FIRST TUNE> CAR SUGGESTIONS?

[SDsnakebutt]

So anytime i have needed a tune i have been very grateful to be able to skim thru the tuning index and find one that suits me. I have from there tweaked and played around with the tune I'm using to get a feel for what settings have abc effects. I still don't feel ready to start my own tune from the bottom but i guess i won't learn if i don't try.

I have been pointed to many many guides from people on this forum and i think i have enough recourses to refer to if i get stuck.

SOOOO my question is… What would be a good first car or drivetrain to start with? Something simple but would require me to have to tweak multiple things to get it to my liking. I dunno if there is necessarly a correct answer for this but whats ur guys input? where should i start? Thank You everyone for all the info u have gave me.

 

[iainoflo85]

I'd start with FR.

FF is so confusing for me, add the ride height glitch and you'll be even more confused.

MR's require more time to understand - but I think if you can drive them then you know what to expect when tuning them.

AWD is also confusing - I never know what to do with the LSD and Torque distribution.

I would also suggest you start at the lower end of the PP scale also - no use trying to tune a Huayra before you've tuned a Miata. So why not start there. 400PP or 450PP is good for starters.

 

[SDsnakebutt]

I totally agree with starting at a lower pp level. Thx you for your input with the drivetrain. Do you think a miata would be a good place to start? I'm completely open to any car.

 

[iainoflo85]

I totally agree with starting at a lower pp level. Thx you for your input with the drivetrain. Do you think a miata would be a good place to start? I'm completely open to any car.

Yeah, Miata's are easy cars to drive, cheap and a good place to start.

But if you don't like Miata's then you could try something else. I don't think you could go much wrong with an 86/FR-S/BRZ.

 

[Ronald6]

A miata would be a great car to start to learn to tune on. It adapts well to many driving styles.

I suggest selecting a miata from one of the slower classes from the recent FITT Miata event. Choose one, tune it on the appropriate track and then compare it to the other tunes posted. Looking at all the different tunes with many reviewes to help you understand them will help you know what you did right.

 

[DolHaus]

I'd recommend a Miata/gt86/BRZ as well, they're really nice cars to learn with because they respond to tuning in a fairly noticeable way which is what you want for learning. As has been mentioned above, the FITT miata contest is full of useful information and ideas. Theres also plenty of guides that tell you what bits do what and these are always worth a read.
Avoid MRs until you've got to grips with things, they can be a little bit sensitive and only seem to like to be set up in a particular fashion, you'll spend a lot more time making it worse than making it better until you find the correct balance, can be quite discouraging if you're not entirely sure what you're doing.

@iainoflo85 The trick with 4wd LSDs is to treat the front/rear diff as separate cars, set the front diff like an FF car and the rear like an FR

 

[MrGrado]

430 Scuderia.

 

[shaunm80]

I would suggest either Honda S2000 at 450PP or Lotus Elise '11 at 450PP. I found these cars give a lot of feedback when tuning.

 

[SDsnakebutt]

@Ronald6-

Choose one, tune it on the appropriate track and then compare it to the other tunes posted

Thank you, do you have a specific track recommendation for a first tune? I'm thinking one that has a lil bit of everything..

@DolHaus- Avoid MRs until you've got to grips with things, they can be a little bit sensitive and only seem to like to be set up in a particular fashion

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Thank you, good info and i will def take note of that

@MrGrado -

430 Scuderia.

Ha believe me i can't wait to be able to tune the higher end cars. The Scuderia is one at the top of my list. Maybe i will take the dive after a lower pp level car. Thank you

@shaunm80- I would suggest either Honda S2000 at 450PP or Lotus Elise '11 at 450PP. I found these cars give a lot of feedback when tuning.

Thank you. Ya that Lotus is one of my favorite cars. If I'm thinking correctly i believe thats the one from the seasonals. You are totally right about it giving feedback with tuning. i tried multiple tunes to lower my time on the super lap and there was always noticeable differences with each tune.

 

[Ronald6]

With the Miata it would be best to visit the FITT Miata shootout thread and tune the car for the track thats listed in the competition. That way when you're comparing your car to the posted tunes the comparisons will be valid.

If you don't care to compare with other tunes then I would ignore the shootout and test on: Tsukuba for a base tune, then move on to Trial Mountain and then Nurburgring. If your car can handle all three tracks well then you have an excellent tune.

 

[DolHaus]

I'd suggest the original trinity for test tracks - Trial Mountain, Deep Forrest and Grand Valley Speedway
If it can handle those three without throwing up any weird characteristics then it will be ok on every other circuit in the game.
Remember not to specialise too much for one track because it may suffer on others

 

[shaunm80]

I'd suggest the original trinity for test tracks - Trial Mountain, Deep Forrest and Grand Valley Speedway
If it can handle those three without throwing up any weird characteristics then it will be ok on every other circuit in the game.
Remember not to specialise too much for one track because it may suffer on others

I have started to use Apricot Hill as my 1st track, That has long corners, hair pins, a mini cork screw at the end. That tests about 75% of the car aspects straight away. If its a GT3 car or race car I'm tuning, I tend to use Spa or Silverstone circuit. The old haunts are still the best though for general final testing, Trial Mountain takes me back to GT5 Tuning. I wasted countless hours on that track.

 

[SDsnakebutt]

@Ronald6
@DolHaus
@shaunm80
Thank you for the great information. I will jump around each of those tracks to see if my tune can handle the differences each one brings. Apperciate all ur help you guys. hopefully one day i can make a tune that one of you can make use of. if i have any questions i will let u guys know so u can guide me. Thanks again.