Ford owns...
- Thread starter Shannon
- 30 comments
- 1,278 views
- 687
sure did but my car will always be a :jaguar: not a :ford:
- 10,081
- WFG9
As far as I know, Ford owns part of Mazda, but not all.
- 966
Yup, I knew. Ford's stake in Mazda is around 33%, I think, but it's enough to give it controlling interest.
As far as GM is concerned, besides its own brands (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Pontiac, Saturn, and Oldsmobile), It owns Saab, Holden, Opel, and Vauxhall. Other non-auto companies include Hughes Electronics (DIRECTV -- which it is selling), Allison Transmission (heavy-duty automatic transmissions), and GM Locomotive (locomotives, diesel engines). GM also has a 49% stake in Isuzu Motors and 20% stakes in Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru), Suzuki Motor, and Fiat Auto (Alfa Romeo, Lancia). It has agreed to take a 67% stake in South Korea's Daewoo Motor.
(Much of that is from Hoover's)
As far as GM is concerned, besides its own brands (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Pontiac, Saturn, and Oldsmobile), It owns Saab, Holden, Opel, and Vauxhall. Other non-auto companies include Hughes Electronics (DIRECTV -- which it is selling), Allison Transmission (heavy-duty automatic transmissions), and GM Locomotive (locomotives, diesel engines). GM also has a 49% stake in Isuzu Motors and 20% stakes in Fuji Heavy Industries (Subaru), Suzuki Motor, and Fiat Auto (Alfa Romeo, Lancia). It has agreed to take a 67% stake in South Korea's Daewoo Motor.
(Much of that is from Hoover's)
- 966
And, for some more who owns what info:
VW owns AUDI, Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce and Bentley. Other makes include SEAT (family cars, Spain) and SKODA (family cars, the Czech Republic). It also holds a 34% stake in Swedish truck maker Scania. VW's other interests include consumer financing and Europcar International (car rental). The German state of Lower Saxony controls about 19% of VW.
And, of course, Dodge's parent company is probably more German than American (taken directly from Hoover's):
DaimlerChrysler, the world's #3 carmaker in sales (behind General Motors and Ford). Formed by the $37 billion acquisition of Chrysler by Germany's Daimler-Benz in 1998, the company makes about 4.7 million vehicles a year. Chrysler's brands include Dodge, Eagle, Jeep, and Plymouth vehicles; the Mercedes brand is limited to luxury sedans, commercial vehicles, and SUVs. Also, DaimlerChrysler's Freightliner unit is the US's #1 heavy truck maker. The carmaker, which has announced that it will cut 26,000 jobs over three years at its troubled US-based Chrysler division, has a 10% stake in Hyundai Motor and a 37% stake in Mitsubishi Motors.
But all this consolidation has some holdouts (good, I think). Honda says other carmakers can merge all they want, it's staying independent. Toyota's also independent, but I haven't heard any statements that it does or does not want to stay that way.
BMW sold Land Rover to Ford (but kept the Mini brand) and dumped Rover Cars for $15. Really. Anyway, the family that owns a lot of BMW doesn't seem too hot on having the company taken over.
VW owns AUDI, Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce and Bentley. Other makes include SEAT (family cars, Spain) and SKODA (family cars, the Czech Republic). It also holds a 34% stake in Swedish truck maker Scania. VW's other interests include consumer financing and Europcar International (car rental). The German state of Lower Saxony controls about 19% of VW.
And, of course, Dodge's parent company is probably more German than American (taken directly from Hoover's):
DaimlerChrysler, the world's #3 carmaker in sales (behind General Motors and Ford). Formed by the $37 billion acquisition of Chrysler by Germany's Daimler-Benz in 1998, the company makes about 4.7 million vehicles a year. Chrysler's brands include Dodge, Eagle, Jeep, and Plymouth vehicles; the Mercedes brand is limited to luxury sedans, commercial vehicles, and SUVs. Also, DaimlerChrysler's Freightliner unit is the US's #1 heavy truck maker. The carmaker, which has announced that it will cut 26,000 jobs over three years at its troubled US-based Chrysler division, has a 10% stake in Hyundai Motor and a 37% stake in Mitsubishi Motors.
But all this consolidation has some holdouts (good, I think). Honda says other carmakers can merge all they want, it's staying independent. Toyota's also independent, but I haven't heard any statements that it does or does not want to stay that way.
BMW sold Land Rover to Ford (but kept the Mini brand) and dumped Rover Cars for $15. Really. Anyway, the family that owns a lot of BMW doesn't seem too hot on having the company taken over.
- 687
sorry to inform you but Rolls Royce and Bentley are not owned by VW. Rolls Royce is Owned BMW an Bentley is now owned by VW which means when the new models come out it will be the first time in years that they will not be different badge models of each other but 2 very different cars. and Bentley will now be going back to build perforamce car like it did in the 30's
- 687
also at the moment :gm: is in the middle of buying:daewoo:
- 966
Jag Man: from the Rolls Website, history: (http://www.rolls-royce.com/history/brief/default.htm)
1998: Rolls-Royce Motor Cars was sold by Vickers to Volkswagen, although BMW hold the rights to the name and the marque for use on Rolls-Royce cars, having acquired the rights from Rolls-Royce plc for £40m in 1998. BMW will take over responsibility for Rolls-Royce cars from the beginning of 2003.
1998: Rolls-Royce Motor Cars was sold by Vickers to Volkswagen, although BMW hold the rights to the name and the marque for use on Rolls-Royce cars, having acquired the rights from Rolls-Royce plc for £40m in 1998. BMW will take over responsibility for Rolls-Royce cars from the beginning of 2003.
- 687
I knew there was something about a change ownership coming but the point is
1. Rolls Royce and Bentley will have 2 differnt owners
2. there will not be a Rolls Royce made by Volkswagen
and thirdly I dont care who owns who as long as they continue to make the cars we expect from that company which sadly is not happening with Jaguar now that Ford own it The S and X type are examples of that. And who wants to see something like a 3 door hatchback with a lamborghini badge on it or the same with a Rolls Royce silver lady on something like a Volgswagen golf
1. Rolls Royce and Bentley will have 2 differnt owners
2. there will not be a Rolls Royce made by Volkswagen
and thirdly I dont care who owns who as long as they continue to make the cars we expect from that company which sadly is not happening with Jaguar now that Ford own it The S and X type are examples of that. And who wants to see something like a 3 door hatchback with a lamborghini badge on it or the same with a Rolls Royce silver lady on something like a Volgswagen golf
- 966
It gets even more complicated. I remembered from much earlier research that VW was rumored to be very interested in acquiring BMW, and searched for some stuff. I found speculation on that and a rumor of a possible Mini Bentley swap. I'm not familiar with this news source, so I don't know if it's reliable. But the story sounds generally plausible.
(I suspect that given Ford's current problems, though, making another big acquisition might not be easy. And whether FOrd's new management is as interested in gobbling up companies after Nasser [was that his name?] got the boot).
(from: http://www.news24.co.za/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_944013,00.html)
Germans ponder new Mini swap
The possibility of Mini being transferred from BMW to VW in exchange for Bentley has been discussed at boardroom level between the two German manufacturers, prompting speculation of a deal that could see the two British marques swapped.
Such a move would result in VW having ownership of the world's two most famous small car brands in the Mini and the Beetle, while Bentley would be reunited with Rolls-Royce.
It could also be a prelude to a wider-ranging alliance between the two companies that European motor industry experts are predicting as a defence against a possible takeover of BMW by Ford.
(I suspect that given Ford's current problems, though, making another big acquisition might not be easy. And whether FOrd's new management is as interested in gobbling up companies after Nasser [was that his name?] got the boot).
(from: http://www.news24.co.za/News24/Wheels24/News/0,3999,2-15-47_944013,00.html)
Germans ponder new Mini swap
The possibility of Mini being transferred from BMW to VW in exchange for Bentley has been discussed at boardroom level between the two German manufacturers, prompting speculation of a deal that could see the two British marques swapped.
Such a move would result in VW having ownership of the world's two most famous small car brands in the Mini and the Beetle, while Bentley would be reunited with Rolls-Royce.
It could also be a prelude to a wider-ranging alliance between the two companies that European motor industry experts are predicting as a defence against a possible takeover of BMW by Ford.
- 10,081
- WFG9
the s type is a sin of design near that of the 300m
latest car and driver has an s type on the cover.
i just realized the s types grille reminds me of the edsell
latest car and driver has an s type on the cover.
i just realized the s types grille reminds me of the edsell
- 10,081
- WFG9
and the x type would look better if they'd kept the headlight dimensions of the beautiful xjs model for the car
Unless you own an X-Type, in which case it's a Ford, or an S-Type, which would be a Lincoln. :-/ Never been a fan of Ford, and after what they've done to Jaguar, even less so.
OTOH, I'm not sure what to make of VW/Audi AG's mix-and-matching of parts to make different cars. Granted, the quality level of all their products is good, but when there's not much to differentiate a Passat from an A4, it makes me wonder. Their "Bentley GT" sounds promising, shifting back to their "sporting roots", but I can't help thinking it would be some amalgam of Audi's 6.0L W12, Porsche's StepTronic, and miscellaneous Bentley & VW components, all boiled down to a price point -- something no Bentley owner has ever bought.
Bugatti went out of production, but has been mulling around with various concepts at shows over the past few years. The Veyron W16 will most likely make it to production. Whether it or the Koenigsegg CC will be the fastest production car remains to be seen, but both should beat the McLaren F1.
- 10,081
- WFG9
amg does.
does gm?
does gm?
- 10,081
- WFG9
The companies GM owns all or part of:
Buick
Cadillac
EV1
GMC
GM Network-Fiat
GM Network-Fuji/Subaru
GM Network-Isuzu
GM Netork-Suzuki
Holden
HUMMER
Oldsmobile
Opel
Pontiac
Saab
Saturn
Vauxhall
Buick
Cadillac
EV1
GMC
GM Network-Fiat
GM Network-Fuji/Subaru
GM Network-Isuzu
GM Netork-Suzuki
Holden
HUMMER
Oldsmobile
Opel
Pontiac
Saab
Saturn
Vauxhall
Unless something's happened in the past few days, no, GM has no official affiliation with AMG or Mercedes (Chrysler/Daimler-Benz). Mercedes owns AMG outright; has for a few years now. The proliferation of AMG'd vehicles is rather nice, IMO, but I would still like to see the proliferation of 6-speed manual transmissions in those AMG Benz's.
- 196
I'm surprised nobody has mentioned GM's small portion of Subaru that they own...
The dead giveaway is in all the promotional articles on the Lutz/Solstice: "The steering rack is from the Impreza, thanks to the technology-sharing agreement ..." If I were heading GM, I'd look to grab more from Subaru than just the steering rack (which is good to begin with). That 3.0L H6 is just itching to have twin turbos stitched onto it. Since the Camaro/Firebird is on the way out, toss that engine combined with RWD into a smaller, Mustang-sized coupe (i.e., the Solstice) and you could have a real M3/Tuscan/911 competitor.
Or maybe I could just be falling asleep at the wheel again....
MY own personal prediction is Ford's demise in no more than five years. Jac Nasser, their treasurer, and their director of investor relations have all resigned.
Meanwhile, they just cut the Mercury Villager and Nissan Quest, as well as the Mercury Cougar, Ford Escort (dissolved into ZX2 model, but still 46,000 sales in 2000) and Lincoln Continental.
Ford's involved in an investor relations lawsuit cos of their supremely odd handling of precious metal prices, they closed Denver-based Fairlane Credit and are trying to sell Hertz's heavy equipment rental divison.
The lost four factories, they issued a stop-sale on the Focus SVT, and they recalled the Escape / Tribute five (!) times. They sold Kwik-fit, an English parts chain, and--check it out--JUST LOST WOLFGANG REITZLE!!! OH NO! Head of Premier Auto Group. Worst of all is the statistics:
2001: FORD LOST $6.8 BILLION
2001: LINCOLN MERCURY LOST $1.1 BILLION
2001: LAND ROVER LOST $250 MILLION
They've cut 35,600 jobs (600 new ones in Mexico), too. And Quarter one 2002, they lost $800 million!!!!
Stock price 52-weeks ago: $31.42
Stock price now: $17.01
Ha! Die, Ford. We'll see you. Of course, until the government bails 'em out!
Meanwhile, they just cut the Mercury Villager and Nissan Quest, as well as the Mercury Cougar, Ford Escort (dissolved into ZX2 model, but still 46,000 sales in 2000) and Lincoln Continental.
Ford's involved in an investor relations lawsuit cos of their supremely odd handling of precious metal prices, they closed Denver-based Fairlane Credit and are trying to sell Hertz's heavy equipment rental divison.
The lost four factories, they issued a stop-sale on the Focus SVT, and they recalled the Escape / Tribute five (!) times. They sold Kwik-fit, an English parts chain, and--check it out--JUST LOST WOLFGANG REITZLE!!! OH NO! Head of Premier Auto Group. Worst of all is the statistics:
2001: FORD LOST $6.8 BILLION
2001: LINCOLN MERCURY LOST $1.1 BILLION
2001: LAND ROVER LOST $250 MILLION
They've cut 35,600 jobs (600 new ones in Mexico), too. And Quarter one 2002, they lost $800 million!!!!
Stock price 52-weeks ago: $31.42
Stock price now: $17.01
Ha! Die, Ford. We'll see you. Of course, until the government bails 'em out!
I think you'll find Sertsa mentioned that in post 8 - as he correctly identified GM has a 20% interest in Fuji Heavy Industries which owns Subaru.
I must say as a proud Liberty/Legacy owner that the prospect of the Liberty/Legacy sharing a platform with the Vectra (and yup, had one of those too - nice car but even close to the quality of the Liberty/Legacy) is frankly upsetting.
It's okay for the Vectra to share a platform with the Saab 9-3. I don't care about those.
