First time drifting

[Jahodac]

Hey guys, I decided to try out drifting today.

I used my '00 Arta NSX and ended up getting around 8.7k points on tsukuba.

Is this a good score for a first time drifter?

What score should I aim for and does anyone have any car/tune recommendations?

Overall, drifting is a very pleasant experience and I would definitely recommend it to any gt5 player.

 

[fissionproject]

Well my first piece of advice would be to use a different car to drift with - but hell if you can drift with that then that's sick

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

There are already quite a few threads that may help you a lot instead of starting your own

 

[nk4e]

There are already quite a few threads that may help you a lot instead of starting your own

We hardly go off points. The points we go off is given by members to improve on the skills we have without "drift mode" and having fun with it.

 

[Hayden]

It is brilliant fun. I suggest doing this test.

(this works for every car and driver if practiced enough. Comfort hard tyres are recommended. It is IMO completely idiot proof & is yet to fail)
1. Make sure you are in manual mode, if not you are basically doing this
2. Rev to the top of the range and pull off the line, if you see smoke, hear tyre squeal and feel slip, go up a gear
3. repeat step two until you no longer see smoke off the line.
4. Shift into the top gear that allows wheel spin off the line, this is your low speed drift gear. It will allow for nice power delivery and slidingness...
5. Test your low speed drift gear, if you spin out the car is not getting the required power to maintain a slide and you will have to use a lower gear.
6. Now you know which gear to drift in head to Eiger Nordwand in drift mode* and the right to left hairpin turns.
7. Slow right down going into a corner and get in you low speed drift gear
8. Hit the power and turn sharply into the right hander, when you see smoke and feel slip, counter steer
9. Hold the throttle, if u see the car straightening up flick it back into the turn and counter steer again
10. Back off accelerator going into the left handed hairpin, hold the counter steer from before.
11. Apply power to kick the back out again, counter steer
12. Hold it, hold it, hold it.
13. Leave the corner releasing the accelerator to stop the slide.
14. Rinse and repeat until you can do it 3 times without crashing
15. Try other tracks, don't bother with the rest of Eiger, it really isn't worth the trouble.

Don't worry about points until you can link these corners. If you cant link corners, the point's just wont rock up for you
If you can't link these you either aren't trying hard enough, haven't practiced enough or your car isn't set up right.

My PB on Tsukuba is 23,000 but i know of people pulling off 30+K.

*Drift mode physics are the hardest and as such are the best to learn with IMO

 

[Hayden]

*Bumping to the top so everyone can see my idiot proof way to learn*

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

*Bumping to the top so everyone can see my idiot proof way to learn*

agreed

 

[Jesus]

*Bumping to the top so everyone can see my idiot proof way to learn*

Its still spamming though.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

5. Test your low speed drift gear, if you spin out the car is not getting the required power to maintain a slide and you will have to use a lower gear.

If you spin, the car is getting too much power, gearing up would solve this, not gearing down, that is if you're planning on using this weirld learning method.

The BEST way to learn is to basically try and drive normally with C/H tyres. Once the car slides use throttle control to try and keep it under control.

You will gradually begin to understand the physics and how you can initiate and control a drift to do whatever you want, whenever you want.

Chris.

 

[zedfonsie]

I am a big drift fan.

I bought over 60 cars to drift and i dumped most of them. Right now my cars i drift with is.
Supra rz
sprinter trueno gt-apex
subaru impreza wrc
bmw m5
mercedes sls
mercedes mclaren slr
cobra 427
nissan silvia s13 2.0 91'
ford focus wrc
mazda rx7 fc
These are my drift cars at the moment

 

[Foxiol]

I´m new in this cause i have almost done with all the game by now...and i started last week with the RX7 Amemia (blue) and is awesome...I found some setups here in the forum but i did not tried them cause i wanted to learn for myself and this car is amazing with little touches and with "only" 400 HP. I started in Tsukuba doing it in parts (i mean not all the track) and for the first time i got 4500...after 5 minutes 6500...after half an hour i touched little things in suspension and tires and i could feel a big difference and found a very comfortable setup for me and got 10300 and got the trophy. The feeling is amazing and i learn a lot in one hour and then i couldn´t stop. I didn´t know how to take corners and now i know how to and i feel like a pro haha. Then i called a friend to test the car and setup and he couldn´t drive it or keep it on the track. It was amazing. And one note for all is that setups are personal for everyone cause everyone has his own way to drive for do the same thing. it´s not the setup only.
Enjoy the ride and make some smoke people.

 

[blasian541]

Sooo drifting automatic is bad?

 

[nk4e]

Sooo drifting automatic is bad?

Yup, though you are more than welcome to try it.

 

[Hayden]

If you spin, the car is getting too much power, gearing up would solve this, not gearing down, that is if you're planning on using this weirld learning method.

The BEST way to learn is to basically try and drive normally with C/H tyres. Once the car slides use throttle control to try and keep it under control.

You will gradually begin to understand the physics and how you can initiate and control a drift to do whatever you want, whenever you want.

Chris.

I often noticed that while drifting in too high a gear, you can often lack the torque to pull you through... While your way is easy, people often like to gave step by step instructions. This is how I learnt, it's how I tune my cars and it's how I've fought many of my real life friends to GT5 drift.

I believe that you are a far better drifter then I am but in this case I hold my guns. This is the best step by step way i have seen to learn drifting in GT5.

 

[Sluffer]

Yup, though you are more than welcome to try it.

I'm useless at manual gears so I tend to stick with A/T at the mo, although I can't continuous drift etc...I can get some nice smaller single corner drifts on the go.

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

Its still spamming though.

Would you rather have people start pointless already addressed older threads or read ones already established?

 

[mytton]

Yup, though you are more than welcome to try it.

I've actually been doing everything in automatic and I'm able to pull off the same nice, long drifts and even link them. I don't find any issues with it but then again I wouldn't know what it could otherwise be like.

 

[nk4e]

I'm useless at manual gears so I tend to stick with A/T at the mo, although I can't continuous drift etc...I can get some nice smaller single corner drifts on the go.

The advantage of manual tranmission is that its possible to keep the power going. Aside from that, you can probably just down shift in automatic.

I've actually been doing everything in automatic and I'm able to pull off the same nice, long drifts and even link them. I don't find any issues with it but then again I wouldn't know what it could otherwise be like.

Try it, it may take a few sessions to get use to it offline but its good to know both.

 

[ZSPaulus]

For the guy drifting in Automatic; mad props to you son! I cant do it, and ive never seen or heard of anyone doing that; must have taken alot of practice..

For the guy with the step by step; i have no comment on the step by step as i havent tried it myself yet. But i found the drift mode physics to be alot easier to drift with, making it good for a first impression of what drifting is. But once you get even a bit better; please go online and experience how the drifiting is when GT5 doesnt drift for you.

But looking at the step by step very quickly; my slow speed drift gear would be 4th in my '99 Vantage; so beastly

 

[Hayden]

For the guy drifting in Automatic; mad props to you son! I cant do it, and ive never seen or heard of anyone doing that; must have taken alot of practice..

For the guy with the step by step; i have no comment on the step by step as i havent tried it myself yet. But i found the drift mode physics to be alot easier to drift with, making it good for a first impression of what drifting is. But once you get even a bit better; please go online and experience how the drifiting is when GT5 doesnt drift for you.

But looking at the step by step very quickly; my slow speed drift gear would be 4th in my '99 Vantage; so beastly

Props to the vantage, thats pretty monstrous...

I do not appreciate the bold stuff though. I do 90% of my drifting online and have a pretty good reputation around here (just search H2H drift tournament) in my experience, along with others i'm sure, drift mode is the most difficult. Online may take a couple corners to get going on but after that it is no harder then drift mode.

 

[ZSPaulus]

Do you use the wheel? i found that in the driftmode i dont really have to turn into the corner after letting the wheel slip into countersteer. But i like to drift with others and hate having to get used to a different feeling; so i just drift online; even if its just by myself.. (own lounge)

 

[euros only]

simple: learn to feather the gas and steering off you go now good luck

 

[TwinturboCH]

5. Test your low speed drift gear, if you spin out the car is not getting the required power to maintain a slide and you will have to use a lower gear.

Not really the case. If you spin, it is down to not countersteering fast enough. Spinning can be the result of too much OR too little power. Thispoint should read as 'if you spin, countersteer faster'.

8. Hit the power and turn sharply into the right hander, when you see smoke and feel slip, counter steer

You should be countersteering before you get smoke. Besides which, youa re trying to get people to run before they can walk.

13. Leave the corner releasing the accelerator to stop the slide.

Releasing the throttle is not the best way to learn. I always tell people (in real life and in game) to 'ride the slide' i.e. stay full throttle until the car speed catches up with the wheel speed and the wheels are no longer spinning.

The BEST way to learn is to basically try and drive normally with C/H tyres. Once the car slides use throttle control to try and keep it under control.

You will gradually begin to understand the physics and how you can initiate and control a drift to do whatever you want, whenever you want.

Chris.

This 👍 100%

The BEST way to learn is on Comfort hard tyres and start by doing fast laps round a track. Gradually build up your speed and start allowing the car to slide into oversteer. Learn how to hold and finish the slide. Once you have learned how to FINISH a drift you can then learn how to START a drift as early as possible. THere is no point trying to get mega entries going when you have no idea how to get out of the drift once you're in it.

I often noticed that while drifting in too high a gear, you can often lack the torque to pull you through...

It's nothing to do with not having the power. It's to do with the fact that, because the wheels aren't spinning up well, you don't end up lifting off the throttle until it's too late. What you are telling people is inherantly wrong.

I believe that you are a far better drifter then I am but in this case I hold my guns. This is the best step by step way i have seen to learn drifting in GT5.

Sorry, but Chris is correct.

I've actually been doing everything in automatic and I'm able to pull off the same nice, long drifts and even link them. I don't find any issues with it but then again I wouldn't know what it could otherwise be like.

You may well be able to drift in 'auto', and props to you for managing it LOL HOWEVER with way 'auto' works in GT5 you will NEVER be able to pull of the same stuff with auto that you can manage in manual.

 

[Hayden]

Good run down, TT. I'm feeling kinda dumb right about now. While this may not completely make sense, for those turns at eiger it works.

Not really the case. If you spin, it is down to not countersteering fast enough. Spinning can be the result of too much OR too little power. Thispoint should read as 'if you spin, countersteer faster'.

True, the elevation changes on Eiger are quiet forgiving to nearly everything IMO. The drop into the right hander is usually enough to flick the tail out.

You should be countersteering before you get smoke. Besides which, youa re trying to get people to run before they can walk.

I agree about the smoke but their is no other visual cues to people who cant "feel" the car. I don't think that this is teaching anybody to run. It is more of a tactic to learn to control the car through those corners easier. Once you have those corners, the rest comes naturally

Releasing the throttle is not the best way to learn. I always tell people (in real life and in game) to 'ride the slide' i.e. stay full throttle until the car speed catches up with the wheel speed and the wheels are no longer spinning.

As the curve is banked "riding the slide" can force you into the wall

This 👍 100%

The BEST way to learn is on Comfort hard tyres and start by doing fast laps round a track. Gradually build up your speed and start allowing the car to slide into oversteer. Learn how to hold and finish the slide. Once you have learned how to FINISH a drift you can then learn how to START a drift as early as possible. THere is no point trying to get mega entries going when you have no idea how to get out of the drift once you're in it.

I don't want people to do "mega entries" i told them to take it slow and accelerate to kick it out

It's nothing to do with not having the power. It's to do with the fact that, because the wheels aren't spinning up well, you don't end up lifting off the throttle until it's too late. What you are telling people is inherantly wrong.

Ok... I don't drift in real lie so don't really have a comeback to this, im assuming youre right 👍

Sorry, but Chris is correct.

You may well be able to drift in 'auto', and props to you for managing it LOL HOWEVER with way 'auto' works in GT5 you will NEVER be able to pull of the same stuff with auto that you can manage in manual.

Too right 👍