Ferraripro - major framerate problems and ps2 graphics

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Hi Ferrripro thanks for reading this post!

I used to run the game in native FullHD (my TV) prior to patch v.2. After updating to the new patch I had to downgrade my resolution to 720p simply because the graphics were looking ps2 graphics!

The thing is that at 720p it's nowhere near PS3 standards too plus the thing I'm experiencing Major I mean Major frame-rate problems! I can't get in or out of a corner in any circuit without seeing frame-rate being less than 10x.

Maybe because I'm running at 720p the game is unplayable due to frame-rate issues but running at 1080p the game is unplayable anyway due to horrible graphics! Just wanted to let you know!

Thanks,
Zedux

p.s. stoped the game to post this and the game is back to it's original case I don't know for how long!!! I love this game am very competitive in it but:indiff:

p.s.2 - this it to Feraripro so don't need to come with those attacks you guys know who I'm talking about!
 
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Zedux, very few games on the ps3 run at a native 1080p and I highly doubt that Ferrari Challenge ever did. I don't even think it ran at 720p prepatch v2. So saying 720p is no where near ps3 standards is wrong. It is likely that the patch changes the algorithm they are using to scale, making it less processor intensive but also degrading the graphics.
 
I don't know what framerate problems are being referred to, I haven't seen them - but there's a universal acceptance that the graphical quality has taken a significant hit with patch V2. If you compare the original screenshots of this game to the visuals you actually see now ... there's no comparison.

My absolute #1 wish is that they return the graphics to their former state. It's obvious that the game's never going to run at 60fps, so there's no point in trying to achieve it by ruining the graphics.

By the way, for people talking about slowdowns... Was this with the in-car view? I use the bonnet view, so maybe I was never affected.

Ferraripro - just have a read of all the fan forums. Other than the online problem, it's the graphics that have caused the greatest outcry. The AI is noticeably better.
 
Zedux
p.s.2 - this it to Feraripro so don't need to come with those attacks you guys know who I'm talking about!
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No one has made any attacks on you at all. Other members have disagreed with your comments and opinion (as I do on the frame rate issue), and they have said as much. Something they are perfectly entitled to do.

You on the other hand have been verbally abusive and threatening to at least one member.

Given that I would suggest that its you that needs to take care with attacks, and leave the moderation to the staff.

To make myself 100% clear, repeat anything like your last action and you will be gone.


Scaff
 
yeah i did prefer the 1080p graphics before the patch. i've never had an issue with the frame rate and i've always ran incar view. There was the odd hiccup from time to time but before the V2 patch, i thought the graphics/frame rate was at a nice balance.

Other than that, i think the patch has had improvements all round and i love it!
 
Zedux
The thing is that at 720p it's nowhere near PS3 standards too plus the thing I'm experiencing Major I mean Major frame-rate problems! I can't get in or out of a corner in any circuit without seeing frame-rate being less than 10x.
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I run it at 1080p and the framerate is actually pretty stable. Graphics leave to be desired indeed, but at least the racing physics are very solid with this game. I'll give it a go on 720P as well to see if it runs stable on my PS3 or not. :)

Zedux
p.s.2 - this it to Feraripro so don't need to come with those attacks you guys know who I'm talking about!
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Better to send it via PM if you want to keep it private. :) Anyone can respond to a forum thread.
 
I would agree with PM to discuss concerns about game issues or forum issues. To call someone out and to be so abusive about it...

PM him next time. No need to call him out in public.

Cheers,
Host_Killer
 
I must agree with zedux, after installing patch graphic are just horrible, almost unplayable :-( and with more frame drops than before. I tried switching down to 720p, but the problem is the same :-(.
 
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I must agree with zedux, after installing patch graphic are just horrible, almost unplayable :-( and with more frame drops than before. I tried switching down to 720p, but the problem is the same :-(.
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I certainly don't agree with the graphics got worse, but isn't it weird that i found the graphics literally PS2 and the game unplayable BEFORE v2 ?
Just saying, it's weird.
 
I'm officialy confused by all these contradicting reports. I decided not to play FC until patch V3 is released.

ferraripro: We all apreciate you coming here and informing us, when you have good news and also when you have bad news. So, I want to tell you this: Don't release V3 until you are absolutely sure it solves - finally - the major problems we still have. I prefer to wait two weeks, if needed, than only one and get dissapointed again.

I'll wait :)
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
What he said!

I work for a Legal Publishing Co. and I work with CEO's, CIO's, & CFO's from many different Industries, so I have an idea of the corporate culture that exist at Software Co. I want to THANK YOU for communicating with the community and keeping your promise to continually improve the game. Other game developer's should take note (ala Infinity Ward & fourzerotwo).

Cheers,
Host_Killer
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After major testing on all tracks with many car models I can say that graphics are NOTICABLY BETTER after the V2 patch, at least as my telly is concerned.

I'm running the PS3 on Full Range RGB setting (video options), through HDMI cable to HD Ready (not Full HD) 720p native plasma set - always froom in-car cam.

And it looks stunning, picture is sharper and crispier while slowdowns are very rare when compared with before. However, I have to notice that evil "black stain" - in front of the car on paticular tracks when driving from 1st POW - is still there for few first turns.
 
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I have posted this elsewhere but I think you guys might be interested in this too:

I've spent A LOT of time to take the following comparison photos using a tripod and high quality digital camera because there is a lot of speculation out there on the net about how much worse patch 2.00 looks compared to the unpatched game.

IMHO, the new 1080p looks just like 720p (no better or worse) whereas prior to the patch you could see a little improvement in clarity when running at 1080p. Look carefully at the armco guard rails, the wire fencing, the rear bumper (fender for our American readers), the black rear window framing etc.

For those wondering, these are taken from a Sony Bravia 40" LCD 1080p TV. The game was forced into 720p or 1080p respectively by changing the settings from the PS3 display settings menu, that is to say I didn't just force my television into these modes and then take the photos (cos that would be stupid).

You will notice where the shots are taken there is a slight difference in track position between the No Patch and Patch 2.00 screenshots. I tried achieve the same position each time by starting a time trial (at Mugello) with the brakes 100% on and the wheel central. All aids were off. This actually worked surprisingly well and withing the same version I stopped in practically identical positions each time. However, the patch must have changed the brake effectiveness (or perhaps the time trial start speed?) because it definately pulled up quicker in the 2.00 patch version. This was completely repeatable fyi.

For clarity, 'no patch' refers to the out of the box Australian (PAL) 1.00 version. Once I had upgraded to 2.00 I wasn't able to get back to 1.10.

Sorry for the 56k'ers out there, but in order to keep these useful I haven't reduced quality much at all.





I wish I had an HD capture device, but I don't... so these photos will have to do. I think they serve to demonstrate a point none-the-less.

Having said all that... I would much prefer they reverse the changes to the graphics/resolution. I didn't have a problem with it before and although it wasn't as smooth as some other titles it was still very driveable. For those people who don't like the frame rate at 1080p there is always the option to run it at 720p (and effectively simulate what patch 2.00 is forcing on us).
 
Fantastic work Jesse, that's proof - if proof were needed - that 1080p has been sacrificed. I think I speak for all of us when I say we want it back!
 
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I certainly don't agree with the graphics got worse, but isn't it weird that i found the graphics literally PS2 and the game unplayable BEFORE v2 ?
Just saying, it's weird.
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I think it has something to do with different resolution then. 💡

ferraripro
Hi,
The original look in 1080, will be restored with the next patch. We tried some optimizations and obviously they didn't work as we had hoped.
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Just wanted to buy FC, but now i'm confused. Have to wait for next patch then i guess?
 
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Man... I am so CONFUSED... I've looked at the pictures posted (Thanks JesseDeya) and I do not see a "noticeable" difference in the pictures... I am old (41) so you must forgive my eyes...

What surprises me, I haven't see as many posting about the rest of the V2 Patch. I checked the News Forum on this website and there have been a significant amount of change implemented in this patch. I understand all the points concerning graphics. After playing Grand Turismo 5 Prologue, it's been extremely difficult for me to play F1 Championship Edition, because of the difference in graphics. I remember when I bought my PS3 (just for Formula 1 Championship Edition). At the time, my buddy and I were racing on Formula 1 Challenge 99-02 (modded). Once I played F1 CE, I couldn't go back to F1C 99-02.

Lets set aside the graphical issues for now... I think (to use a political term) they've been vetted enough.

Please lets talk about some of the other enhancements made to this game, so we can make the V3 patch that much stronger.

Cheers,
Host_Killer
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Thanks for posting those JesseDaya, but I struggle to see any difference between the to stages of update. Also, am I the only one who doesn't experience any frame rate issues? I have always raced in 1080p and never had any. I've just always noiced that the cars look superb in the showroom section, almost GT5P levels, but they and the circuits become very changeable (but mostly pretty bad) graphics wise.
 
Wow.. I just got this game today...and after seeing the latest patch and comparison..not bad at all. I mean patches fix this things. I am glad we have somebody here on the inside as well to let us know that you guys are working on it. :P I have so many questions but I know you aren't allowed to answer them..lol. Anyways..will be taking for a spin on my new G25 and new cockpit, still unfinished but it looks so-so.
 

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