light like made of paper, and twitchy from what i remember. I don't mean from oversteer like the rear sliding out, just too light and sensitive. Gonna try more again. Cheers.
Edit: also the loss and regaining of grip doesnt feel natural to me. It's like a constant slide with no feel and then back to grip.

And i use a g29, so i have to make the strength of ffb pretty light to get as much detail as i can, so it maybe contributes to that light weight feel too.
 
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This game can be really difficult I agree, but it’s so worth it. Reminds me I should fire it up again.

Certain cars are virtually impossible to control and other are sublime. And the track library is the best on the current gen console in my opinion. Love the legends car and track packs. The Vintage Prototypes are amazing stuff.

If I could only drive in wet conditions I wouldn’t put the game down. Otherwise it’s my go-to game for circuit racing.
 
@Jtheripper -- I have no perspective on the FFB in this game, but I can agree that the cars have a peculiar "light" feeling even purely from a physics perspective. Something isn't quite right, almost like cars are weightless and their motion is primarily governed by clever calculations from the tire model end of things, without appropriate kinetics on the chassis and weight of the car by itself. The extraordinarily wacky results of some crashes in this game appear to corroborate that notion; same with the most-unreasonably-twitchy cars out of the list.

If there's any truth in my hunch, it's incredible how good the handling is in spite of that. I also harbor a suspicion that the game is ultimately still based on an extensively redeveloped form of the ancient ISI engine, which is also impressive.
 
@Jtheripper -- I have no perspective on the FFB in this game, but I can agree that the cars have a peculiar "light" feeling even purely from a physics perspective. Something isn't quite right, almost like cars are weightless and their motion is primarily governed by clever calculations from the tire model end of things, without appropriate kinetics on the chassis and weight of the car by itself. The extraordinarily wacky results of some crashes in this game appear to corroborate that notion; same with the most-unreasonably-twitchy cars out of the list.

If there's any truth in my hunch, it's incredible how good the handling is in spite of that. I also harbor a suspicion that the game is ultimately still based on an extensively redeveloped form of the ancient ISI engine, which is also impressive.
Yeah something is missing I feel, maybe inertia and momentum are not simulated enough for each car's mass. Maybe missing sound effects for that too.
Edit: also many cars actually don't power oversteer enough i think. Try an f40 with no aids, its a 2700lbs car with 500hp from 1980s, im pretty sure it should overpower its rear tires easily in the lower gears even if they are oversized.
I had a mustang from that time with same weight but just 225hp, and i could spin the tires a little when power shifting from 1st to 2nd and even from 2nd to 3rd a little.

Especially the turbo on this car is knowned to be vicious. But in the game it barely power oversteers. Now i did have good torque on mine and skinnier 225 good quality sport tires, but still..
And it does sound pretty crappy lol, like most ferraris in this.
Just checked the f40 specs, it did have massive 335 rear tires rated zr , so much better rear grip, oh well i dont know..
 
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You best get use to it, a few new games now use SMS engine because how good it is.
So you best hope that this new games tweak a few things so the cars feel to your liking.

Just incase you didn't notice your FOV settings affects how the FFB feels & how the car drives.
I can confirm this, don't touch your steering sensitivity, damping or speed sensitivity, adjust your seat position to exactly the same spot after you've adjusted the fov & feel the difference in control stiffness/weight from say fov 70 (default) to fov 90.

The car will feel a lot more twitchy at 70 compared to 90, without touching any controller settings.

Remember to adjust your seat to exactly the same spot.
 
You best get use to it, a few new games now use SMS engine because how good it is.
So you best hope that this new games tweak a few things so the cars feel to your liking.

Just incase you didn't notice your FOV settings affects how the FFB feels & how the car drives.
I see, which games?
Edit: i know codemasters bought the devs.
 
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Well after retrying it more i have to say it is pretty damn great, especially with all the included features. Just wish i had a ps4 pro if the image is cleaner and shadows smoother etc.

The sounds are good in general but you have to admit the engine sounds could be alot more natural and less digital sounding in most cars. Some do sound pretty good though. And the skidding sounds could be less like a constant drone.
Well looks like I'm back on with pc2 now. :lol:

Edit: i had a bad last memory of it, partly i think from testing with authentic aids on but with all turned off. But some cars like the modern ftype etc have SC which stays on still seems with those settings. And it seemed so exaggerated, like as soon as you let go of the throttle and brake the car would straigthen itself out like magic.
Well im back with all off and its much better.
Also it does look much better cleaner smoother in dark hours with lights of the cars and track and not so much shadows from the sun.
 
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Thats it Just got fed up with unrealistic steering and said id had enough. And uninstslled . will have no more contact with this game.
You're just more than likely inexperienced at sim racing games.
And probably with very little patience.
 
I find the overcast weather setting gives the most natural look, but then I live in England.

It's rumoured that if you look up at the sky you'll see a big ball of fire shining bright.

Can't say I've ever seen it myself :)
Lol, i never been there but that's the reputation of the weather there hehe.

Well i mean it looks great as well with the sun, the sunlight itself is great, like just facing you in front of the track etc, just all the shadows when its sideways are too much on the std ps4 maybe and looks messy.
 
Lol, i never been there but that's the reputation of the weather there hehe.

Well i mean it looks great as well with the sun, the sunlight itself is great, like just facing you in front of the track etc, just all the shadows when its sideways are too much on the std ps4 maybe and looks messy.
Yes and PS4 Pro doesn't really fix this much as well, just less stuttering. It is when you get on PC with Super Sampling AA and Post AA where all the jagged shadows get sorted out. It looks a lot better.
 

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