First impressions

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Igano
He does not need to get the recommended PC to play good enough. My CPU is an Athlon II x3 with a good gpu and I play MAX settings @1080p. The only time I lose fps is when over 14 cars are on track.
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How expensive would your setup be on a 'straight out of the box' pc?
 
Igano
He does not need to get the recommended PC to play good enough. My CPU is an Athlon II x3 with a good gpu and I play MAX settings @1080p. The only time I lose fps is when over 14 cars are on track.
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No, of course he doesn't. That's why I put both sets of requirements. =)
 
180 around for a good gpu, 150-180 for a medium amd cpu with a motherboard, 80 for a nice power supply, 70 for 8 gb of ram and 55 for a WD 1tb, add 30-40 for a good case. You will need 500 to 600 euro MAX and this pc will be better than what I have now.
 
Never go pre-assembled. The best advice you can have is before you get parts for your PC go to a benchmark database, there you can find the best performance per value which is the key to building a strong yet cheap PC. For example there are gpu with small price and much better performance than some at 50% more cost.

A site I use is:

http://www.passmark.com/
"benchmark tab"
 
Totally agree. It's really not even hard to build a PC anymore. The only catch is the software.
 
Gunstar
600euro is about 800US, so my estimates are still pretty valid!
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Unfortunately the conversion difference is "lost in translation".... for example XB1 is 500$ in USA and 500euro in Europe.. i really hate this thing, EU needs to manhandle all these companies who don't respect the balance difference.
 
Igano
Unfortunately the conversion difference is "lost in translation".... for example XB1 is 500$ in USA and 500euro in Europe.. i really hate this thing, EU needs to manhandle all these companies who don't respect the balance difference.
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Yeah but you know how that's going to end up... they won't make your stuff cheaper, they will make ours more expensive! Big business wins again! :lol:
 
MonSpaNur
I bought this one last week, that`s EU320/330 i think (needs Windows installation).
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Not a bad choice, the PSU is very low imo. A 500w PSU will overwork to cover this system and live a short life. I had the same thing happen to me so I got a 850w after.
 
Incidently I am running the recommended PC. When hotlapping I get 120-140fps at 1080p, some AA, medium shadows and dialed down reflections (slow refreshing).
When in a race it can get down to 40fps with 12 cars, but that is something they are working on now. The A.I. is very power consuming at the moment. I hope they optimize it.
If I was to buy a new PC now I would go for a motherboard that supports a i7 so I can upgrade later.
 
Not all PSUs are made equal. A good quality 500-550W PSU is perfectly acceptable for a simple desktop consisting of a quad core CPU, SSD, 8-16GB RAM, Geforce 660/760, since the total peak power consumption of this kind of combination will be no more than 250-300W (CPU 65-90W, GPU 130-170W, rest a few watts here and there), idle power consumption of a modern desktop is no more than 30-40W. This is all well within the limits of a good 500-550W PSU. A bad PSU, on the other hand, might have limited capacity on some of the rails or generally be less efficient. I recommend at least looking at the 80-Plus classification and understanding what the different white/bronze/silver/gold/platinum PSUs are capable of achieving.

The AI right now seems to be as much CPU as GPU bound. A mainstream quad core (i5) Haswell CPU is a sensible choice for that reason. 8-16GB RAM is advised (8 is enough for now, but a CPU will easily last 5-6 years and you will want to move up to 16GB at some point during that period, so get 8GB in 2 DIMMs leaving room for 2 to be added later). GPU sweet spot right now is Nvidia GTX660-660Ti-760 range of cards.

I bought myself a GTX760 to go with my 4 year old Core i7 / 8GB machine. Getting 120-140fps hotlapping at 1080p with max shadows, max world detail, low reflections (3 faces), 4x AF, 4x AA, 2x sparse grid AA. This drops to 60-70fps at the back of a 12-15 car grid, 100fps when racing the AI later in the race when they are spread out.
 
My PSU was not oem and worked perfectly until I installed a Radeon 7870 which requires two pci-e power connectors. After a month or two the psu started dieing on me slowly.
 
MonSpaNur
I bought this one last week, that`s EU320/330 i think (needs Windows installation).
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Otherwise nice, but hopefully you noticed/knew, that it doesn't have a proper GPU. The processor itself has one, but thats not going to cut it by itself for gaming. Still it's not a bad price tbh.

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@skazz , Good to hear about the 760. Was thinking of going with that in nearish future. Currently on GTX560, still runs AC pretty nicely. (not all maxxed ofcourse)
 
Igano
Not a bad choice, the PSU is very low imo. A 500w PSU will overwork to cover this system and live a short life. I had the same thing happen to me so I got a 850w after.
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It's nowhere near too low.
His system draws <400w at load, less than that probably.
The problem isn't the PSU being 500w, it looks like a no name psu which will play a bigger role.
Pointless to have a 850w PSU on a system that CAN'T draw even half that.
 
eSZee
It's nowhere near too low.
His system draws <400w at load, less than that probably.
The problem isn't the PSU being 500w, it looks like a no name psu which will play a bigger role.
Pointless to have a 850w PSU on a system that CAN'T draw even half that.
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It will be working on a bigger load% than the 850, which in the long run it will have impact on the PSU. Not that it won't be able to support it, it will just "grow old" faster.
 
Igano
It will be working on a bigger load% than the 850, which in the long run it will have impact on the PSU. Not that it won't be able to support it, it will just "grow old" faster.
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I don't agree.
The 850w will never be anywhere near its optimum efficiency range while the 500 would be.
Inefficient = heat.
 
In all the electrical devices so far I knew it was, more work = more heat. Having less to work with = working easier. The reason is the PSU gives out the electric power that is needed at demand.

Nevertheless there are always some very attractive choices where you can get the better model with only a few dollars/euros more. In the long run you will benefit from that. e.g. my psu was 500 and I run on the limit of it when I upgraded my gpu (it needed 2x pci-e power connectors instead of 1 from my previous gpu). The psu worked on the limit and died very shortly (2-3 months ;) ). If I had bought a 650 now instead of the 850 I got, just because it was good enough, in 2-3 years at my next cpu/gpu upgrade it would be highly possible I would max or outgrow the 650. Also the price difference was like 10-15 euro.

Well that's been my policy, forever since GPUs became power demanding :)
 
Oh my god, I am exhausted! Just had a 3 hours straight session :D.

This game is amazing and with my recent settings I feel almost no dead zone on my G27!

Some cool things:

- Try BMW Z4 drift version its a very stable drift car ideal for fast corners! Really sweet car. Anyone know how to switch from paddles to shifter? Paddles don't help much when you are doing very slow corners :(

- Ferrari 599 XX EVO is the devil!!!

- Ferrari Italia Stage 3 is a really nice drift car on slicks!

- Valelunga Club is an excellent benchmark track exactly like I used to do on Tsukuba@GT5. It's short and you can make a good lap fast, which is very useful to compare lap capabilities of each car.

- Monza 66 is so addicting.. don't try it unless you have plenty of free time ahead!

- Have I forgot to mention how devilish 599 XX EVO is? Especially on Monza 66 where you are hanging for dear life at the big straights with 330 ? :D

- Photo mode looks quite promising.

Can't wait for 0.7 this week ;)
 
Igano
In all the electrical devices so far I knew it was, more work = more heat. Having less to work with = working easier. The reason is the PSU gives out the electric power that is needed at demand.
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If something is designed to be most efficient at 80-90% and the demand on it never comes close to 50% power, it will be inefficient.
Are cars most efficient at idle or near peak TQ numbers? I know it's not electronics but it's along the same lines.
 
eSZee
If something is designed to be most efficient at 80-90% and the demand on it never comes close to 50% power, it will be inefficient.
Are cars most efficient at idle or near peak TQ numbers? I know it's not electronics but it's along the same lines.
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Cars if are been driven too slowly all the time is not a good thing at all since a layer of black fumes settle on the combustion chamber. But for electronics as far as I know there is no problem at all, on the contrary it's better for a longer life.
 
I don't see a problem with choosing a higher output PSU. I gives a little headroom if you want to upgrade the other components in the future.

For the recommended system the Thermaltake Power Supply Calculator http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power recommends a 750W PSU when using the following setup as an example:

CPU: i5-3570 Ivy bridge
CPU: Nvidia GTX 660
RAM: 2 sticks DDR3 SDRAM
1 IDE 7200 RPM HDD
1 DVD drive
1 additional PCI-e x1 card (for example sound card)
4 USB devices
1 80mm fan
2 120mm fans
Water Cooling Kit: Corsair Hydro H60

Recommended PSU wattage: 563W
Recommended PSU: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003WOL4VA/?tag=gtplanet-20

Just put in your own components and try for yourselves. :)

Edit: Sorry, made an error when selecting physical CPUs here. Only 1 should be selected.
So, the corrected result is:
Recommended PSU wattage: 366W
Recommended PSU: 430W
 
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Well i tried AC today, first my graphic cards doesnt support the directX 10.1 so i have to get used with blocky trees. Second, since i never buy a wheel, I have to use the keyboard....

I managed to lap a track in ACR using keyboard. In AC, i'm spinning around like a headless duck.
 
This is a simulator and I am not too sure how good it will be for keyboard play. Plus you miss out all the realism!
 
My first impressions,
Good looking, good driving, no interesting cars, no interesting tracks. Interested in seeing where it goes.
 
Are you kidding? Mugello, Imola, Vallelunga? All three are fantastic! Or were you being sacrastic? Because there are some pretty nice cars already in the developer preview.
 

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